Skip to comments.IPR Interview: Virgil Goode Makes His Case to Ron Paul Supporters (And Principled Conservatives)
Posted on 05/30/2012 9:24:08 PM PDT by xzins
Freelance writer Peter Gemma (cf. http://www.thesocialcontract.com/artman2/publish/tsc_22_3/tsc_22_3_gemma.shtml and http://www.quarterly-review.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/QRGemma.pdf) talked policy and politics with Virgil Goode, the presidential nominee of the Constitution Party. Goode, who received his J.D. from the University of Virginia School of Law, served in the Virginia Army National Guard (1969-1975), as a member of the Virginia Senate (1973-1997), and in the U.S. House of Representatives (1996-2008). Gemma was acting a special corespondent for Independent Political Report.
IPR: Thanks Congressman for taking time off the campaign trail to talk with the Independent Political Report. Whats the latest news from the front lines?
Goode: We just got back from gathering signatures in Delaware for ballot qualification. Its a small number in total that we need; about 600. However, those who wish to see our name on the ballot must change their registration. Believe it or not, the county registrar of voters actually calls people to say are you sure you want to change party your affiliation? We have to be triple sure petition signers understand the process.
IPR: Whats next on the roll call of states that you are targeting for ballot access?
Goode: Well, of course Im working hard here in Virginia to get the Constitution Party on the ballot. Even this far from November and without any serious campaigning, political surveys show that were pulling five percent of the vote. We need 10,000 names on our petitions, which means were working overtime to get 18,000-20,000 signatures to be sure we cover the usual disqualification ratio.
New York is a big challenge: we must have 15,000 signaturesthat means securing 25,000-30,000 names. Thats quite a hurdle, but the good news is that although there is a small minimum number needed in each county, the preponderance of the names can be collected anywherein other words in areas where we have the most volunteers.
Weve also set our sights on California where the American Independent Party, which is not affiliated with the Constitution Party, already has a line on the ballot. Their state convention is slated for August and I will be there for a few days talking with party leaders and grassroots activists about having the AIP endorse the Virgil Goode-Jim Clymer ticket. California is among several states well be visiting on a tour of the West including Utah, Wyoming, and Nevada.
Overall, Im, hoping the Constitution Party ticket will be an option for voters in 40 states, even if in some cases Goode-Clymer are listed as Independents because party qualification is so difficult. But let me add this as a disclaimer: we have or plan to have lawsuits challenging unfair rules for 3rd parties in several states. Georgia is in the works right now.
IPR: Its likely Ron Paul will not be endorsing 3rd party candidates this year as he has done in the past. His campaign has flatly ruled out any support for the Libertarian party nominee, and many political observers see Congressman Pauls ultimate goal as building a Republican base for his son, Senator Rand Paul, to run a national campaign in 2016. In the meantime, millions of Ron Paul supporters are up for grabs come November. What will you do to reach out to them?
Goode: Ron Paul has been a friend from my first days in Congress. I learned a lot as a member of his Liberty Caucus in the House. I understand his interests in his sons viability as a presidential candidate, but Im always an optimist: Id welcome Rons support. However, youre right Peterwe should plan to face reality and capture the Ron Paul constituency on our own. Just look at the issues Ron has run on: audit the Fed, the gold standard, and a non-interventionist foreign policy. Thats our platform! Campaigning on the issues that matter most to those who believe in the Constitution will resonate with Ron Paul supporters. I think we might just pay a visit to Tampa during the Republican Party convention and talk with some of Ron Pauls best organizers and grass roots leaders. When the Republicans crown Mitt Romney, well be right there recruiting constitutionalists to our banner.
IPR: Lets talk about some issues that would appeal to Ron Paul voters, starting with what youve just mentioned.
Goode: Its clear we must reverse the Nixon administrations decision of taking our currency off the gold standard. Just think of how reliable the dollar would be today if it were backed by gold, protecting citizens from hyperinflation and other economic catastrophes caused by government manipulations.
Regarding the Federal Reserve, they have put us trillions in debt because of bailouts and loans here and abroad. Thats with help from their allies in Congress and the U.S. Treasury of course. The Fed refuses to disclose the details of its so-called emergency lending. This kind of secrecy must stop. I fully support the Constitution Partys language addressing this issue. We specifically call for a monetary system as spelled out in Article 1, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution. The voluntary choice of using of silver and/or gold in individual states, such as legislation just considered in Virginia, is something I think should be part of our new emphasis on states rights.
As far as a non-interventionist foreign policy goes, let me say this to begin with: Ive learned a lot in my years as a member of the Executive Committee of the Constitution Party. Some votes I cast in Congress were not well matched with Constitutional principles. I oppose the Patriot Act provisions and the NDAA [National Defense Authorization Act] that trample on the Constitutional rights of U.S. citizens. I do not believe we should be involved in wars that have not been declared by Congress as specifically provided in the U.S. Constitution, so we must come home from Afghanistan. And I dont think we can affordnor is it strategically necessaryto have military bases all over the world. We owe too much money to underwrite the stationing of so many troops all around the world. Finally, I am against placing our armed forces under United Nations command.
IPR: Can you address some domestic issues?
Goode: Let me just add one thing about the military. Of course I want the U.S. military to be the strongest and have the cutting edge weaponry necessary to keep us number one in the world. That does not mean however, that the Defense Department automatically gets all the monies it wantswhich is always more than its budget the previous year. America is broke. We must balance the budget immediately which means every aspect of government spending must be assessed, cut back, or cut out. In the Goode administration, the Defense Department is on that list.
The children of illegal aliens are now granted automatic citizenship. Thats wrong and must be addressed right away. This is central to my opposition to granting amnesty for any and all illegal aliens. And I go a step further: legal immigration must be cut back tooAmericans with talent and experience must be put to work first before we import foreign job takers.
When I was in the Virginia Senate, I co-sponsored a bill urging our congressional delegation to vote against NAFTA. Its bad for business and a challenge to Americas sovereignty. Our trade surplus with Mexico is now a trade deficit. When I was in Congress, I co-sponsored legislation to repeal NAFTA. These free trade treaties are exporting U.S. manufacturing jobs overseas. In my area of Virginia we were once known as the sweatshirt capital of the world but not nowthe textile industry all across America is suffering because of NAFTA and similar treaties.
I was the co-chair of the Second Amendment Caucus during part of my tenure in Congress and received A ratings from National Right to Life, the NRA, Gun Owners of America, the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), as well as the Christian Coalition on family issues.
IPR: Finally, why didnt you run for re-election to Congress? You always had a strong support baseelected and re-elected as a Democrat, Independent, and Republicanand you lost by just a few hundred votes as part of the Obama landslide in your area of Virginia.
Goode: Id be a very lonely voice in the wilderness, and the establishment parties wouldnt give me much leeway to pursue a constitutionalist agenda. Heres an example of how things work in Congress. Along with Walter Jones [R-NC] I was among a very few Republicans opposed to a free trade treatythe House Republican leadership really put the pressure on us to change positions but we refused to go along. Now you know that every Congressman gets certain monies allotted to their districts from the federal gas tax to be used for road and transportation projects. The funding recommendations go through the House leadership. I suppose it was just a coincidence, but that year the districts Walter and I represented received half of the anticipated allocation. I had several such coincidences when I was in Congress.
I want to take our Constitution Party message across the nationmore people are ready to listen to it than ever before. The Ron Paul supporters, the Tea Party movement, home schoolers, and so many constituencies will vote for the Constitution Party if we give them the chance. Thats why were working hard to get ballot access. Jim Clymer did so well in Pennsylvania running for U.S. Senator in 2004: he received over 200,000 votes! Now hes organizing people to get us on the ballot for the 2012 presidential campaign. Of course we are already on the ballot in many states, like yours in Florida. Thats our starting point, but weve got quite a challenge ahead. My work with the leadership and the grass roots activists of the Constitution Party has convinced me that only with an issues-oriented campaignas opposed to the slick establishment candidateswe will make history.
IPR: I appreciate your time Congressman.
Goode: Thank you Peter and the Independent Political Report for the opportunity to say whats on my mind.
Part of the problem, I think, is the 12th Amendment which changed the way President and Vice President are chosen.
The founders may have been brilliant, but I think they screwed up with the 12th. Having the VP be the runner-up for the Presidency meant that two very different outlooks (parties) could "have their say", so to speak.
I think that system would allow people to vote more in-line w/ their conscience than "in the interest of practicality." (someone once said that in a compromise between good and evil, good always looses.)
Just one month ago Romney announced his support for gay couples. At the same time he announced his belief that a state should be able to force gay adoption on its citizens.
How exactly is that not a leftist agenda designed to overwhelm the republic?
At least the BBC is honest. Just yesterday they called Mittens a “Liberal republican” and stated that his candidacy is a sign that the GOP is trying to move away from the “extreme right”.
If you want Ubama to win, good for you.
>How principled is a principled conservatism that gives us four more years of a Moslem-mole President whose goal is to overwhelm the Republic?
It’s pretty easy to understand. Some of us want to vote for a candidate that shares our values. Goode shares our values.
These doomsday hyperboles you ABO people keep throwing out won’t do a damn thing to change our minds. And if you’re thinking Mitt Romney is going to fix Obama’s mess, you’re sorely mistaken. There’s LESS chance of disaster under a lame-duck Obama than there is with MR and a willing Republican House that will vote for ANYTHING he proposes.
>So how exactly would you categorize a politician who has done the following?:
1. Implemented Socialized medicine with a $50 dollar Abortion
2. Implemented an “Assault” weapons ban
3. Supported the Brady Bill
4. Raised taxes/fees by $700 million
5. Whole-heartedly supported Abortion while Governor, and even after his supposed Pro-Life conversion was still nominating extreme Pro-Abortion judges.
6. Supported and forced Gay Adoption. He still supports Gay Adoption.
7. Almost implemented a Carbon cap-and-trade plan, only backing off at the last minute when he realized the political winds had changed and he was running for President.
8. Supported Planned Parenthood.
9. Nominated 27 out of 36 judges who were radical, left-wing, Progressive Liberals.
10. Supported/Supports Amnesty for Illegal Aliens.
11. Believes States forcing people to buy Health Insurance is constitutionally correct.
12. Is Ok with Homos in Scouts.
13. Supported TARP and Auto Bailouts.
14. Supported McCain-Kennedy (Amnesty for Illegal Aliens)
15. Is OK with Homos in Military.
GAME. SET. MATCH.
Earlier he wrote to Jim Robinson:
To: Jim Robinson
Cain is filling the vacuum Sarah left behind. He's going to have to do.
The alternative is Myth, who is the same thing as Ubama.
10 posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2011 4:08:56 PM by E. Pluribus Unum ("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them." --Ronald Reagan)
>I’m reminded of the 1992 Presidential Election. Ross Perot, seeing widespread dissatisfaction with George Bush I, entered the race as a common sense conservative. He got 18.9% of the popular vote against Bush, from people who wanted to punish Bush for violating his “read my lips, no new taxes” pledge.
The net result was that Bill Clinton won in an electoral landslide, while getting just 43% of the popular vote.
The lesson to learn here: STOP GIVING US RINO CANDIDATES OR YOU WILL LOSE TO A DEMOCRAT.
Maybe we could get the BBC to buy NBC.
They only need one consonant and don’t have to buy a vowel. :>)
I don’t think our disagreement is on what is moral or that all morality, truth and goodness is from God. We strive to discern the will of God as He gives us the grace to do so.
We disagree on what actions that we take are moral or not, less moral or more moral.
I believe, and think you would agree, that acting in good conscience and with principles requires us to evaluate the results of our actions. In my discernment the action you propose result in greater harm, have less value in moral terms, than the action I have chosen. IOW, they are less conforming to the will of God and the absolute values we share.
This is where we disagree.
Thanks for your reply.
Just one month ago Romney said he supports gay couples adopting children.
1. If you were to guess, would you be more likely to find that position in: A. “a liberal handbook” or B. “a conservative handbook”?
Don’t sweat this one, you have a 50/50 chance of getting it right?
2. Again, allowing guessing, would you more likely conclude that “gay couples adopting children” is: A. In stark contrast to thousands of years of moral philosophy, or B. Always and everywhere an accepted practice?
I have also made this easy, giving a 50/50 chance of getting it right.
How did you score on the test?
Let's look at the WHOLE story, however.
In June and early July 1992, Perot was consistently polling in the low 40s, meaning he was leading.
Then he started to go crazy, making all kinds of accusations against the other candidates (esp. Bush I). Additionally, he made a number of tactical errors in his campaign that were the result of his trying to micromanage everything and not letting his campaign managers do their job. As well, he made an extremely poor choice in his VP running mate (nothing against Admiral Stockwell, but he did come off as being out to lunch, esp. in debates) that turned a lot of folks off. Then, he ended up dropping out of the race while accusing Bush and the Republicans of plotting to disrupt his daughter's wedding. In short, Perot more or less blew a fuse and went crazy around mid-to-late July.
He then got back into the race in early October, after having pulled all of these stunts and basically revealing himself to be a whackjob to the country.
So THIS is the context for Perot's 19% finish.
Really, the take home message is not that Perot only got 19%, but that he actually still managed to get 19%, despite it all.
Chances are, if he'd stayed in the race and not started seeing little green men on his front lawn, history books would probably be talking about President Perot (I-TX, 1993-2001).
Sad thing is that I'm not sure that's true - and I'm no fan of the Crazy Uncle.
Having said that, he's the ONLY person in the world standing between us and a 2nd term. So... I'm ABO till the end. We can't afford otherwise.
I'm not going to pick one turd because it stinks a little less than the other. You accuse another of hyperbole, yet you engage in the same thing in support of Romney. The only reasons any Romney supporters ever come up with are that "he's not as bad as Obama" or "Obama is going to destroy our nation." Can you name a President who had major accomplishments in his second term? Lame-duckness hits hard in the second term. While I don't want another Obama term, I'm not living in terror of it, either.
Whether it is Obama's second term or Romney's first, this nation has four bleak years in front of it.
I think Mitt Romney needs to drop out and stop stealing votes from Goode.
He absolutely wants Obama to win. He’s already posted a thread saying, “Vote for Obama”. This Virgil Goode crap is a total dodge. None of these “principled conservatives” are real.
At least you admit it.
Hey, anybody who's good enough for Soros...like mitt...
One of the costs of standing on principles is being ridiculed by small-minded people. I'm sure that xzins isn't concerned about your criticism, either. Neither of us answer to you.
Deb, the good news with your position is that if your "conservatism" is flexible enough to vote for Romney, you'll never face the dilemma of having to say NO to candidate because he or she is too liberal.