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China condemns U.S. gun ownership as human rights violation
Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 29 May, 2012 | David Codrea

Posted on 05/31/2012 12:04:56 AM PDT by marktwain

A report issued by the State Council Information Office of the People's Republic of China has included U.S. gun ownership among a list of human rights violations, Law Enforcement Examiner Jim Kouri reported yesterday. "The Human Rights Record of the United States in 2011" was published last Friday on the PRC’s Consulate General in New York website.

“The United States prioritizes the right to keep and bear arms over the protection of citizens' lives and personal security and exercises lax firearm possession control, causing rampant gun ownership,” the report claims. “The U.S. people hold between 35 percent and 50 percent of the world' s civilian-owned guns, with every 100 people having 90 guns [and] 47 percent of American adults reported that they had a gun.”

The conclusion that gun bans will result in enhanced protection of lives and personal security flies in the face of both the American and Chinese experience. Predictably, the report presents many of the same cherry-picked arguments used by “leading” U.S. and international “gun control” organizations that totally ignore the protective benefits of arms in private hands. And, as typical with advocates of a centralized monopoly of violence, Chinese-style genocide, which resulted in government-caused deaths of unknown tens of millions of defenseless human beings in the 20th Century, and the current brutal occupation and tyrannical suppression of Tibetan sovereignty, is left unacknowledged. Left unsaid is the inconvenient truth that rendering captive populations unable to resist makes such monstrous crimes against humanity not only possible, but inevitable.

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KEYWORDS: arms; banglist; china; constitution; rights
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Many American "Progressives" think that China has a better system of governance than the United States, because the state has more power and is not hobbled by Constitutional restrictions.
1 posted on 05/31/2012 12:05:17 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Dear China:

Molon Labe

Hugs and kisses,

The USA


2 posted on 05/31/2012 12:10:21 AM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: marktwain

Hey.

China.

Eat.

My.

Shorts.


3 posted on 05/31/2012 12:15:48 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: marktwain

Denying an individual the ability to defend himself or herself is the human rights violation.


4 posted on 05/31/2012 12:17:48 AM PDT by RC one (this space intentionally left blank)
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To: marktwain

5 posted on 05/31/2012 12:19:32 AM PDT by Lazamataz (People who resort to Godwin's Law are just like Hitler.)
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To: marktwain
Then I guess That NRA membership drive for Beijing is off the table.
6 posted on 05/31/2012 12:26:54 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: marktwain
China can 亲亲我的屁股
7 posted on 05/31/2012 12:44:06 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: marktwain
Dear China,
Come and see me, I got some little .223" presents for y'all.
Heck, most of my friends have some little presents for y'all too, some even bigger than mine.

Sincerely
Cajun and swamp pals gift giver club

8 posted on 05/31/2012 12:44:27 AM PDT by The Cajun (Palin, Free Republic, Mark Levin, Newt......Nuff said.)
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To: marktwain

So that’s why democrats everywhere love the Chinese.


9 posted on 05/31/2012 1:11:55 AM PDT by exnavy (May the Lord bless and keep our troops.)
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To: The Cajun

I have this little baby for them:

http://lonestararms.com/configurations

In addition, it has the Tromix Monster Brake and Krebs Combat Sights. It will also have a vertical grip/light.

Musing about whether to get a drum or mag for it.


10 posted on 05/31/2012 1:15:02 AM PDT by Puckster
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To: marktwain

Can we get John Huntsman to translate this message into Mandarin for those of us who like to hear the original ?


11 posted on 05/31/2012 1:17:48 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: marktwain

The PRC restricts property rights, freedom of speech, movement, religion and strictly censors the internet. I have no idea why they would be criticizing the USA.


12 posted on 05/31/2012 1:21:09 AM PDT by moonshot925
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To: Puckster
Dang, with the drum magazine, that sucker could launch a bunch of little welcoming presents :^)
13 posted on 05/31/2012 1:22:12 AM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: The Cajun
I'm in Afghanistan and I haven't had it in my hands yet.

However, my very wife stood in front of the computer, over Skype, and showed me some of the features....she looked so dang cute popping the extend-able stock in and out.

It had to be shipped to a local licensed dealer for pickup and when then saw it they were impressed.

14 posted on 05/31/2012 1:33:25 AM PDT by Puckster
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To: Lazamataz

Beat me to it.

All you need to do is google “China executions images” and you can learn EVERYTHING you need to know about what happens when only government can have guns!


15 posted on 05/31/2012 1:52:08 AM PDT by djf ("There are more old drunkards than old doctors." - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: The Cajun

7.62X39...
30-06...
AND near a thousand .223?

Sounds good to me!


16 posted on 05/31/2012 2:00:03 AM PDT by djf ("There are more old drunkards than old doctors." - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: marktwain
“The U.S. people hold between 35 percent and 50 percent of the world' s civilian-owned guns, with every 100 people having 90 guns [and] 47 percent of American adults reported that they had a gun.”

Alex, I'll take 'Why is the U.S. the only free nation in the world?"

17 posted on 05/31/2012 2:17:18 AM PDT by Eastbound (3-7-77)
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To: djf
Really liked big caliber wheel guns and lever action rifles all my life, but really took a shine to the Glock G17 and Colt AR 15.
Even an old dog can learn new tricks and wonder what took him so long.
18 posted on 05/31/2012 2:19:06 AM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: The Cajun

I have an original Armalite AR-7

When you break it down and store it in the stock, IT FLOATS!

Kinda cool!


19 posted on 05/31/2012 2:26:06 AM PDT by djf ("There are more old drunkards than old doctors." - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: marktwain

They’ve gotta have something to bash us for.


20 posted on 05/31/2012 2:26:05 AM PDT by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: Puckster

Just looking, I got damp and swoony.


21 posted on 05/31/2012 2:32:49 AM PDT by Gargantua ("All men ARE 'created' equal--but 21 years later... well, 'nuff said...")
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To: marktwain
China can kiss my GRITS.
You want my guns? Come and get them.
I am buying a lot of precious metals. . . .
No not Gold. . . . . Lead, Brass & Copper. I also have them on top of gun powder that you invented.
THANKS, THE DEACON
22 posted on 05/31/2012 2:49:48 AM PDT by DeaconRed (My vote in Nov will be dictated by my extreme hatred for ZERO and what he is doing to our country.)
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To: Eastbound

90 guns for every 100 people? Come on folks, we can do better than that! Needs to be closer to 100 for every 9 people. Remember GUNS spelled backwards is SNUG.


23 posted on 05/31/2012 3:17:10 AM PDT by EandH Dad (sleeping giants wake up REALLY grumpy)
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To: marktwain
"Causing rampant gun ownership"...

Yeah. (heh heh heh heh heh heh)

24 posted on 05/31/2012 3:18:08 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy

The ChiComs need to look at that quote by Admiral Yamamoto about the prospect of invading America and realize that

“There IS a rifle behind every blade of grass!”

(And with cool focused eyes behind each one.)


25 posted on 05/31/2012 3:27:01 AM PDT by elcid1970 (Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind.")
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To: marktwain

They should stop meddling in our internal affairs.


26 posted on 05/31/2012 3:32:34 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("You forget, it isn't who you claim, but instead, who claims you. We don't claim you!")
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To: marktwain
Though it is disputed whether he ever uttered this warning, perhaps the Chicoms have taken what Japanese General Yamamoto is said to have uttered, to heart?:

"You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass."

Moreover, most (including many who have served)--and though some of us who did are getting a little long in the tooth--know how to use them and would not hesitate to do so, which is what scares the bejeezus out of any hostile force who would think twice about trying to conquer our Great Republic, which is what drives them "Nuts."

27 posted on 05/31/2012 3:44:15 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet (l)
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To: marktwain

This is huge! China admits that people have rights.


28 posted on 05/31/2012 3:45:06 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: elcid1970
The ChiComs need to look at that quote by Admiral Yamamoto about the prospect of invading America and realize that

“There IS a rifle behind every blade of grass!”

Beat me to it. Missed your post.

Great minds and all that rot.....lol

29 posted on 05/31/2012 3:46:25 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet (l)
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To: marktwain
Totalitarian states like Red China always feel threatened by free men owning firearms.

Totalitarian states demand that all power emanate from the state; under such a creed, men have no rights, just enumerated permissions that may be granted or rescinded at the whim of the state.

Firearms are "liberty's teeth."

30 posted on 05/31/2012 3:48:53 AM PDT by snowsislander (Please, America, no more dog-eating Kenyan cokeheads in the Oval Office.)
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To: marktwain
Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.
--Mao Zedong, "Problems of War and Strategy" (November 6, 1938), Selected Works, Vol. II, p. 224.
31 posted on 05/31/2012 3:50:28 AM PDT by samtheman (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2888480/posts?page=2#2)
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To: marktwain

Dear China,

Remember, there is one behind every bush.

Stay on your side of the Pacific.


32 posted on 05/31/2012 3:56:19 AM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. Be Andrew Breitbart.)
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To: The Cajun

It was the reverse for me. Son gave me a Glock 19 decades ago for my birthday. Then I mushroomed with more Glocks, more Berettas, more-more 1911s and variants, AR-15s, AK-47 semis, Garands, Carbines, 03s, even a 1918 Winchester US-Enfield variant. Shotguns and other sundry assortments.

Then about 10 years ago I went old school - revolvers, lever action carbines, etc. Hog wild. To me they are better crafted if you go Ruger, S&W, and even the better Ubertis....its just an elegance that is different from today’s polymer/aluminum composites.


33 posted on 05/31/2012 4:03:44 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: snowsislander

“Firearms are “liberty’s teeth.”

Preventing private ownership of arms is the primary enabler of fascism.

Nazis and communists are experts in using gun control to implement genocidal mass murder.

Projection of flaws upon others is the main game of evil nefarious people.


34 posted on 05/31/2012 4:07:37 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: marktwain

Comedy gold coming from a nation that runs mobile organ harvesting vans.


35 posted on 05/31/2012 4:13:43 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: marktwain; SWAMPSNIPER; The Cajun; Lazamataz
Many American "Progressives" think that China has a better system of governance than the United States, because the state has more power and is not hobbled by Constitutional restrictions

A number of people on this thread seem to be concerned about the Chinese wanting to strip us of our rights. The Chinese are NOT the main threat.

It's people like 0, Hillary Clinton, upChuck Schumer, Carolyn McCarthy, Jim Moran, Michael Bloomberg, etc. who are the immediate threat. And WHY are they a threat? It's because they actually have the power to impose unconstitutional laws on us. And yet even these wannabe tyrants are not the fundamental problem. They're just the symptom.

The real problem is the people who vote for them. Their supporters are not free. They're dependent on government in one fashion or another. They don't want to be free and they REALLY don't want the rest of us to be free. They are in many cases either direct parasites receiving wealth stolen from the productive citizens by their allies in government as welfare or indirect parasites - government employees, contractors, and specially protected industries like Archer Daniels Midlands and other accomplices in the ethanol fraud. Some statists simply substituted the worship of government for the worship of God in their lives. All of them have a vested interest in reducing freedom because after all they want nothing to interfere with the steady flow of cash from you pocket to theirs via the government and they want nothing to interfere with government's power over everyone's lives.

36 posted on 05/31/2012 4:18:45 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

Heh, heh, I’m getting a little long in the tooth myself (long in the belt loops too, #$&%!!) so I do like older family small arms: wheelguns & bolt action rifles, all made of wood & blue steel of course. But I last qualified with the M-16A2 just before turning age 62 (warrant officers get to hang around forever) and I note with delight that there’s an unbelievable variety of really high-tech rifles & handguns out there with new designs appearing daily it seems. With target acquisition systems to match.

What this means IMO is that America (us bitter clingers anyway) is arming up & ammo-ing up, and there’s not much the Red Chinese or Emperor Obama or even Mayor Bloomberg can do about it except spit & fume. Every issue of the Cheaper Than Dirt catalog just warms my heart!

Arms proliferation? Dig it, celebrate it!

;^)


37 posted on 05/31/2012 4:20:29 AM PDT by elcid1970 (Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind.")
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To: djf

I have a Charter Arms AR-7 and it jams terribly. Yours have that problem? CCI Stingers seem to be the only thing that works and even then it isn’t 100%.


38 posted on 05/31/2012 4:36:21 AM PDT by MachIV
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To: marktwain
I guess China would be considered to be complicit in this "human rights violation", what with all the SKS rifles, semi-auto AK-47 variants and various PolyTech and Norinco products, such as knock-offs of the Colt 1911 and M1 Garand, that they shipped here.

Clinton may have stopped that particular trade, but we've still got that hardware here. Makes a nice "backup" to the higher-quality stuff.

39 posted on 05/31/2012 4:37:38 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: marktwain

There is little doubt that China, as with many Progressives, have NO real frakin’ clue what “human rights” are, especially those God and natural law.


40 posted on 05/31/2012 4:42:24 AM PDT by cranked
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To: marktwain

Chinese just trying to figure out how to take over a country whose citizens are armed that’s all.


41 posted on 05/31/2012 4:49:35 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: marktwain

Most gubmints are afraid to allow their citizens to posess firearms cause they know when gub mints get too pushy the citizens may come for them.
Ya hear me U.S. federal gub mint???
Ya hear me State gub mint?
You hear me local gub mint?


42 posted on 05/31/2012 5:06:25 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: from occupied ga

What you said.


43 posted on 05/31/2012 5:15:00 AM PDT by AlligatorEyes (Iactura paucourm serva multos)
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To: All
47 percent of American adults reported that they had a gun.”

China and the Violence Policy Center need to coordinate better. This 47 percent figure undercuts the VPC contention that the number of gun owning Americans is falling.

44 posted on 05/31/2012 5:22:46 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: snowsislander
Totalitarian states like Red China always feel threatened by free men owning firearms.

Totalitarian states like Red China New York, Massachusetts, New Jersey, the current federal government, etc. always feel threatened by free men owning firearms.

There fixed it.

45 posted on 05/31/2012 5:39:38 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Lazamataz

Bump to post to facebook later


46 posted on 05/31/2012 6:39:39 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: hattend; PhilDragoo
Credit: PhilDragoo

Post this one if Phil doesn't produce a revised edition, but we've asked him for some light changes...

47 posted on 05/31/2012 7:10:08 AM PDT by Lazamataz (People who resort to Godwin's Law are just like Hitler.)
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To: snowsislander
"Totalitarian states demand that all power emanate from the state; under such a creed, men have no rights, just enumerated permissions that may be granted or rescinded at the whim of the state."

The Fed beat the states to it when they passed the 14th Amendment. But you'll have to admit that being granted permission beats having no rights at all, eh?

48 posted on 05/31/2012 7:25:40 AM PDT by Eastbound (3-7-77)
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To: Puckster
I had Lone Star Arms pegged for a Texas company. Turns out, they are right here in Albuquirky. Gotta support local business.

I just have to think of how to get it past the budget committee.

49 posted on 05/31/2012 7:55:36 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmitt in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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To: marktwain
The United States prioritizes the right to keep and bear arms over the protection of citizens' lives and personal security

Excuse me, but what do you think is protecting our lives and maintaining our personal security?

50 posted on 05/31/2012 8:17:24 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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