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Detroit: From Motor City to Tech City?
CNBC video ^ | 30 May 2012 | brian shactman

Posted on 05/31/2012 7:56:25 AM PDT by shove_it

...Detroit is known for few things, right? the auto industry. it's the first city to pave a road in america. it's known for motown and of course the birthplace of ice cream soda. who doesn't know that? now it wants to be known for something else, technology. brian shactman is there. all right. brian, first off, what is -- it is true. the first news radio -- i didn't know that. i wanted to throw that out there. and good hockey. i wanted to throw it out to you, what exactly technologywise is happening in the motor city. well, brian, actually i think two words you used are perfect. actually happening. it's not on some white board or city planning, they're doing something. this building right here was empty a year ago. now it has three venture capitalist firms inside with a slew of technology start-ups. the interesting thing is there's a lot of young people ...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Technical; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: brianshactman; detroit; detroitrockcity; michigan
A flicker of light in MoTown, hopefully? (sigh).
1 posted on 05/31/2012 7:56:28 AM PDT by shove_it
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To: shove_it

No. That flicker is the street lights being turned off.


2 posted on 05/31/2012 7:57:25 AM PDT by DManA
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To: shove_it; cripplecreek

Mich ping?


3 posted on 05/31/2012 7:57:35 AM PDT by shove_it (just undo it)
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To: shove_it

Yeah, right. That highly educated, highly motivated, non-union workforce in Detroit will fit right in with hi-tech.


4 posted on 05/31/2012 8:00:04 AM PDT by Astronaut
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To: shove_it
In a City where 50+% of the population is illiterate, What could go wrong?
5 posted on 05/31/2012 8:02:45 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: shove_it

When I was in Detroit last January I didn’t see much in the way of “tech”.My God,80% of the *streetlights* didn’t work.Even Dar Es Salaam has functioning street lights.


6 posted on 05/31/2012 8:03:33 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Julia: another casualty of the "War on Poverty")
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To: Astronaut

Good luck uprooting VLSI logic designers and programmers from Los Gatos and Sunnyvale and telling them to relocate to one of the most miserable and dangerous places in the US.


7 posted on 05/31/2012 8:04:48 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: shove_it

Macomb County Executive Mark Hackel (D), a former Sheriff, has been making claims that Macomb County is on track to become “the defense capitol of the world”...

Macomb County is immediately north and east of Detroit with its southern boundary at 8 Mile Road.

Detroit is Detroit and that’s all it is any more.

Macomb County does have its history of being a huge part of the Arsenal of Democracy (US Army) but it is nowhere near to ever being the “defense capitol of the world”.


8 posted on 05/31/2012 8:05:50 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: shove_it

Methinks there is a basic problem with the culture of the remaining Detroit population.

Teaching them to read might be a good start.

After that, teaching them how to locate and defumigate (and do rude, awful things to) all liberals will be the next logical step.

Then - they might just have a chance.


9 posted on 05/31/2012 8:11:14 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Springman; sergeantdave; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; ...
Personally I don't see tech as being the salvation of Detroit or America. Obviously any jobs help but America needs to be a nation of diggers, drillers, builders and makers.

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10 posted on 05/31/2012 8:12:20 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: shove_it

This is wishful thinking being reported as fact.

The states that are picking up hi-tech jobs are ones like Texas and Utah. Ones that have generally friendly business environments.

Someone in Detroit decided to start an advertising campaign to attract hi-tech business, and this is just ad spin. The same as Michigan tried to get the movie business jump-started in the state.

California is losing hi-tech business to other states, but I guran-damn-tee you that nobody is moving their IT business from California to Detroit.


11 posted on 05/31/2012 8:13:26 AM PDT by Brookhaven (Don't mistake my vote for Romney as a vote FOR Romney, it's a vote against Obama.)
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To: shove_it

Nah...Here’s a Green AND Tech company (who received tons of Fed $) that’s on it’s way out:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2889824/posts?page=8#8


12 posted on 05/31/2012 8:17:02 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (We may die, but DISCO LIVES FOREVER!!!)
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To: shove_it

bribing start ups to set up shop in an unfavorable environment almost never works. the successful ones leave as soon as they are able, the ones that fail add to the original problem, and the ones that get mugged by their fellow detroit citizens close their doors.


13 posted on 05/31/2012 8:19:00 AM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: GOPsterinMA
That company is in Livonia, real close to where I grew up on the west side of Detroit. It was a great place to live in the 1940s thru the mid 60s but I left for good in 1972 and have returned only briefly for funerals of relatives and friends. What the democrats have done to that great city is heartbreaking.
14 posted on 05/31/2012 8:35:06 AM PDT by shove_it (just undo it)
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To: shove_it

What the democrats have done to that great city is heartbreaking.

Soon, democrats will do that to the rest of the U.S.A.

I hate Obama.


15 posted on 05/31/2012 8:39:56 AM PDT by Democrat_media (China is destroying all our jobs and manufacturing ability. China makes everything.)
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To: shove_it

“What the democrats have done to that great city is heartbreaking.”

I’m sorry to hear that.

Sounds like the M.O. of Rats all over the country. And Obama’s goal is to turn the entire USA into Detroit.


16 posted on 05/31/2012 8:40:27 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (We may die, but DISCO LIVES FOREVER!!!)
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To: Brookhaven

It is so irritating to keep reading about this national obsession to try to fix that dump.

We have, here in west Michigan, some of the most dynamic, beautiful, educated, and clean cities in the state, and instead of bringing industries here where we will appreciate them, they try to shoe-horn them into the MegaGhetto like that is the only thing that was wrong with Detroit.

What fool would put their company in a city run by Obama’s thug friends, that is broke and falling apart? You might as well put it in Ontario if the region is that great.


17 posted on 05/31/2012 9:00:04 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (If case you are wondering, I'm STILL supporting Newt.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

True, cut off the money to most American cities and Detroit will look like a paradise in comparison. After all, look at the debt that Chicago or LA is running.


18 posted on 05/31/2012 9:00:53 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: shove_it

Looking at the old photos of Detroit is enough to make a person turn white at the extreme changes.

Detroit almost looked like a European city in the early 20th century.


19 posted on 05/31/2012 9:04:36 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (If case you are wondering, I'm STILL supporting Newt.)
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To: VanDeKoik

That’s where my dad’s side of the family was until shortly before the riots. They worked for Ford, in the corporate office and on the line. Good jobs and excellent quality of life.
Then, something happened.


20 posted on 05/31/2012 9:10:08 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: cripplecreek

You’re right - the key is the money!!!


21 posted on 05/31/2012 9:17:24 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (We may die, but DISCO LIVES FOREVER!!!)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Cut off the money to Chicago and they’ll be smelling the smoke all the way to Detroit.

The simple fact is that most American cities with a few exceptions take far more revenue than they generate. I live one county west of Ann Arbor and we’re a constant target of derision. They talk about us ignern’t hillbillies in “Jacksatucky” county while bragging that they have the lowest unemployment rate in the state. What they don’t say is that they also have the highest percentage of taxpayer funded jobs. Kalamazoo is similar.

If you gave me the choice of vaporizing Detroit or Ann Arbor, Detroiters could sleep easy. Detroit may be a parasite but its an indifferent parasite. Ann Arbor is an angry, self righteous, demanding parasite.


22 posted on 05/31/2012 9:31:43 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Brookhaven

I think “Detroit” is misleading - however it is true for some of the surrounding cities (Troy, Sterling Heights, Ann Arbor, etc). There’s lots of tech companies; BAE, General Dynamics, MAG/Automation, Magneti Marelli, Harman, Valeo, big 3 (of course), Porsche...list goes on.

I live around here and don’t worry too much about finding another job.


23 posted on 05/31/2012 9:33:25 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: cripplecreek

Ann Arbor is the liberal, academic mecca, right? That’s a commonality of the “beautiful people” areas - they think they poop cinnamon buns.

“The simple fact is that most American cities with a few exceptions take far more revenue than they generate.”

Not only that, but, most major cities in the US have Rat mayors...which explains the mess they’re in.

Follow the dollar$...


24 posted on 05/31/2012 9:55:22 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (We may die, but DISCO LIVES FOREVER!!!)
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To: cripplecreek
"America needs to be a nation of diggers, drillers, builders and makers"

couldn't agree with you more, but this nation doesn't respect hard working people....we think those in suits who work 9-5 are the epitome of "work"....

sometimes even on FR, people who are not professionals are disrespected....

I actually think the diggers, the drillers, the builders and the makers are the BEST people....

25 posted on 05/31/2012 10:03:57 AM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry
We need the techies but the simple fact is that the techies don't do this.

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Or build these.

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26 posted on 05/31/2012 10:17:28 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: VanDeKoik
Looking at the old photos of Detroit is enough to make a person turn white at the extreme changes.

And then once you turn white you move out of Detroit.

27 posted on 05/31/2012 10:27:09 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: cripplecreek
I lived in Summit Township (right outside Vandercook) for 5 years and loved it. My friends in Texas, where I spent the first 50 years of my life, could not understand it. They think all of Michigan is like Detroit.

I keep telling them that Detroit no more represents Michigan than Laredo represents Texas. Ann Arbor, Kremlin West, is just like Austin, Berkeley, and Madison. That's the source of the infection.

28 posted on 05/31/2012 10:34:25 AM PDT by jammer
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Then, something happened.

Collectivism and central planning happened.

They thought they could go on forever based on the profits of the Big 3, but the product quality suffered, the price was too high, and competition came in and killed them.

29 posted on 05/31/2012 10:34:28 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: jammer
I live just east of Napoleon myself.

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Detroit it ain't.
30 posted on 05/31/2012 10:38:48 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: shove_it

I’ve been recruited by folks from Detroit, but there is no way you are going to get me there. I used to go to Flint on a semi regular bases to do work for GM, most times I puddle jumped directly to Flint... occassionally I’d have to fly into Detroit and drive to Flint... and that drive was the most depressing every time, nothing but abandoned and run down homes on both sides of the highway for miles upon miles.. it literally was like you were driving through a war zone. it was surreal.

Until Detroit stops electing radical liberal and anti-white racist mayors and councilmen, the city has ZERO hope of anything.

When folks are exuming their dead relatives to relocate them elsewhere, you know you’ve reached a new low.

Detroit could recover, but it has to abandon its racist, socialist ways if it wants to do it, and based on the voting record of the city, I see little chance of that.


31 posted on 05/31/2012 10:45:47 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: cherry

I got nothing against blue collar folk, but I’m tired of the attitude that professionals don’t work. I admit I don’t climb up on a roof at 6am and nail in shigles for 8 hours, but my typical work week is easly 60 hours, and that doesn’t include work I do for myself outside of it.

I freely admit, I don’t make a living on my back, I make it off my mind, but a hard worker is a hard worker, regardless of whether they are professional or blue collar. Blue collar does not have the lock on work ethic. I can point out tons of old ex steel mill workers in my town who never worked a hard full day in their lives, before or since the mills closed, just as I can point out professionals who have never worked a hard full day either.

I know if someone in an office works hard, they aren’t beat up by their “buddies” in the parking lot for going over quota and making em look bad after their shift, like the mill workers used to do.

A hard worker is a hard worker, and there are lazy and hard workers in all socio economic strata.


32 posted on 05/31/2012 10:50:31 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

We need both blue and white collar workers and we need to let them settle where they need to be in the numbers they need to be in.

Seems that we’re trying to engineer society in an unnatural anti capitalistic way.

Things like the Hoover dam didn’t get built because someone decided we needed engineers or concrete workers. It was built because there was a need and the engineers and concrete workers provided themselves for the job.


33 posted on 05/31/2012 12:27:35 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: shove_it

One of the most marvelous new inventions is this thingy called a “Shift” key.


34 posted on 05/31/2012 12:35:11 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: cripplecreek

Can’t resist bringing out those old Mackinac Bridge photos, eh? Well, keep ‘em coming, CC.


35 posted on 05/31/2012 12:43:33 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

They’re a symbol of a greater America along with a whole list of other things 50 or more years old.


36 posted on 05/31/2012 12:50:33 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Astronaut

>>Yeah, right. That highly educated, highly motivated, non-union workforce in Detroit will fit right in with hi-tech.<<

Um, there is more to Detroit than Detroit proper. My husband works IT in the “Macomb Incubator” that specializes in government tech work.

My 12 and 14 year old daughters are in Early College and will walk out with one chemical and one electrical engineering degree, respectively.

Not all of the Detroit area is unionized, lazy or stupid.


37 posted on 05/31/2012 5:06:04 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. Obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to sleep)
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To: equaviator

http://www.rave.com/

http://embeddedsystemnews.com/rave-computer-announces-1u-xeon-seaburg-aluminum-short-depth-and-3u-blackford-rugged-rackmount-servers-for-department-of-defense.html

There are a ton of defense contracts being filled in Macomb county. That is ONE company in the 1st incubator. Now there is a second as well.

There is more here than Selfridge.


38 posted on 05/31/2012 5:10:44 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. Obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to sleep)
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To: fuzzylogic

Thank you.
I’m in Macomb county as well.


39 posted on 05/31/2012 5:13:47 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. Obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to sleep)
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To: Cyber Liberty

I don’t compose the articles CL, I just copy and paste ‘em. Click the link and you’ll see.


40 posted on 05/31/2012 5:24:26 PM PDT by shove_it (just undo it)
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To: netmilsmom

Yeah, I know there is more than Selfridge ANGB, TACOM and General Dynamics but as far as having the potential for becoming “the defense capitol of the world”, there probably is not enough potential for adequate infrastructure, facilities and industrially zoned property to handle such a volume of defense business in all of Macomb County.

Hackel is either exaggerating the potential of Macomb County on purpose or he’s ignorant of what it would take for a single county in all of the United States to become the “defense capitol of the world” and in his case, I think it’s a lot of both.

And besides that, it would be extremely unwise to have such a geographical concentration of defense contractors, etc. due to security risks, safety and probable environmental issues.


41 posted on 06/01/2012 4:22:10 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: equaviator

IMHO, the Pentagon is the defense capitol of the world.

If Hackel persists then he should clarify what he means when he says “the defense capitol of the world”.


42 posted on 06/01/2012 4:26:38 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: shove_it

Not complaining about you, shove. Cut & paste is how it’s supposed to be done.

:^)


43 posted on 06/01/2012 5:47:28 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: equaviator

>>And besides that, it would be extremely unwise to have such a geographical concentration of defense contractors, etc. due to security risks...<<

Ooooo, yeah. You’re right about that one.


44 posted on 06/01/2012 7:03:56 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. Obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to sleep)
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