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New Wheels: Is It Better to Lease or Buy?
Townhall.com ^ | May 31, 2012 | Carrie Schwab Pomerantz

Posted on 05/31/2012 8:19:42 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin
leasing a lower cost car could be quite economical, especially only in the short run.
21 posted on 05/31/2012 9:04:20 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Kaslin

I’m pretty sure that every tire manufacture and retailer will require to purchase the wheels. /sarc


22 posted on 05/31/2012 9:05:46 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Durus
Or why not buy a cheap used car, run it into the ground and buy another cheap used car?

Repair costs?

23 posted on 05/31/2012 9:06:22 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Kaslin

Just about every car these days has one or more enthusiast forums.

If you spend a little time there, it’s pretty easy to find the common things that are likely to go wrong or have gone wrong with a model you’re considering. There’s always someone who puts a bunch of mileage or abuse on a car and they get to be first to discover the shortcomings.

Plus, a lot of times, the OEMs quietly fix things and don’t make big announcements about them. Word gets around quickly on the enthusiast boards, along manufacturer service bulletins, and recalls.

With that info in hand, applied to a low-mileage used model, you can make a pretty good guestimate of what’s likely to go wrong, and how much it will cost to fix it. Every car is just a machine, some parts are going to wear out or break sooner than others. It’s just a matter of finding out which ones for that model are the likliest and then determining what the downstream costs will be (if it hasn’t been taken care of already). On a lot of vehicles, some troublesome parts get revised and replaced as people complain to the dealer, but the manufacturer doesn’t necessarily broadcast that they’ll fix it unless it becomes a safety issue.

Expensive parts can be a negotiating tool if you buy from a dealer, maybe to get them to pre-emptively replace a likely future failure part for less than it would cost you later in order to get the sale. This works especially well if there’s a manufacturer service bulletin that you can reference. Or if you’re considering buying a used car warranty, knowing what your costs will be can help you evaluate it better.

With things that commonly break, the aftermarket usually steps in pretty quickly too if you wait a few years until the problem surfaces.


24 posted on 05/31/2012 9:06:40 AM PDT by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!)
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To: Kaslin
Never lease a car.
25 posted on 05/31/2012 9:11:01 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Kaslin

Democrats lease, Republicans own. If someone is a Democrat they are better off wrecking someone else’s property.


26 posted on 05/31/2012 9:11:38 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: Feline_AIDS

My system is to buy a high mileage 2-3 year old car and run it till it dies. I’ve been doing that for over 25 years and have never had a lemon. We’ve never sold a car for over $1,000.

My current car is a 2006 Pontiac Vibe. I bought it in late 2009 with 142,000 miles. I’ll be passing 200,000 next week. Beside gas and oil changes, a set of front brakes is all I’ve done to it.


27 posted on 05/31/2012 9:14:30 AM PDT by cyclotic (People who live within their means are increasingly being forced to pay for people who didn't.)
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To: Nachum
If you can afford it- a VERY inexpensive new car will give you dependable transportation.

Buying new is a good idea if you wait until late summer when dealers are desperate to sell them because they want to make room for next year's model. The benefit over used cars is that you'll likely get 2-3 years with very little maintenance whereas a used car has already gone through that period, as a generality.

In this girl's situation and in the current economy, I would suggest buying used on time (you still want to build credit) in payments that ought to be easily affordable. It should never be a sizable chunk of your monthly income or it is too much.

28 posted on 05/31/2012 9:15:26 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Our economy won't heal until one particular black man is unemployed.)
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To: pgkdan

What’s with the need for a down payment, balloon payments, or costs over normal wear and tear?

Yes, I’m self-employed, but I’ve leased three cars without ever having to pay any of those.


29 posted on 05/31/2012 9:20:26 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Elderberry
I agree.

My son bought an 06 BMW 325i like this one (one owner) yesterday. 90,000 miles on it. Traded in his SUV gas hog. 2 yr. warranty. He brought it over last night. Drives like a dream. Leather and all the goodies. Amazing machine.


30 posted on 05/31/2012 9:31:14 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Kaslin

Buy a two or three year old used car that someone turned in as a lease. Do not buy a used rental car.

Do a little research on Consumer Reports/Edmunds/KBB regarding the best used cars in your price range.

Then drive it until it starts costing you too much in repairs to maintain. This is usually between 100-150K miles depending on the automaker.

Leasing cars is only for businesses that need to have a new car and can right off the business expense on their taxes.


31 posted on 05/31/2012 9:39:28 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: Kaslin
If you have good credit, you might be able to get a bank to lease it to you. Try to get the deal that allows you to declare the residual value.

That way, you don't have to worry about mileage, as long as you consider what the residual value of the car will be after you finish using it, knowing how much mileage you'll put on it.

You then only have to pay interest on the value of the car less the residual.

After the lease expires, you can either buy the car for the residual value or sell it for that and give it to the bank.

Your payments will be about half of what a dealership will charge to lease the car to you.

32 posted on 05/31/2012 9:57:11 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: Nachum

Last car I bought was a two year old Certified Used car.

It had 21k miles on it and was literally immaculate. It was a lease turn-in, so the previous owner took care of it to avoid penalties. Paid just over 20K for it (2K under high book). New, it cost around 30K.

Bumper to bumper warranty to 86k miles (3 year, 36K factory, 5 year /50K Certified Used warranty). At about 25K miles, had a breather valve go bad and made a whistling sound when driving, but otherwise safe to drive. Even though I bought it out of state, the dealer sent out a flatbed and had the car towed it to the local dealer, where the breather was replaced for free.

They’ll even come out and change a tire if I get a flat.

For value and peace of mind, it has been the best car purchase I’ve ever made.


33 posted on 05/31/2012 10:01:06 AM PDT by FLAMING DEATH (Are you better off than you were $4 trillion ago?)
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To: FLAMING DEATH
Last car I bought was a two year old Certified Used car.

Depending on where you are, there aren't a whole lot of car dealers who will make that "certified" deal with the customer. The only one I know of out here are the Mercedes dealerships and you are looking at increased insurance costs IF you manage to find a deal you like.

For a young person starting out, an economy car will still cost less than that $20,000 price you paid and give him a warranty that lasts at least 3 years and sometimes longer depending on the manufacturer. That, along with lower payments, lower gas costs, and less breakdown time make it a better deal for most young people. We have a relative who owned a used car lot and said the same as you. We owned at least 3 used cars and two of them made us crazy.

After the last one, I only have bought new cars and have been happy I have. Especially when something went wrong.

34 posted on 05/31/2012 10:19:19 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Kaslin

Thanks for posting. I am going through this now. My wife totaled her 97 Civic. It was like new inside and out. Havent had collision insurance on it for 6 years so after her accident we just parted the car out.

I drive a 98 Explorer with 160K on it but it is seems to be reliable. So have been looking for a car for her. She drives less than 5K miles a year. She didnt even have to get emissions test. I am disabled and on SS and she is retired.

Been looking at all the options and I did find something interesting. Leasetrader.com. Doin’ my research on it now. I cant make a mistake. We are on very limited income although it is reliable. Looks like another alternative.


35 posted on 05/31/2012 10:28:32 AM PDT by halfright (FAST & FURIOUS! DON'T ALLOW THEM TO DIVERT YOUR ATTENTION.)
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To: 9YearLurker

You’re lucky. I was between careers for a couple of years and worked for a dealership in the leasing department. Those are standard practice.


36 posted on 05/31/2012 10:45:27 AM PDT by pgkdan (ANYBODY BUT OBAMA!)
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To: Liberty Valance

This reminded me of the Web site, http://www.automanagement.com/

Depending on your circumstance, this could be an option.

CA....


37 posted on 05/31/2012 10:47:16 AM PDT by Chances Are (Seems I've found that silly grin again....)
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To: IronJack
But neither make as much sense — financially — as buying used and drving the wheels off.

that's my motto- I rarely give up a car until it has over 200k on it and that's usually either due to it rusted apart or a deer or welfare deadbeat hit me. Even then, if it's safely driveable, I'm doing it.

38 posted on 05/31/2012 11:14:43 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: FastCoyote
I’ve gone retro with a ‘67 Camaro and ‘57 Bel Air and neither have to be smogged every 2 years in the peoples republic of Kalifornia.
39 posted on 05/31/2012 11:47:14 AM PDT by Foolsgold (L I B Lacking in Brains)
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To: Kaslin
Buy an older vehicle that you can work on and maintain yourself.
You can get a good totally rebuilt vehicle that is easy to maintain for less than what a new one would cost.
You can even choose one that gets the mileage you want.
Just look around, and start at Barrett-Jackson Auction Company.
40 posted on 05/31/2012 12:07:35 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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