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Americans Have No Idea How Few Gay People There Are
The Atlantic ^ | May 31, 2012 | Garance Franke-Ruta

Posted on 05/31/2012 12:14:09 PM PDT by C19fan

One in ten. It's the name of the group that puts on the Reel Affirmations gay and lesbian film festival in Washington, D.C., each year. It's the percent popularized by the Kinsey Report as the size of the gay male population. And it's among the most common figures pointed to in popular culture as an estimate of how many people are gay or lesbian.

What percentage of the population is actually gay or lesbian? A lower one than you might think -- and a much, much, much lower one than most Americans believe.

In surveys conducted in 2002 and 2011, pollsters at Gallup found that members of the American public massively overestimated how many people are gay or lesbian. In 2002, a quarter of those surveyed guessed upwards of a quarter of Americans were gay or lesbian (or "homosexual," the third option given). By 2011, that misperception had only grown, with more than a third of those surveyed now guessing that more than 25 percent of Americans are gay or lesbian.

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1: Thanks to New York and Hollyweird the public thinks a quarter of the population is gay.

2: Pretty shocking to see a leftist publication actually tell the truth that under 2% of the population are gay not the 10% lie from the discredited Kinsey report.

1 posted on 05/31/2012 12:14:17 PM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

Oh craaaaap! Now the feds will declare them to be an endangered species.


2 posted on 05/31/2012 12:16:36 PM PDT by meatloaf (Support Senate S 1863 & House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: C19fan

TRUE...
But that 2% makes up 50% or more of the mainstream media.
Hence the impression.

And, if you point that out, you must be a racist, or hate civl rights, or sumpin’.


3 posted on 05/31/2012 12:17:16 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: C19fan

“...with more than a third of those surveyed now guessing that more than 25 percent of Americans are gay or lesbian.”

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What’s the word for when one is surrounded by hopelessly abject ignorance and stupidity?


4 posted on 05/31/2012 12:18:13 PM PDT by EyeGuy (Armed, judgmental, fiscally responsible heterosexual.)
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To: C19fan
Thanks to New York and Hollyweird the public thinks a quarter of the population is gay.

In New York and Hollyweird, they may be right
5 posted on 05/31/2012 12:18:13 PM PDT by slumber1 (Don't taze me bro!)
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To: C19fan

Whatever the number, I’m not a gay hater, but the activist element is pushing an agenda to recruit more and more to that lifestyle. Gay adoption, gay schoolbooks, gay marriage, gays in movies and tv. Anyone who thinks all this isn’t influencing young people is ignorant of human nature.


6 posted on 05/31/2012 12:21:00 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: C19fan

1 in 10 yet just about all the new music you hear on “Top 40” radio today is geared towards homosexuals. Lady GaGa, 70s gay discoball music and prison queen rappers.


7 posted on 05/31/2012 12:23:27 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Some day our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: C19fan

1 in 100...maybe.1 in 10...no bleeping way.


8 posted on 05/31/2012 12:24:01 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Julia: another casualty of the "War on Poverty")
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To: C19fan

There was a recent survey taken, accurately done, that showed the homosexual population of the UK was right about 1.5%. I would say it is about the same for the USA.

But in America that 1.5% of the population contributes to about 65% of the reported STDs according to the CDC.


9 posted on 05/31/2012 12:25:26 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: slumber1

The “B” in LGBT is a clear appeal for straight people to try the gay lifestyle. I can’t see any other motive in pushing the “right” to have sex w both males and females. It’s an anything goes assault on traditional relationships. The goal is for everyone to be a slut, and of course to vote democrat as a placeholder for marxism.


10 posted on 05/31/2012 12:26:18 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: C19fan

They do a good job of reporting accurate numbers. For men and women it’s about 1% to 2% homosexual, with the percentage bisexual depending on definition but ranging from 0.5%-1.5% for men and 1%-4% for women. Three cheers for honest debate! The Kinsey and Shere Hite numbers were (I suspect intentionally) a vast overstatement of the actual rates of homosexuality.


11 posted on 05/31/2012 12:26:30 PM PDT by Pollster1 (A boy becomes a man when a man is needed - John Steinbeck)
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To: C19fan

That’s still too many.


12 posted on 05/31/2012 12:28:17 PM PDT by BO Stinkss
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To: C19fan

Young people today think that the goal in life is to have sex with everybody and everything.


13 posted on 05/31/2012 12:29:39 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: C19fan
I've been saying this for years. The number of homo/queer/gay/confused is tiny.

When I was in high school I had a friend who's father was "confused". He had some of the first "act up" type meetings at his house. The big thing that they wanted to push was to NEVER EVER allow anyone to talk about what they do with each other. Keep the physical activity off the public radar at all times and slug mouth anyone who talked about anal s@x etc. The push was to refer to "love" and the "feelings" gays have.

My buddy's dad would have these big gay parties. Sometimes down in the Montrose section of Houston. I was 16 at the time and those guys were all over me. That did them no good. I'd always get thrown out of the parties. I'd wait until they all got good and drunk then I'd ask "You put your thing in his backside then he turns around and puts it in his mouth?". I put it in a more colorful way. They had fits when I asked those kinds of questions.

Most of the gay men I met, and I met 100's, were all just about the most self-destructive and self-loathing people I ever met. They were really sad people. Today, as then, all I care about when it comes to homosexuals is that they just shut up. I don't want to hear it. There are very few of you so just shut up. Stop invading my space.

14 posted on 05/31/2012 12:30:09 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
But in America that 1.5% of the population contributes to about 65% of the reported STDs according to the CDC.

Need to sic Bloomberg & Moochie on 'em .... they're the 'health' nuts. /s

15 posted on 05/31/2012 12:30:30 PM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: C19fan

I wouldn’t say the Kinsey report is *totally* discredited. I believe that 10% of the prison population might be gay, which was where they got the number.

But I am being facetious. That number has been extrapolated to the public at large, and it amounts to junk science that’s worse than man-made Climate Change.


16 posted on 05/31/2012 12:32:17 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: C19fan

Nor do I care about how many homosexuals there are. But as far as “gay” is concerned, there are a hellofalot less Gay people now than there was whn obama occupied the White House. “Gay” means happy, not queer.


17 posted on 05/31/2012 12:32:30 PM PDT by sport
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To: C19fan

We saw this movie before in the early 1900’s. A minority group of Russian anti-czarists called themselves ‘bolsheviks’, which translates to ‘the majority’.

It’s an old trick, you lie about being the consensus until you bully enough people until you become the consensus.


18 posted on 05/31/2012 12:34:40 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: meatloaf

Obama will start at Department of Recruiting.


19 posted on 05/31/2012 12:35:08 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: C19fan

People do this this a lot because of the media.

Because of media coverage many people think that about a third of America is black, that Jews are about 25% of America.

People here that keep up with numbers will remember that one of the results from post 911 coverage was that many Americans learned that instead of being a small religion of whites, that Christianity was the largest religion on the planet.

The statement that Christianity was the world’s largest religion used to get you laughed at.


20 posted on 05/31/2012 12:44:13 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP now goes for it's Presidential candidates.)
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To: C19fan

If God took out all the queers we wouldn’t miss them. There would be a lot of job openings in media and government,thereby stimulating the economy.


21 posted on 05/31/2012 12:44:57 PM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: C19fan

But “Glee” tells us everyone is gay and if your not approving of the way they were born then we are to be damned

Our children are the worst at believing this crap if you don’t believe me then look down a halls of a highschool and see the boys holding hands and the girls smooching bye between classes.


22 posted on 05/31/2012 12:47:19 PM PDT by Rightly Biased (How do you say Arkanicide in Kenyan?)
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To: Cyber Liberty

When I was studying psych the most reliable study was a U of Chicago study which put gay percentage at 3 percent.


23 posted on 05/31/2012 12:50:17 PM PDT by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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To: isthisnickcool
Sometimes down in the Montrose section of Houston.

I saw Montrose transition during the late 1960s and early 1970s, mixed in with the wild homosexuality was a smattering of Satan worship in that area.

Hippies had Montrose before the homosexuals, but the homosexual money replaced them.

It was quite the party place for awhile.

24 posted on 05/31/2012 12:54:23 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP now goes for it's Presidential candidates.)
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To: C19fan

I’ve done the same thing with people on the ratio of blacks (err, africian-american, err, negro, err, whatever the current accepted title is) in the US. Usually get back 1/4 to 1/3. Sometimes as much as 1/2. Most are shocked to hear 13%.


25 posted on 05/31/2012 12:58:43 PM PDT by T. P. Pole
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To: Williams
Gay adoption, gay schoolbooks, gay marriage, gays in movies and tv.Anyone who thinks all this isn’t influencing young people is ignorant of human nature.

In my opinion this is being perpetuated by technocratic and bureaucratic elites as a means of population control.

26 posted on 05/31/2012 1:01:43 PM PDT by A message
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To: C19fan

“1: Thanks to New York and Hollyweird the public thinks a quarter of the population is gay”

And 30-40% of the best, brightest, kindest, and most accomplished of the population are black.


27 posted on 05/31/2012 1:04:05 PM PDT by MtBaldy (If Obama is the answer, it must have been a really stupid question)
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To: sgtyork

“When I was studying psych the most reliable study was a U of Chicago study which put gay percentage at 3 percent.”

1.75% of males are gay
1.56% of Females are lesbian

The % have been stable for many years.


28 posted on 05/31/2012 1:06:37 PM PDT by buffaloguy (uab.)
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To: Cyber Liberty
I wouldn’t say the Kinsey report is *totally* discredited. I believe that 10% of the prison population might be gay, which was where they got the number.

I suspect Kinsey got 10% because in prison there are straights using homo-sex as a way to seek sexual release or demonstrate domination. Kinsey no doubt phrased the questions to solicit the desired answers, just like some of the "push-polling" practices in our political races.

29 posted on 05/31/2012 1:07:12 PM PDT by ken in texas (I was taught to respect my elders but it keeps getting harder to find any.)
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To: ansel12
What I found interesting was how the local cops totally avoided the place. We went down there (late 70's) and street raced the nights away and were never hassled. Since we were teens we didn't have to worry about getting hurt while racing.
30 posted on 05/31/2012 1:10:10 PM PDT by Clay Moore (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of a fool to the left. Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: C19fan

It follows that far fewer of us than Big Entertainment would have you believe have a gay friend readily available for purposes of decorating help, party preparation, personal grooming and wardrobe advice, and egregiously insulting snap judgements passed off as sage witticisms.


31 posted on 05/31/2012 1:11:41 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: tcrlaf

“And, if you point that out, you must be a racist, or hate civl rights, or sumpin’.”

You’re a phobe......


32 posted on 05/31/2012 1:15:00 PM PDT by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: C19fan

Even if we surveyed EVERY PERSON to prove that only 1% of the population was gay, they’d just come back and say “a lot of them were gay and didn’t know it” or some other BS.


33 posted on 05/31/2012 1:15:10 PM PDT by Mich Patriot (Today if you invent a better mousetrap, the government comes along with a better mouse. RReagan)
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To: tcrlaf

And the Democratic Party advocates for their special rights.
And now we have Obama appointing openly homosexual Judges.and....


34 posted on 05/31/2012 1:17:15 PM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: Clay Moore

I can’t believe the stuff we used to get away with in Houston.

I used to hang my six pack in the ring holders on the outside mirror to keep it cooler during the winter.

We would buy a twelve pack for each vehicle and then tow a car across the city.

During the hard core of the 60s when possession of a single seed was a felony in Texas, I would carry a Johnny Cash 8 track and a pint of Jim Beam on the seat beside me. If pulled over I would put in the CW tape, take a giant swig from the whiskey and hope that the cop would not notice my long hair, and assume that I had merely been drinking all night.

The cops were few and far between, disinterested mostly, but on the other hand they might beat you to death for no good reason, also, they were the law and depending on the circumstances, you could get away with almost anything, or get a serious beat down because of your looks.


35 posted on 05/31/2012 1:31:08 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP now goes for it's Presidential candidates.)
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To: C19fan

In related news, studies show that most homosexuals are not born that way. They just get sucked into it.


36 posted on 05/31/2012 1:36:41 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: C19fan
Not sure about the gay # but there are many practicing bisexual women out there...most married and even their hubbies do not know.

20% of woman have had or are doing a bisexual relationship..and that may be a low #

37 posted on 05/31/2012 1:37:16 PM PDT by trailhkr1 (All you need to know about Zimmerman, innocent = riots, manslaughter = riots, guilty = riots)
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To: C19fan

They whine like they are 10%...


38 posted on 05/31/2012 1:37:30 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: trailhkr1
20% of woman have had or are doing a bisexual relationship..and that may be a low #

Nope. According to the studies cited in the article, 1.8% to 4% of women identify themselves as bisexual and a total of 13% have reported ever having "some form of sexual contact with other women."

39 posted on 05/31/2012 1:55:31 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: EyeGuy

“What’s the word for when one is surrounded by hopelessly abject ignorance and stupidity?”

“Democrat National Convention”

I know that is three words. But it’s one phrase, so close enough.


40 posted on 05/31/2012 1:56:12 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: BenLurkin

“Young people today think that the goal in life is to have sex with everybody...”

Don’t make me get out the Helen Thomas picture!


41 posted on 05/31/2012 1:59:10 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: MtBaldy
And 30-40% of the best, brightest, kindest, and most accomplished of the population are black.

And 95% of white males are morons.

42 posted on 05/31/2012 2:07:16 PM PDT by Inspectorette
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To: Williams

“The “B” in LGBT”

This is one thing I’ve never been able to get a straight answer from anyone who defends homosexuality. Bisexualism…if it’s NOT a choice, please explain it? I don’t believe most gays are born this way, but I do believe many of them are that way by the age of 5.

But definitely NOT ALL of them. For some of them, it is a choice.


43 posted on 05/31/2012 2:10:55 PM PDT by skinndogNN
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To: C19fan

And 80% live in Massachusetts.


44 posted on 05/31/2012 2:35:32 PM PDT by GreatRoad (O < 0)
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To: isthisnickcool
Today, as then, all I care about when it comes to homosexuals is that they just shut up.

The "love that dare not speak its name" now refuses to shut the hell up!

45 posted on 05/31/2012 2:50:22 PM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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What’s the word for when one is surrounded by hopelessly abject ignorance and stupidity?

0 bummer voters. What do I win??

46 posted on 05/31/2012 3:03:56 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (It's time to take out the trash in DC.)
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To: JimRed

Too true.


47 posted on 05/31/2012 3:24:44 PM PDT by Psalm 144 ("I'm not willing to light my hair on fire to try and get support. I am who I am." - Willard M Romney)
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To: skinndogNN

I believe it is the book “Kinsey and Consequences” or another related book that found that boys who had been sexually abused were more likely to become “homosexual”.


48 posted on 05/31/2012 4:14:21 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: A message

Picture the whole world as a cow that can always be milked, a place where nothing moral or cultural can pose a credible challenge to the dictatorship of the secular mass market.


49 posted on 05/31/2012 5:43:18 PM PDT by Mmmike
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To: Inspectorette

Just the ones who aren’t gay.


50 posted on 06/01/2012 7:42:06 AM PDT by MtBaldy (If Obama is the answer, it must have been a really stupid question)
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