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Obama order sped up wave of cyberattacks against Iran (Get yer boots on!)
NYTimes vie MSNBC.com ^ | 6/1/2012 | DAVID E. SANGER

Posted on 06/01/2012 2:56:01 AM PDT by raybbr

WASHINGTON — From his first months in office, President Obama secretly ordered increasingly sophisticated attacks on the computer systems that run Iran’s main nuclear enrichment facilities, significantly expanding America’s first sustained use of cyberweapons, according to participants in the program.

Mr. Obama decided to accelerate the attacks — begun in the Bush administration and code-named Olympic Games — even after an element of the program accidentally became public in the summer of 2010 because of a programming error that allowed it to escape Iran’s Natanz plant and sent it around the world on the Internet. Computer security experts who began studying the worm, which had been developed by the United States and Israel, gave it a name: Stuxnet.

At a tense meeting in the White House Situation Room within days of the worm’s “escape,” Mr. Obama, Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. and the director of the Central Intelligence Agency at the time, Leon E. Panetta, considered whether America’s most ambitious attempt to slow the progress of Iran’s nuclear efforts had been fatally compromised.

“Should we shut this thing down?” Mr. Obama asked, according to members of the president’s national security team who were in the room.

Told it was unclear how much the Iranians knew about the code, and offered evidence that it was still causing havoc, Mr. Obama decided that the cyberattacks should proceed. In the following weeks, the Natanz plant was hit by a newer version of the computer worm, and then another after that. The last of that series of attacks, a few weeks after Stuxnet was detected around the world, temporarily took out nearly 1,000 of the 5,000 centrifuges Iran had spinning at the time to purify uranium.

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Obama is getting desperate. Taking credit for the things started under Bush while trashing Bush's administration.
1 posted on 06/01/2012 2:56:18 AM PDT by raybbr
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To: raybbr

...from water boarding to obama boarding....
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/301491/barack-obama-drone-warrior-charles-krauthammer


2 posted on 06/01/2012 3:00:47 AM PDT by biggredd1
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To: biggredd1
"Drone Warrior" - I like that one:


3 posted on 06/01/2012 3:05:54 AM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: raybbr

Ok, getting pissed. Retired Navy cryptologist. I have seen clearances revoked for less. If this story is factual, or has any basis in reality, this is a serious breach of basically everything I know about security. What the hell?


4 posted on 06/01/2012 3:29:15 AM PDT by gotaz
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To: raybbr

Ok, getting pissed. Retired Navy cryptologist. I have seen clearances revoked for less. If this story is factual, or has any basis in reality, this is a serious breach of basically everything I know about security. What the hell?


5 posted on 06/01/2012 3:29:24 AM PDT by gotaz
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To: raybbr

Ok, getting pissed. Retired Navy cryptologist. I have seen clearances revoked for less. If this story is factual, or has any basis in reality, this is a serious breach of basically everything I know about security. What the hell?


6 posted on 06/01/2012 3:29:37 AM PDT by gotaz
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To: raybbr

Ok, getting pissed. Retired Navy cryptologist. I have seen clearances revoked for less. If this story is factual, or has any basis in reality, this is a serious breach of basically everything I know about security. What the hell?


7 posted on 06/01/2012 3:29:37 AM PDT by gotaz
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To: raybbr

Ok, getting pissed. Retired Navy cryptologist. I have seen clearances revoked for less. If this story is factual, or has any basis in reality, this is a serious breach of basically everything I know about security. What the hell?


8 posted on 06/01/2012 3:29:37 AM PDT by gotaz
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To: raybbr
the worm, which had been developed by the United States and Israel

Mr. Obama decided that the cyberattacks should proceed.

None of this was public knowledge before now, was it?

I mean yes, there was speculation and intelligent guesswork, but no confirmation...

So why is it in the papers now?

Let me guess: We'll see a story about how those CompSci courses at Harvard paid off as he personally rewrote a critical subroutine in the code.

We'll see a story about how Barry-O came in off the golf course, sat down in front of a computer screen, and gave the order "Let's do this thing" to launch the attack.

9 posted on 06/01/2012 3:33:35 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: gotaz
Could you repeat that? I didn't catch it the first five times...

;-)

10 posted on 06/01/2012 3:34:58 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: raybbr
The "WORM"

11 posted on 06/01/2012 3:36:54 AM PDT by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Sorry, that was an oops. On my kindle and it didn’t appear to have posted the first time. Apologize to all.


12 posted on 06/01/2012 3:37:45 AM PDT by gotaz
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To: gotaz

The post needed repeating it was right on.

Only a damned fool would be so desperate as to think he could be elected by taking credit for something that should forever remain secret.Why isn’t he so forward with his own background information.

Why doesn’t he just send out an open invitation for everyone to launch cyber attacks against us? The fool.

This guy has to go while we still have a country that MIGHT be saved.


13 posted on 06/01/2012 3:43:35 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: raybbr
Iran has our RQ-170 drone that crashed 4 December 2011 on display in a museum. They are trying to build a replica of the aircraft.
14 posted on 06/01/2012 3:45:26 AM PDT by moonshot925
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To: gotaz
Ok, getting pissed. Retired Navy cryptologist. I have seen clearances revoked for less. If this story is factual, or has any basis in reality, this is a serious breach of basically everything I know about security. What the hell?

He doesn't care. The most important thing to obummer is obummer, and next to that staying in power. We couldn't have done worse electing a Soviet mole President of the United States.... Maybe we did!

Mike

15 posted on 06/01/2012 3:48:22 AM PDT by MichaelP (The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools ~HS)
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To: raybbr

The story refers to Zer0 as “Mr Obama,” which is the style used in British journalism, and some of the pix are credited to Reuters. Meaningful?


16 posted on 06/01/2012 3:57:40 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: gotaz; All
Ok, getting pissed. Retired Navy cryptologist. I have seen clearances revoked for less. If this story is factual, or has any basis in reality, this is a serious breach of basically everything I know about security. What the hell?

When you have a Muslim terrorist playing POTUS, all the cards are on the table to get re-elected. Hollywood gets access to Bin Laden information, TOP SECRET cyber attack info gets released, the press lies continuously to protect their Muslim traitor playing liberal......

Whether Americans read DU, FREEREPUBLIC or the comics, they are the biggest fools in history.

I won't tell you what I did in the service.

17 posted on 06/01/2012 4:05:46 AM PDT by politicianslie (Obama: Our first Muslim PRESIDENT,destroying America $1 Trillion at a time! And America sleeps)
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To: raybbr

Boy, it’s a good thing he got the Peace Prize, huh?


18 posted on 06/01/2012 4:18:49 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (Still a contributing Republican? Why?)
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To: raybbr

Boy, it’s a good thing he got the Peace Prize, huh?


19 posted on 06/01/2012 4:18:52 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (Still a contributing Republican? Why?)
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To: raybbr

Is Obama also taking credit for the Stuxnet virus?


20 posted on 06/01/2012 4:39:21 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: raybbr

Next, we will be reading about hussein’s bravery about taking on the role of target by all terrorist groups since it is he, and he alone, who is responsible for taking out all the bad guys.


21 posted on 06/01/2012 4:50:34 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: raybbr
Hey 0 bummer, "Loose lips sink ships".
22 posted on 06/01/2012 5:04:08 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (It's time to take out the trash in DC.)
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To: gotaz
You're right. You never give away what your capabilities are. Maybe the Iranians had some clues that pointed at the US or Israel etc. Maybe they had some that pointed at others as the source. By going public with this, he just confirmed and/or refuted some of their sources. That gives the Iranians more confidence in some sources, less in others. In other words folks, he just gave their intelligence services undeniable aid and support.

Interesting how hussein is only referred to by title what, once in the article. Then it is simply "Mr."

One other thing. These meetings, if they took place, were "secret" meetings. So presumably no-one is allowed to talk about them. Only the anointed hussein cohort in crime can "leak" their version of events. If anyone else talks about them, off to prison, do not pass go, do not get your day in court. (National Security don't you know!) So all we have is some hussein flunky's version of events. I seriously doubt it went down the way they say it did.

23 posted on 06/01/2012 6:03:18 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: raybbr

from the looong ny times article:

Mr. Obama, according to participants in the many Situation Room meetings on Olympic Games, was acutely aware that with every attack he was pushing the United States into new territory, much as his predecessors had with the first use of atomic weapons in the 1940s, of intercontinental missiles in the 1950s and of drones in the past decade. He repeatedly expressed concerns that any American acknowledgment that it was using cyberweapons — even under the most careful and limited circumstances — could enable other countries, terrorists or hackers to justify their own attacks.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/01/world/middleeast/obama-ordered-wave-of-cyberattacks-against-iran.html?_r=1&;


24 posted on 06/01/2012 6:07:21 AM PDT by quimby
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To: raybbr
the New York Times?

Automatic dismissal.

25 posted on 06/01/2012 6:12:23 AM PDT by Lazamataz (People who resort to Godwin's Law are just like Hitler.)
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To: quimby

Is it just me or does it seem a real stretch to equate hacking an IT system with all of the work that went into developing ICBMs or atomic weapons?

Someone seems a little full of himself.


26 posted on 06/01/2012 6:22:20 AM PDT by perez24 (Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap.)
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To: quimby

Is it just me or does it seem a real stretch to equate hacking an IT system with all of the work that went into developing ICBMs or atomic weapons?

Someone seems a little full of himself.


27 posted on 06/01/2012 6:22:20 AM PDT by perez24 (Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap.)
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To: raybbr

To paraphrase Eli Wallach in “The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly,”: If you’re going to talk, talk; if you’re going to hack, hack!


28 posted on 06/01/2012 6:28:55 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: gotaz

I don’t think it was on purpose, but the repeating of this particular post was fine with me. Admitting this is FUBAR.


29 posted on 06/01/2012 6:32:51 AM PDT by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: gotaz
Obama is informing US is behind Stuxnet?

this is a serious breach of basically everything I know about security

And then some, particularly so as it concerns Iran at this time. This is mind-bogglingly self-serving at the price of national security.

30 posted on 06/01/2012 6:39:30 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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Next story:

“Obama first president to memorize nuclear codes, says it’s easy for him because they’re 888777666555444.”


31 posted on 06/01/2012 6:43:36 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr; gotaz
....self-serving....

When you talk about The 0, those are actually the two most operative words that can be imagined.

...and if you think that this was a crass move, just wait until the campaign/WH starts to get really desperate.

JMHO, if The 0's private polls don't start going up almost exponentially by the end of July, there won't be ANY limits on the stuff that gets exposed or the measures that will be used against his opponents. Right down to thee and me.

This Chicago Clown Posse is just liable to try to make Apres moi le deluge into real life, if they don't get what they want.

32 posted on 06/01/2012 7:42:14 AM PDT by Unrepentant VN Vet ((231 and a wakeup) Truth, I know, always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition.)
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To: Izzy Dunne
Here is a 'secret' picture of the 'meeting' where Obama said, "should we shut this thing down?"


33 posted on 06/01/2012 8:48:33 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: D-fendr

Realistically where would Iran think Stuxnet came from?

US and Israel?

or

China and Venezuela?


34 posted on 06/01/2012 8:57:30 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: nascarnation

>>”where would Iran think Stuxnet came from?”

Better to keep them thinking than to let them, their people, and the word know.

It is and should have remained a secret program.


35 posted on 06/01/2012 9:39:59 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: nascarnation

>>”where would Iran think Stuxnet came from?”

Better to keep them thinking than to let them, their people, and the world know.

It is and should have remained a secret program.


36 posted on 06/01/2012 9:40:26 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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And they manage to blame Israel for something here also:

Mr. Obama, according to officials in the room, asked a series of questions, fearful that the code could do damage outside the plant. The answers came back in hedged terms. Mr. Biden fumed. “It’s got to be the Israelis,” he said. “They went too far.”

Plus details and confirmation of specifics of implementation and how Stuxnet was escaped from an Iranian engineer’s computer.

Way too many loose lips and, of course, the NYT will print it - especially in an article to tout our ballsy CIC.

I think Congress should investigate the leaks and heads should roll.


37 posted on 06/01/2012 9:50:11 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Izzy Dunne
So why is it in the papers now?

The Barry/Axelrod axis has decided to enlist the ever willing NYSlimes in a series of stories designed to show that Barry is some kind of tough hombre. Earlier this week, it was "Barry - Master of Drones." Now this. And of course, as you note, cyber warrior Barry gets all the credit.

38 posted on 06/01/2012 10:26:33 AM PDT by mojito
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To: raybbr

If this was 1944, and Obama was in the White House, he would be telling people how he’s getting tough with Germany by scheduling the invasion of Normandy for next week.


39 posted on 06/01/2012 10:40:58 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: raybbr

Stuxnet had to at least start development under Bush. You can’t write code like that on the fly.


40 posted on 06/01/2012 10:56:17 AM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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