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Oh my: Obama now below 50% against Romney in California
Hot Air ^ | JUNE 1, 2012 | ALLAHPUNDIT

Posted on 06/01/2012 3:59:58 PM PDT by RobinMasters

Even in the bluest of blue states, he’s now treading water at 48 percent, still comfortably ahead of Romney but unable to grab a majority even in Cali. Big deal or no? Banish the thought from your mind that Romney has a chance of winning there. He doesn’t — although don’t hold me to that if we get another three or four jobs reports that look like today’s. No, the potential significance of this and the reason why there’s some buzz about it among righties on Twitter is that it’s circumstantial evidence that The One might be starting to collapse nationally. That’s John Ellis’s point about the Wisconsin recall, after all: If Walker wins big there, then it may be a sign that a decisive national shift is already under way.

The obligatory historical comparison:


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2012election; california; election2012; kenyanbornmuzzie; mittromney

1 posted on 06/01/2012 4:00:04 PM PDT by RobinMasters
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To: RobinMasters

With California’s economy going like gang-busters, how could Obama lose there? Oh, wait...Gangs going like.... Oh, never mind.


2 posted on 06/01/2012 4:07:39 PM PDT by Mark (Don't argue with my posts. I typed while under sniper fire..)
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To: RobinMasters

DOW DE-EVOLUTION
U.S. UNEMPLOYMENT RISES, JOB GROWTH SLUMPS...
Weak U.S. Job Growth Threatens World Economy...
MITT: 'Devastating News'...
'Jobs Are Job One For The Presidency'...
W.H. Excuse: 'Will Not Be Solved Overnight'...
EXPECTED: BLAMES BUSH...
Hm: Obama's Outspent Past Five Presidents...
POLL: ECONOMY WILL DECIDE ELECTION...


NOT A CARE IN THE WORLD

3 posted on 06/01/2012 4:10:13 PM PDT by OwenKellogg
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To: RobinMasters

I really think we will be looking at a landslide rejection of the incompetent socialist jerk. If that happens it is conceivable California could turn red.


4 posted on 06/01/2012 4:10:43 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: RobinMasters

The GOP should not waste one dime contesting California, New York or New Jersey, regardless what the polls say. If those states flip GOP, Obama had no chance anyway. It’s fools gold to think those states are up for grabs.


5 posted on 06/01/2012 4:10:57 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Our economy won't heal until one particular black man is unemployed.)
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To: RobinMasters

California was the only state in the USA to elect MORE Democrats in 2010, during the bloodbath that saw the US House go back to the Republicans.

I can guarantee CA goes for Obama. Done deal. There is no way Romney wins CA.


6 posted on 06/01/2012 4:14:33 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: OwenKellogg

You may be too young to remember but the left used to show a picture of Nixon laughing like this with the caption “Why is this man laughing?” If I had any skill I would duplicate it and post it everywhere. Especially as the economy tanks this could be worth a million votes!


7 posted on 06/01/2012 4:21:35 PM PDT by mick (Central Banker Capitalism is NOT Free Enterprise)
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To: RobinMasters

California is a lost cause, but these numbers do show how vulnerable Hussein is.

All the folks here who declared Romney couldn’t beat Obama may have a lot of crow to eat come November. I’d say the odds Mitt wins are improving and are likely 50/50 at this time.

Romney may be a RINO, but he wants the job more than McCain did, has a more savvy campaign team than the GOP did 4 years ago, and is facing a BHO with an actual record he can’t hide behind.


8 posted on 06/01/2012 4:25:59 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: colorado tanker
the incompetent socialist jerk

Obama is not incompetent. Jimmy Carter was incompetent. Carter's disastrous policies were driven by incompetence. What drives Obama's disastrous policies is malice. Cold, calculated malice.

If one measures success by the achievement of one's goals, then Barak Obama may be one of the most successful presidents in US history.

9 posted on 06/01/2012 4:28:50 PM PDT by kevao
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To: OrangeHoof

You nailed it. Smacks of a ruse to get the GOP to waste campaign money in states already in the tank for zero.


10 posted on 06/01/2012 4:29:54 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Longbow1969
All the folks here who declared Romney couldn’t beat Obama may have a lot of crow to eat come November.

It will be the economy that beats Obama...not Romney.

11 posted on 06/01/2012 4:31:58 PM PDT by suijuris
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To: OrangeHoof
The GOP should not waste one dime contesting California, New York or New Jersey, regardless what the polls say.

It's attitudes like that that help ensure that we never win those states. Instead of writing those states off, the GOP should be pouring resources into them by running solid candidates at every level of office. Eventually, the tide will turn. It can be done, one congressman and senator at at time.

Nobody gave Bob Turner a chance last September in NYC's congressional district (previously held by Weiner in Brooklyn and Queens). Yet the Republican won! Nobody gave Scott Brown a chance in Kennedy's senate seat in Massachusetts. But guess what?

Republicans can get elected anywhere in this country. Don't cede the Democrats a damn thing.

12 posted on 06/01/2012 4:41:38 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: kevao
If one measures success by the achievement of one's goals, then Barak Obama may be one of the most successful presidents in US history.

Historically, Presidential success has been measured by economic and security and foreign policy success. Obama has implemented measures that are killing the economy and promises to do even worse. He is weakening the armed forces and has adopted an Afghanistan policy that may well turn it back over to the Taliban. Our standing with other nations is down. The guy is incompetent.

OTOH, if the measure of success is the ability to get a President's agenda enacted, no matter how misguided it may be, I agree with you, the putz has been a success.

13 posted on 06/01/2012 4:42:40 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

obviously if obama loses California, it will be a 50 state landslide.

if obama has to struggle in California, it will be about a 43 state landslide....


14 posted on 06/01/2012 4:42:51 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: kevao; colorado tanker
Obama is not incompetent....What drives Obama's disastrous policies is malice. Cold, calculated malice.

I agree completely. If ANYONE is under the false impression this guy is incompetent, we need to educate them IMMEDIATELY if not sooner.

He knows EXACTLY what he is doing. I WISH it was incompetence. It's not. It is deliberate. It is the cold and calculated implementation of the Cloward-Piven strategy. What appears as incompetence is merely cracks in the facade he has built as a life; glitches in the matrix if you will.

15 posted on 06/01/2012 4:42:51 PM PDT by NELSON111
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To: RobinMasters

That’s an ugly pic...my eyes hurt!


16 posted on 06/01/2012 4:45:07 PM PDT by citizen (Obama blames:Arab Spring,Banks,Big Oil,Bush,Ceos,Coal,Euro Zone,FNC,Jpn Tsunami,T Party,Wall St,You)
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To: RobinMasters

Big deal?

No, huge deal.

For “winning” California?

No, for the signpost of the complete implosion of his campaign and his Presidency.

He can always salvage California by spending all his money there playing to the gays, the environazis and minorities. But he CAN’T be elected nationally under 50 in California.

It’s the same thng for him as if a Republican were under 50 in Alabama.


17 posted on 06/01/2012 4:45:22 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: suijuris

>>It will be the economy that beats Obama...not Romney.

I hope Romney will make it as entertaining as yesterday though...”SOLYYYYYNDRA! SOLYYYYYNDRA!”


18 posted on 06/01/2012 4:51:55 PM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: SamAdams76
Republicans can get elected anywhere in this country. Don't cede the Democrats a damn thing.

But, first, by all means, win those states and demographics that you cvan win.

Don't pour money into California if you risk winning Pennsylvania.

Let's have somme priorities here...

19 posted on 06/01/2012 4:52:28 PM PDT by okie01
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To: Longbow1969

You are so right about Romney’s campaign. I have been involved in the Republican Party here in my county in Fl. I listened to part of the ground game
from his campaign last week. They are very organized, and they will not waste money. Can’t say he was my choice, but he wants this so badly. His handlers are very calculating.


20 posted on 06/01/2012 4:55:03 PM PDT by marygam (#Hurry November 2012, we might not make it#)
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To: suijuris

Yeah. Romney sucks.


21 posted on 06/01/2012 4:59:52 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (Romney sucks. Mutiny now, or something.)
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To: RobinMasters

Mittens ain’t winning CA. Don’t spend a dime there.


22 posted on 06/01/2012 5:03:05 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: SpaceBar
My scorecard shows only Calif, NY, and Illinois in Obie's column. Given 6 more months of Obama, even those may not be safe, but we're looking at a landslide of epic proportions.

Liberalism must be cut off at the knees, never to walk again in my lifetime.

23 posted on 06/01/2012 5:24:26 PM PDT by chiller (Elect another batch of TPartiers and it won't matter which R we elect. WE will lead.)
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To: mick

24 posted on 06/01/2012 5:30:24 PM PDT by Usually_Disappointed (I think the tree of liberty is getting thirsty...)
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To: marygam
I have been involved in the Republican Party here in my county in Fl.

Same here in Virginia. Romney was certainly not my choice, but he is the nominee and I am going to work hard to see to it Hussein is defeated.

The Romney folks are very organized and are not going to play nice with the media and Obama campaign. These guys want to win FAR more than McCain or his people did.

25 posted on 06/01/2012 5:49:49 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: suijuris
It will be the economy that beats Obama...not Romney.

The economy sucked in 1979, Reagan still had to go out and beat Carter.

Romney is obviously no Reagan, but he is proving to be a much better candidate this time around than people gave him credit for. At minimum, his campaign team is VASTLY better than the rank amateurs McCain hired in 2008.

26 posted on 06/01/2012 5:56:07 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: RobinMasters
DANG....Obama really does have big stick’em out ears, doesn't he?

and No Barry I won't shed any tears over your defeat...

27 posted on 06/01/2012 6:41:31 PM PDT by haircutter
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To: kevao
What drives Obama's disastrous policies is malice. Cold, calculated malice.

A person can be malicious and incompetent. The two are not mutually exclusive.

28 posted on 06/01/2012 6:51:35 PM PDT by CharacterCounts (A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
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To: CharacterCounts
A person can be malicious and incompetent. The two are not mutually exclusive.

No way Obama could have wrought this much destruction upon our country in 3.5 years if he were incompetent. No, the guy knows exactly what he's doing and is very good at it.

If you have any doubts, find out what the Cloward-Piven Strategy is, and then tell where he's deviated from it in any way.

29 posted on 06/01/2012 6:56:03 PM PDT by kevao
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To: kevao

If Obamacare goes down, the rest of the messiah’s “successes” can be reversed with an Executive Order.


30 posted on 06/01/2012 6:56:26 PM PDT by CharacterCounts (A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
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To: CharacterCounts

You can’t reverse a currency collapse with an Executive Order. And we are getting very, very close to that. We’ve been given a short reprieve now only because the European Community is in such a shambles, and there is a “flight to quality” (LMAO!) to the US$. But that’s kind of like choosing between Stage IV cancer and advanced Stage IV cancer. In the end, it doesn’t really matter all that much either way. We’ve printed at least $5 trillion (that we know about — and who knows how much Bernanke sent overseas to shore up foreign banks?) in a $15 trillion economy. No, it’s not all circulating now. But guess what happens when it does....


31 posted on 06/01/2012 7:11:33 PM PDT by kevao
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To: kevao
He can follow a prescribed strategy like a teenager can follow a simple cookbook recipe. Following a simple recipe doesn't make the teenager a competent cook. Competence involves learning from your mistakes and Obama has demonstrated a clear lack of ability in this regard.

He is not competent, he is just a bully.

32 posted on 06/01/2012 7:14:25 PM PDT by CharacterCounts (A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
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To: RobinMasters

California voted against homosexual marriage. It’s a state with a mountain of problems, but it’s not out of reach to a presidential candidate with a sound Conservative agenda, and the ability to articulate it.

Romney is not our idea of a Conservative, in fact I don’t think he is one, but he is running on what sounds like a Conservative agenda, will be seen that way by the public, and still has a chance to win in California if he doesn’t write it off like other Republican candidates over the last twenty years.

Frankly, I’d like to see our ideals presented in the state. It would introduce some of those ideals to young voters for the first time in their lives, with a loud enough voice it would be impossible to ignore.


33 posted on 06/01/2012 7:16:36 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (This space for rent...)
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To: SamAdams76

“It’s attitudes like that that help ensure that we never win those states. Instead of writing those states off, the GOP should be pouring resources into them by running solid candidates at every level of office.”

For some selected local contests in “enemy states”, yes.
Generally speaking, no.

This election — at least at the presidential level — is going to be determined by the tallies in roughly 12 states.

In some states, it makes no difference how much the Republicans spend — they are going to lose.
In others, makes no difference how much the Republicans spend — they are going to win.

This year the “battleground states” are even more important, because Romney must win nearly ALL of them, in order to win enough electoral votes to become president.

The country has grown so divided that politics has become something akin to the medical concept of “triage”. That is, some states will be “dead to us” no matter what we do. Others will “live” (for us), whether we try in them or not. We must use what “resources” that are available to “save” those states that could go either way, because unless we keep them alive, we lose.

I’m not saying that we should abandon Republican and conservative candidates across the board in the blue states.

What I -AM- saying is that we should choose our battles carefully and spend our resources wisely.

The big one is just too important to lose this time. Our best chance is to throw nearly everything we have at the battleground states, and blast away!


34 posted on 06/01/2012 7:17:02 PM PDT by Road Glide
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To: CharacterCounts
Competence involves learning from your mistakes and Obama has demonstrated a clear lack of ability in this regard.

Apparently, our disagreement lies in this: You see an Obama who wants to do good for the US and is failing miserably. I see an Obama who wants to destroy the US and is succeeding wildly.

We'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

35 posted on 06/01/2012 7:28:15 PM PDT by kevao
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To: kevao; CharacterCounts
No way Obama could have wrought this much destruction upon our country in 3.5 years if he were incompetent. No, the guy knows exactly what he's doing and is very good at it.

I disagree. He is incompetent and stupid to boot. However, he is good at following orders, probably orders from Soros or others very like him. He has displayed his stupidity on too many occasions for him to be anything but a useful idiot to the left. He has followed the script and done a great job for ruining a once great country, but it wasn't his mind doing the planning. The teleprompters are a dead giveaway on just how stupid he is, plus the fact he hid his grades from the public.

36 posted on 06/01/2012 7:59:43 PM PDT by calex59
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To: colorado tanker
I really think we will be looking at a landslide rejection of the incompetent socialist jerk. If that happens it is conceivable California could turn red.

The Slave Party would discover Zero's ineligibility before they let that happen. Trump might be the perfect foil by which to blame Republicans and keep the black vote on the plantation. Zero steps aside and Hillary! takes the money to run.

Frankly, I think the Clintonoids are setting Romney up for it, by getting Republicans to focus their minimal media access on Obama, rather than "Democrat policies."

37 posted on 06/01/2012 8:42:28 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party Switcheroo, Hillary! in 2012. It could happen.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

I wouldn’t be to sure. There are more mormons in California than in any other state.


38 posted on 06/01/2012 9:04:21 PM PDT by proudpapa
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To: colorado tanker; RobinMasters

California is like a big watermelon, all red inside, with a thin blue rind.

The economy here stinks.

Watch what happens.


39 posted on 06/01/2012 9:07:41 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: OrangeHoof

You are dead on!! Fools gold spent chasing nothing! Leave it, like a barren field grazed by “skinny asses” until nothing is left. Bet your last dollar, US tax payer bail-out is second term “O-nuffin” priority. The last 20 year exodus drained any chance. 1990-1998, Mountain View - miss the weather.


40 posted on 06/01/2012 10:50:34 PM PDT by RetAF_fedUP (No moral value held dear by the American people obliges public servants ever to sacrifice innocents)
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To: thecodont

It’d be nice if CA came to its senses. Maybe the gay crap is what turns her around.


41 posted on 06/01/2012 11:08:02 PM PDT by txhurl (AB would vote for Scott Walker.)
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To: mick; OwenKellogg
This one?


42 posted on 06/02/2012 12:36:09 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: RobinMasters

43 posted on 06/02/2012 1:01:51 AM PDT by xp38
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To: thecodont
Mittens is Nixon II. We could have had a Reagan II but the country club Republicans didn't want to lose Congressional seats. It's where the crony capitalism take place. Mittens was groomed from an early age as a crony capitalist so he is their perfect choice.


44 posted on 06/02/2012 3:51:58 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: thecodont

Yea !! That’s the one....LOL.....thanks.


45 posted on 06/02/2012 7:19:14 AM PDT by mick (Central Banker Capitalism is NOT Free Enterprise)
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