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Arab League requests UN action against Syria
Reuters ^ | Friday, June 1, 2012 | Marwa Awad

Posted on 06/01/2012 6:23:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

The head of the Arab League has asked the U.N. Security Council to boost the size of a U.N. mission in Syria and give it expanded powers to protect people following a surge in violence there, according to a letter leaked to media outlets on Friday.

Images of the bloodied bodies of children and others massacred in the city of Houla in attacks blamed on President Bashar al-Assad's forces have shocked the world and highlighted the failure of a 6-week-old U.N.-backed ceasefire plan to stop the violence in the 14-month uprising against Assad's rule.

Nabil Elaraby, secretary-general of the Arab League, condemned the attacks in a letter to the Security Council...

Elaraby, who has said the violence was intended to undercut a truce brokered by international mediator Kofi Annan that never took hold, is struggling to keep alive Annan's six-point peace plan and avert full-scale civil war in Syria...

Security Council diplomats in New York said they received the letter, although it was not immediately clear how they would react.

Elaraby's suggestion of giving the U.N. mission the power "to take the necessary measures to protect Syrian civilians" might not be acceptable to Russia, which has a veto on the 15-nation council.

That is similar to language the council used last year to authorize military intervention in Libya, which Russia did not veto but has criticized ever since. Russia has vowed to prevent Syria from becoming another Libya, where it says NATO air strikes provided support to rebels and led to "regime change."

It was also not clear whether the Syrian government would consent to an expansion of the mission, known as UNSMIS, or allow it to be armed, which would make the monitors more like peacekeepers than unarmed observers.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; Israel; Russia; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: arableague; france; germany; israel; jordan; lebanon; libya; nabilelaraby; nato; russia; syria; turkey; unitedkingdom; unsmis; waronterror
The head of the Arab League asks the United Nations Security Council to boost the size of a UN mission in Syria and give it expanded powers to protect people. Photo: REUTERS [Jerusalem Post article]

The head of the Arab League asks the United Nations Security Council to boost the size of a UN mission in Syria and give it expanded powers to protect people. Photo: REUTERS

1 posted on 06/01/2012 6:23:27 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

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2 posted on 06/01/2012 6:25:13 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
tell The head of the Arab League to take care of its own affairs and not ask the infidel to come and die for them
3 posted on 06/01/2012 6:37:10 PM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: SunkenCiv

In Australia, SBS News service is showing repeated segments in which locals from the village who identify themselves as sunni, are identifying the attackers as Shia from a nearby village, within sight of Houla. They are seen and heard to be describing what the attackers did, what they shouted, what they wore, what slogans and/or identifying marks they had on their foreheads.

Are you NOT seeing any of that in the US?


4 posted on 06/01/2012 6:45:24 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: SunkenCiv

And eventually they will ask the blue helmets to “intervene” regarding Israel and the Palestinians.


5 posted on 06/01/2012 6:57:14 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Fred Nerks

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
In Australia, SBS News service is showing repeated segments in which locals from the village who identify themselves as sunni, are identifying the attackers as Shia from a nearby village, within sight of Houla. They are seen and heard to be describing what the attackers did, what they shouted, what they wore, what slogans and/or identifying marks they had on their foreheads.

Are you NOT seeing any of that in the US?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Of course not. Following a political correct version it was a government forces who did all the slaughter.


6 posted on 06/01/2012 7:26:45 PM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: cunning_fish

And if the sunni in the village took a page out of Arafat’s playbook, then there’s no way of knowing who the attackers were, it’s islam after all and they all died for the cause...another hundred martyrs. Allah Akbar!

I hope Putin continues to say no way. It was bad enough watching NATO destroy Lybia. Israel is the target imo and blue berets in the streets of American cities is zero’s dream.


7 posted on 06/01/2012 7:39:35 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Oh yeah, send in the UN...considering every major UN intervention has the troops there either looking feckless and helpless (The Pakistani experience in Somalia or the UN peacekeeping force in Lebanon) asking the UN for help is kinda pointless, but me thinks the Arab League is probably asking them as they know what the other alternative is...Israel or Turkey ends this pretty soon on their own accord.

Israel doesn’t want this spreading into Lebanon, and Lebanon’s pretty fragile politically right now. There’s already been some early fighting on their side of the border, and Lebanon does have a history, as well as their major backer is falling apart fast. What happens when all that comes apart? The Israelis will be left with some very unpalatable options.


8 posted on 06/01/2012 9:39:36 PM PDT by Braak (The US Military, the real arms inspectors!)
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To: Braak

Lebanon isn’t politically fragile, there is no Lebanese gov’t per se because of the Iranian proxies that occupy part of the country. Syria has its fingers in to some extent but Syria’s troops were finally pulled out due to pressure by the Lebanese and the international community, after thirty years of Syrian occupation of part of the country. The number of Lebanese who aren’t anti-Israel is small on a good day; a partitioned and divided Lebanon has led to years of attacks, while the unity Christian/Muzzie regime prior to the mid-1970s meant a quiet border. That regime was destroyed by the PLO.


9 posted on 06/02/2012 3:15:11 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Fred Nerks

I doubt it. And obviously there’s plenty of FINOs who don’t want to see it as well as their comrades on the left. Thanks Fred Nerks.


10 posted on 06/02/2012 3:17:08 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv; bill1952
I agree with bill: tell The head of the Arab League to take care of its own affairs and not ask the infidel to come and die for them -- they will then turn on the infidels like in Libya and say "oh, we didn't ask for THAT."

the Arab league don't want a non-Sunni, secular government like Syria's to survive

What the West should do is ensure that Assad STAYS and the Al-qaida backed sunnis are shut out of power. This will separate Syria from the Arab league and give us a devil we know rather than a devil we don't.

11 posted on 06/02/2012 3:53:46 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: F15Eagle

Even the UN isn’t that stupid.


12 posted on 06/02/2012 4:55:21 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Cronos; bill1952

The Syrian regime isn’t secular, it’s Alawite/Shiite, and allied with Russia and Iran, both of which are long-term enemies of the US.


13 posted on 06/02/2012 4:56:13 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

The U.N. bases in Lebanon were a staging area for huge caches of Russian military weapons designed to supply a very large invasion force in the 1980’s.


14 posted on 06/02/2012 4:59:50 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: SunkenCiv

Why doesn’t the Arab League send troops of its own? This is an Arab fight isn’t it? Why involve infidels?


15 posted on 06/02/2012 6:45:50 AM PDT by MasterGunner01 (11)
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To: MasterGunner01

moozulms killing moozlums. Just what is the problem?


16 posted on 06/02/2012 6:50:03 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: hal ogen

I really don’t know why there’s a problem here. Whenever Muslims got tired of killing Christians and Jews, they’ve killed each other for the last 1,400 years. I don’t get what all the posturing is about.


17 posted on 06/02/2012 7:00:12 AM PDT by MasterGunner01 (11)
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To: MasterGunner01

The Arab League seeks an international imprimatur on the intervention; member states of the A.L. don’t have large standing armies, and those which have decent-sized ones don’t necessarily have very good ones. The Syrian army, for all its failings, probably is best in the Arab world, with Jordan second only due to the equipment available to the Syrians. Of course, we should reflect on the 1973 Arab War on Israel, and how despite all the advantages the Syrians enjoyed, they still lost nearly 1000 tanks.


18 posted on 06/02/2012 8:16:37 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
The fact remains this is an internal Arab squabble. So, for all you Arab League folks, you should take care of your own houses and do not get the Infidels to do your heavy lifting. If you're not willing to do anything about it, then stop bloviating because it gets really tiresome.
19 posted on 06/03/2012 9:35:11 AM PDT by MasterGunner01 (11)
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The door to Dr. Mousab Azzawi's clinic, on the Mediterranean coast of Syria, was always open to anyone who needed help. But, operating in the heartland of the feared Shabiha militia, there were some patients the doctor would have preferred not to treat. "They were like monsters," said Dr. Azzawi, who worked in Latakia. "They had huge muscles, big bellies, big beards. They were all very tall and frightening, and took steroids to pump up their bodies. I had to talk to them like children, because the Shabiha likes people with low intelligence. But that is what makes them so terrifying -- the combination of brute strength and blind allegiance to the regime." As President Bashar al-Assad's country continues its savage slide towards full-blown civil war, the violent, dark and secretive world of the Shabiha is coming out into the open. Nine days ago, 108 people were butchered by the Shabiha in the town of Houla. The pro-Assad thugs went through the village, house to house, and slit the throats of anyone they came across -- including 49 children. Exactly a week later, the Shabiha pulled 12 factory workers off a bus in the town of Qusayr, 40 miles to the south; tied their hands behind their backs, and shot them in the head. ... The world is learning just how bloodthirsty the Shabiha can be. But inside Syria, their capacity for hideous brutality has long been known. "Even before the revolution, any time there was unrest they would go out into the streets and stop it for the government," said Selma, who comes from a prominent Alawite family ... "They would just break people's arms and legs. They would fight for Bashar to the death. It is natural -- they have to defend their sect." -- The Shabiha: Inside Assad's death squads

20 posted on 06/03/2012 11:48:48 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv; bill1952
I beg to differ. Alawites are considered heretics by Shias as well as Sunnis. Also, it safeguards Christians and Druze and it does not have Islamic law unlike Pakistan or Saudia etc.

The women go with their heads uncovered in Damascus, there are no religious police and Christians are free to practise their faith without persecution

it is allied with Russia who see it as a counterweight to Turkey and Saudia. It is allied with Iran to counter the evils of Saudia

Need I remind you that all of the terrorist attacks on the US have been by Sunnis? the majority of terrorist attacks in the world, including on israel have been by Sunnis?

Furthermore, it is preferable to have the devil that you know, Assad, rather than a rag-tag bunch of devils that would replace him -- note: he's bad, but he's not as evil as the alternative.

21 posted on 06/03/2012 11:49:15 PM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: SunkenCiv; F15Eagle

doesn’t matter if the UN is stupid or not. If the Arab league (despots and theocrats all) see that they can get their way by calling in the UN, why won’t they get UN blue-helmets in? Of course the US would object to that and prevent it, just as Russia and China are preventing the Al-Qaeda/Saudi backed Moslem brotherhood from winning in Syria.


22 posted on 06/03/2012 11:56:10 PM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: SunkenCiv
All that you describe is perfect they have to defend their sect. -- let the Alawi's fight against the Sunnis. Let the Sunnis fight the Shia's -- it's all good for us. Finally it's best if the Alawi's and Shia win -- they're the minority and they'll keep the majority sunni in check.
23 posted on 06/04/2012 12:04:18 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Cronos

Assad’s new constitution for Syria (1973) — “Article 3(1) declares that religion of the President of the Republic shall be Islam. Article 3(2) declares Islamic jurisprudence a main source of legislation.” Lower courts are split by sect.

http://www.law.emory.edu/ifl/legal/syria.htm

The Assad dynasty has safeguarded Christians the same way protection-selling mobsters protect business owners. No Christians are ever safe under any Muzzie-run regime. They need to take their own safety seriously, either by arming themselves and fighting back, or by getting the hell out.

There are those in each mosque who consider everyone else to be heretical, but Alawites are Shiites, period.

The Druze are also a branch of the Shiites, and even they regard one of their own founders as a heretic. They live apart, and go around armed, numbering a couple of million worldwide, almost all living in the Middle East, it sez here 700,000 in Syria alone.

Need I remind you that Russian ally Syria blew up the Marines in Lebanon, and that the USSR/Russia created the worldwide terror movement, including the entire modern jihadist movement, then later had it bite them in the ass, even as they continue to support it?

The best outcome will be a Syrian civil war, which is what is going on now, but it’s not nearly bloody enough yet. Knocking off an ally of Russia is pretty much always a good thing, as it would be in Iran, Venezuela, Cuba, Nicaragua, and elsewhere.


24 posted on 06/04/2012 5:25:08 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
Assad's new consitution may declare it -- but Christians are not tried under Sharia law.

in contrast Christians and hindus in Pakistan are tried under Sharia law and if Assad's opponents win then Sharia, STRICT sharia law will be implemented

The Assad dynasty has safeguarded Christians the same way protection-selling mobsters protect business owners. --> true, but Assad's opponents won't even do that, they will kill the Christians straight away.

They need to take their own safety seriously, either by arming themselves and fighting back, or by getting the hell out. -- and these people have lived there 2000 years. Is it so easy to take about getting the heck out? No.

There are those in each mosque who consider everyone else to be heretical, but Alawites are Shiites, period. -- not really. Alawite belief is far from Shia belief. Shias will consider Bohri's and Ismailis as Shia, but not Alawis -- and this is not the elite or even most, but nearly all Shias who consider Alawis as heretics -- even non-monotheists

The Druze are also a branch of the Shiites -- the Druze are also not a branch of the Shia's -- they may be classified as Shia, but their beliefs are not, except for touching upon Imams Hussein and Ali.

25 posted on 06/04/2012 5:46:33 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: SunkenCiv
Need I remind you that Russian ally Syria blew up the Marines in Lebanon, and that the USSR/Russia created the worldwide terror movement, including the entire modern jihadist movement, then later had it bite them in the ass, even as they continue to support it?

That's false -- the hizbullah did it, not Syria. Yes, a technicality as they got their weapons from Syria and may have been following Syrian orders, but let's be clear, the suicide bombing was done by hizb'allah

In contrast, look at the killings by Sunnis and realize that THAT is where our enemies come from -- Saudia and pakistan.

The best outcome is for Assad to kill as many sunni jihadis as possible and then be a thorn in the side of the Saudi world. This then splits the islamic world into the Sunnis versus non-Sunnis.

26 posted on 06/04/2012 5:50:49 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Cronos

Syria ran Lebanon at that time, and the Hizzies were given the assignment. ALL Moslems attack us, and everyone else (including each other and members of their own families) all the time. Assad’s Russia’s ally, and it’s obvious that’s the reason you support him.


27 posted on 06/04/2012 6:33:18 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Cronos

Funny thing, there are Christians in the opposition. I suppose that’s because Assad has so many shills in the opposition? Appeals of lower court decision result in everyone winding up in a single higher judiciary system.

Yes, the Druze are Shiites, but they’re a 1000 year old branch.

Yes, the Alawites are Shiites, but they originated as an ethnic branch of Shia Islam. The unified caliphate was an off-again, on-again thing as a consequence of nationalities splitting into separate entities with different religious leadership.


28 posted on 06/04/2012 6:49:46 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
Assad’s Russia’s ally, and it’s obvious that’s the reason you support him.

Don't jump to conclusions. I don't support the Russian government for much.

I support the lesser evil in Syria -- and that's Assad. He's evil, as I said before, but not as evil as the alternative.

keeping that in mind, it's better to have the devil you know rather than the devil you don't.

29 posted on 06/04/2012 7:17:35 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: SunkenCiv

err... no, Alawi beliefs are not Shia — they believe in the Trinity, they celebrate their version of the Eucharist, Christmas etc.


30 posted on 06/04/2012 7:20:10 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Cronos

No, they do not, but thanks for the belly laugh.


31 posted on 06/05/2012 6:10:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Hardly a convincing retort. Alawi do believe in a Trinity — it probably isn’t the same as what we Christians believe in, but that’s one of the many reasons Shia’s say they are heretics. Would be good to check the reactions of most Shia’s to Alawite religion


32 posted on 06/06/2012 2:02:56 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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