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Why Can't Israel Name Its Own Capital?
CNS news ^ | June 2, 2012 | Ken Blackwell and Bob Morrison

Posted on 06/02/2012 1:57:28 PM PDT by rhema

The Obama administration refuses, time and again, to say that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel. Victoria Nuland, speaking from the State Department, recently repeated over and over that the status of Jerusalem is subject to final status negotiations. Israel thus becomes the only country recognized by the U.S. that is not allowed to name its own capital. But the U.S. recognizes Germany’s capital. It’s Berlin. This is most curious.

The United States, in organizing the United Nations in 1945, required that only those nations that had declared war on Germany could be members. President Roosevelt told Stalin and Churchill at Yalta that he had written to the presidents of the Latin American states urging them to declare war on Germany (Yalta: The Price of Peace, by S.M. Plokhy, p. 194) We did not require that they declare war on Japan, too, since the USSR by agreement would only declare war on that Asian Empire ninety days after Germany surrendered.

With Nazi Germany’s surrender on May 8, 1945, the capital city of Berlin was divided into four Zones of Occupation. In 1949, Bonn was recognized as the capital of West Germany when Britain, France and the U.S. combined their Zones and supported a free and democratic German state. Bonn served honorably as the capital of that staunch Western ally from 1949 to 1999.

After the Fall of the Wall, East and West Germany were reunited in 1990 and the German Bundestag voted to transfer the nation’s capital back to Berlin. The U.S. State Department never hesitated. Our embassy, and every other embassy, packed up and moved from Bonn to Berlin.

Compare this with Jerusalem. American politicians have promised over and over to move the U.S. Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. The Israelis name Jerusalem as their capital in their laws, in their history, in their prayers, in their hearts. And yet, the U.S. Embassy remains in Tel Aviv and Obama spokespersons resist calling Jerusalem the capital of Israel. The Obama administration insists that the Israelis must negotiate for their own capital.

Negotiate with whom? Not Jordan. Not Syria. Not Egypt. Not Saudi Arabia. Presumably, they mean with the Arabs of Palestine. That means the former Palestinian Liberation Organization, or PLO. Or, as it is known in Arabic, Fatah. Or, if they ever hold an election on the West Bank, the openly terrorist outfit, Hamas. Hamas is pledged to the destruction of Israel. (Fatah could not get billions in U.S. aid dollars if it openly called for the destruction of Israel, so it simply publishes maps of “Palestine” that show no Israel. The Fatah leaders dedicate public squares to suicide bombers who murder Israelis—and they still cash their U.S. taxpayer checks.)

What connection is there between Jerusalem and Berlin? The late Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al Husseini, spent World War II in Berlin, helping Hitler. He managed to get out of the city before it fell to the Russians. He returned to the Middle East, where he continued his calls for annihilation of the Jews. His great work was continued by his nephew, Yassir Arafat, the founder and promoter of the PLO--whose objective was unvaryingly the elimination of Israel. Offered 97% of the land he claimed by the Ehud Barak government of Israel in 2000, in a Clinton-backed deal, Arafat instead launched another intifada—a revolt of stone-throwing teens.

Instead of giving the Israelis the same goodwill and encouragement we gave to democratic, peaceful Germany, the Obama administration bitterly denounces Israel for building houses for Jews in Jerusalem. This administration, as Rep. Trent Franks (R-Ariz.) has noted, denounces Israel more fiercely for building homes than it has denounced Iran for building nuclear weapons.

President Obama took the occasion of his trip to Indonesia to launch a blistering criticism of Prime Minister Netanyahu’s government of Israel. From Jakarta, his boyhood home, Mr. Obama deplored Jews building homes in their own capital city. He spoke from a city which no Jew can even visit!

Jews have an expression, shanda fur die goyim, which variously translates as a shame before the nations or something done by a Jew that embarrasses the Jewish community before non-Jews.

The Obama policy toward Jerusalem must be a shanda for all Americans. In view of history, law, and logic, it cannot be anything but shameful. We know Mr. Obama despises Winston Churchill. He threw the bust of this great friend of the Jews out into the snow when he entered the White House. But Americans should heed Churchill before demanding “final status negotiations” on the capital of Israel. He said: “Let the Jews have Jerusalem. It is they who have made it famous.”


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel
KEYWORDS: israel; jerusalem; netanyahu; obama

1 posted on 06/02/2012 1:57:40 PM PDT by rhema
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To: rhema

Evidently, if they were Indian Americans, they could.


2 posted on 06/02/2012 1:59:36 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: rhema
Jerusalem is the capital of Israel.
3 posted on 06/02/2012 2:02:23 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: rhema

Just to be clear, the Bush Administration and the Clinton Administration before it also refused to recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital. It’s a US State Department thing and the Romney Administration isn’t going to recognize it either.


4 posted on 06/02/2012 2:06:35 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: rhema

>>The Obama policy toward Jerusalem must be a shanda for all Americans.

Especially the Jews who voted for him and will vote for him again in November. Most of us here voted for Sarah Palin and the “old wrinkly dude”. We knew what Obama would do to Israel and the USA.


5 posted on 06/02/2012 2:07:25 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: rhema

The Obama administration refuses, time and again, to say that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel. Victoria Nuland, speaking from the State Department, recently repeated over and over that the status of Jerusalem is subject to final status negotiations

Obama is anti Israel...and every move He makes is in support of Islamic sides....

Because Obama is a MUSLIM....and Obama is a LIAR.


6 posted on 06/02/2012 2:14:33 PM PDT by LtKerst
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To: rhema
Why Can't Israel Name Its Own Capital?

Why Can't Israel get off the American dole?

7 posted on 06/02/2012 2:22:52 PM PDT by PatHimself
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To: PatHimself

How about we continue supporting our only ally in the Middle East, and take all the murdering moslem mfs off the dole.


8 posted on 06/02/2012 2:29:43 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: rhema

“The Obama administration insists that the Israelis must negotiate for their own capital.”

Israel should tell Obama that they do not recognize him as president.

Obama, and his corrupt tribe, can “insist” until he turns white, but I will always stand with Israel, period.


9 posted on 06/02/2012 2:33:05 PM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: rhema

The Bush Administration (”new world order” Bush, that is) also opposed Israeli building in East Jerusalem.

We’re approaching the time for this end-game. Expect a “magical” peace deal eventually.

Jerusalem will be the focus of the world in the Last Days.

When the Jews captured the city in 1967, they gave the Eastern half back to the King of Jordan, who turned it over to Yasser Arafat and the PLO in 1974 as I recall.

Betraying the Jews on Jerusalem and Israel is a very bad idea, according to God.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Zechariah%2012:1-3&version=KJV

Zechariah 12:1-3

King James Version (KJV)

12 The burden of the word of the Lord for Israel, saith the Lord, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.

2 Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.

3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.


10 posted on 06/02/2012 2:59:00 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Notice how that angle (what you said) rarely comes up. We were giving Egypt nearly as much as Israel. And the Egyptians assemble M-1’s under license in Egypt (or they did unless that changed recently) and they were working towards 240 F-16’s.

That’s a whole lot of F-16’s.


11 posted on 06/02/2012 3:04:31 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: F15Eagle

That’s a whole lot of F-16’s.

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You are correct: That is a lot of F-16s. It puts them up there in the league with Japan (in terms of numbers of fighter jets).

Caveat: Want to bet the Egyptians cannot launch more than 50% of them at any one time?

And, if they do, I wonder how many would be sent on one-way kamikaze missions?


12 posted on 06/02/2012 3:12:45 PM PDT by man_in_tx (Blowback: Faithfully farting towards Mecca five times daily!)
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To: man_in_tx

I always wondered why they wanted so many. I submitted (a couple years ago) that they eventually intended to hit Israel yet again (this was before the Arab Spring).

They also sport some of our best shells for the M-1.


13 posted on 06/02/2012 3:15:34 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: LtKerst

Final status means after Israel has given up everything else there will still be no peace because the Arabs are demanding Jerusalem.


14 posted on 06/02/2012 3:29:46 PM PDT by freedomrings69
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To: F15Eagle
Good insight.

There is also this to consider:

Luke 21:24 King James Version (KJV)

24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luk%2021:24&version=KJV
15 posted on 06/02/2012 3:51:03 PM PDT by man_in_tx (Blowback: Faithfully farting towards Mecca five times daily!)
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To: man_in_tx

Oh yes. That is definitely a major prophetical sign.

The Time of the Gentiles (I am a Gentile) is winding down.

Daniel’s 70th week must not be too far away if we can see Ezekiel 38 on the near horizon (hence the changes in Turkey, Libya, Iran, etc.).


16 posted on 06/02/2012 3:55:55 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: rhema

Because the majority of Jewish voters back the commies who hate them. self loathers get no sympathy from me. Not my problem


17 posted on 06/02/2012 4:04:06 PM PDT by MattinNJ (Romney? Really? Seriously?)
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To: PatHimself
Why Can't Israel Name Its Own Capital? Why Can't Israel get off the American dole?
Non sequitur. The Arabist State Department refused to recognize Jerusalem as capitol of Israel when we were giving Israel nothing. Meanwhile they recognize ever Arab capitol.
This is not to say that Israel should get a penny from the US. We shouldn't be funding anyone. And Israel doesn't need the 3 Billion a year. They have a GDP of over 220 Billion.
18 posted on 06/02/2012 5:40:25 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: MattinNJ
Because the majority of Jewish voters back the commies who hate them. self loathers get no sympathy from me. Not my problem
Americans in Israel vote Republican. As for American Jews I didn't realize that we represented Israel. I guess we should write off Ireland because of the Irish vote and Taiwan because of the Taiwanese vote?
19 posted on 06/02/2012 5:48:00 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: PatHimself
Why Can't Israel Name Its Own Capital? Why Can't Israel get off the American dole?

Such a correlation can only be one of two things: stupidity, or hatred of Joooooz. Which is it?
20 posted on 06/02/2012 6:14:41 PM PDT by Tzfat
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21 posted on 06/02/2012 7:03:51 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: rmlew
Yup. They get what they vote for and donate too. I would love to see America back Israel. Alas, the American Jewish voters overwhelmingly voted, and contributed to, Barack Hussein Obama. BHO promptly dismissed Bibi while his feet were on the desk. The self loathing left wing Jewish American liberals loved it and squealed with delight (I work with quite a few)as a great man like Bibi was kicked to the curb by the commie rat.

Mark Levin gets it. Jackie Mason gets it. 35% of them get it. Its not enough to save Israel.

22 posted on 06/02/2012 7:59:29 PM PDT by MattinNJ (Romney? Really? Seriously?)
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23 posted on 06/04/2012 5:12:23 PM PDT by SJackson (As a black man, you know, Barack could get shot going to the gas station, M Obama)
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To: F15Eagle; man_in_tx

IMHO, it’s a good question.

I haven’t seen a CT which well describes the reason.

I would assume it has far more to do with Masonic / Illuminati type policies. Scripturally, I can still see the stumbling stone being there, even if today’s worldly Judaism declared Israel’s capital as Jerusalem and all others accepted it.

I suspect it has more to do with the mystery of iniquity facing the mystery of the blindness of Israel and neither can get along, manifesting how until both turn to accept God’s Plan through faith in Christ, neither will ever produce a lasting peace.


24 posted on 06/04/2012 6:03:13 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: MattinNJ
Its not enough to save Israel

Don't worry about it. God is going to save Israel, whatever the US of a thinks or does.

25 posted on 06/06/2012 6:24:27 AM PDT by chesley (God's chosen intrument - the trumpet)
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To: Cvengr; F15Eagle

Interesting thoughts. Thank you for sharing them.


26 posted on 06/10/2012 3:36:39 PM PDT by man_in_tx (Islam is a Hate Crime. (Blowback: Faithfully farting towards Mecca five times daily!))
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