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Americans Have No Idea How Few Gay People There Are
The Atlantic ^ | May 31 2012, 2:17 PM ET | Garance Franke-Ruta

Posted on 06/02/2012 4:53:40 PM PDT by Wagonboy

Surveys show a shockingly high fraction think a quarter of the country is gay or lesbian, when the reality is that it's probably less than 2 percent.

(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; homosexualagends; kenyanbornmuzzie; swrdswllwngsdshw
It's amazing how such a small handfull can drive such a large narrative of the culture and politics. -Wb
1 posted on 06/02/2012 4:53:46 PM PDT by Wagonboy
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To: Wagonboy

This appeared in teh The Atlantic?


2 posted on 06/02/2012 4:59:37 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Wagonboy
Well they can not reproduce......all Gay's start with a heterosexual act...ironic
3 posted on 06/02/2012 5:00:31 PM PDT by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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To: Wagonboy
20-25% of the characters I see on TV and movies are gay - hence it must be the same proportion in the population - right?

Also the gay characters are the most noble, wise, honest and in every way the very best people - this must be true elsewhere - right?

4 posted on 06/02/2012 5:00:37 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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5 posted on 06/02/2012 5:04:58 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Wagonboy
There are no gays, only homosexuals.

And they are most certainly not gay.

And they have no more money than any other demographic.

Probably even less, since they spend so much of it on psychiatrists, drugs, booze and medications.

6 posted on 06/02/2012 5:08:22 PM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: Last Dakotan

“... 20-25% of the characters I see on TV and movies are gay”.

Ding, ding, ding, ding... we have a winner. You are absolutely right. Television shows and movies somewhat started slow with the introduction of gay characters. However, many, many shows now have a steady gay (or lesbian) character. You are right.. they are always funny, loyal, kind etc... Hollywood/New York portrays them as “folks you would love to live next door to”.


7 posted on 06/02/2012 5:09:00 PM PDT by momtothree
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To: Wagonboy

How nice it was to come of age in the 1950s and early 1960s when the homosexuals were firmly in the closet, where they belonged. At the time I did not realize how good it was for me to grow up in such an environment.


8 posted on 06/02/2012 5:16:33 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: Army Air Corps

This could be a sign that the narrative is about to change — that it’s no longer beneficial to homosexual activists (or the rest of the Left) for normal folks to believe that homosexuals are as ubiquitous as they’ve spent the past three decades trying to appear.


9 posted on 06/02/2012 5:17:33 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: Wagonboy

They are a very small percentage, but are organized, insistent, loud, narcissistic and as they don’t have to support kids or pass wealth to future generations, have money available to fund their pressure group , plus buy politicians.

If they weren’t in my face demanding attention and favors, I would admire the fact a lot of them are creative, focused on success, artistic and good money makers. I do not like that some of them a predators on youths and try to recruit them into the homosexual/lesbian life.


10 posted on 06/02/2012 5:19:15 PM PDT by RicocheT (Eat the rich only if you're certain it's your last meal)
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To: momtothree

I used to watch “House Hunters” on tv. No more, about every third or forth couple are queers. They want me to believe that’s the norm. All it really makes me believe is, I believe I’ll watch another channel.


11 posted on 06/02/2012 5:20:37 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Obama versus Romney? Cyanide versus arsenic.)
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To: Last Dakotan

If alot of people who support them really thought about what they do when they have sex they might have second thoughts about it. They are walking BUG incubators.


12 posted on 06/02/2012 5:24:15 PM PDT by ABN 505
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To: Graybeard58

I have noticed that, too. Use to be a great show... couples or singles finding a home. I have seen the “new” couples as two gals or two guys. The guys are the “lisping, weak wristed ones”, too. HGTV, IMHO, has always had a large % of gays. If you think about it, five or ten years back... you could name the shows with them. Now you have to think about what shows DON’T have them.


13 posted on 06/02/2012 5:28:42 PM PDT by momtothree
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To: Wagonboy
It's amazing how such a small handfull can drive such a large narrative of the culture and politics

It's not really amazing. A small but well organized group of people can start a revolution - and often win.

Those groups of people today are called "parties," but it doesn't mean that the group must be large. The group has to appear large, though - either by numbers, or by political influence, or by strength of its weapons - or by acceptance (if not by support) of large segments of population.

Ultimately, those LGBT issues only serve as a platform on which new politicians can stand and proclaim that they are there to defend interests of this here oppressed minority. The society then immediately soils its collective pants and gives that politician all the power that he asks for, only to avoid the accusation of that ultimate, unspeakable sin of not being politically correct (or democratic, or tolerant, or whatever the word of the day is.)

14 posted on 06/02/2012 5:28:42 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: Wagonboy
It's amazing how such a small handfull can drive such a large narrative of the culture and politics.

It's not just them, but also the lefties who have sided with them, that give them their clout.

15 posted on 06/02/2012 5:34:09 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (With choices like Palin, Cain, and Bachmann, what could go wrong? Now we know.)
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To: OldPossum

I miss the days when it was illegal to be homosexual. I figure it is only a matter of time before TV shows that 10% of the population practices necrophilia, and ALL of them are witty, wise, and kind.


16 posted on 06/02/2012 5:41:35 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (A conservative can't please a liberal unless he jumps in front of a bus or off of a cliff)
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To: momtothree

I had joked to my wife in the past that HGTV was ESPN for gay men....apparently I wasn’t that far off....


17 posted on 06/02/2012 5:42:54 PM PDT by coolbreeze (giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teen-age boys.)
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To: Graybeard58; momtothree

YES!!!

I used to enjoy both HGTV, DIY, etc. Now I very, very rarely watch them...they’ve been invaded by “life partners”.


18 posted on 06/02/2012 5:44:36 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (We may die, but DISCO LIVES FOREVER!!!)
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To: coolbreeze

That is actually a funny line! My husband wouldn’t watch it for more than five minutes and the tirade started. LOL!


19 posted on 06/02/2012 5:45:14 PM PDT by momtothree
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To: Wagonboy

Whoever lets their children watch “Glee” is helping the Sodomites spread their propaganda to the next generation.


20 posted on 06/02/2012 5:46:28 PM PDT by montag813
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

When they get their comeuppance, which is mere months from now, they won’t be able to recover from it.

Or rebuild it in the future. They had their chance to convert everybody and failed miserably.


21 posted on 06/02/2012 5:46:33 PM PDT by txhurl (AB would vote for Scott Walker.)
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To: Last Dakotan
20-25% of the characters I see on TV and movies are gay - hence it must be the same proportion in the population - right?

That's the image they want to plant in people's heads, but if images were true, the economy would be improving, 90% of the people out there would be knee-jerk liberals, and my pistol would never run out of ammo.

Also the gay characters are the most noble, wise, honest and in every way the very best people - this must be true elsewhere - right?

They never show them as some of the most screwed up and patently UNhappy people out there (and most of the ones I have seen are).

But then, television is all about images, generated to give a perception that sells things, soap, cars, ideas, whatever.

Which just means that there are a bunch of homosexuals controlling what gets put on the air, trying to sell us on the idea there are more of them than there are. I suspect the same is true with liberals and the polls, too.

That doesn't mean we have to watch it, and I won't, whenever possible.

22 posted on 06/02/2012 5:59:16 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Wagonboy
Bill Whittle's YouTube video "The Battle of Big Ideas, Part 1: CONSTRAINED vs. UNCONSTRAINED" is based on Thomas Sowell's book, "A Conflict of Vision's".

Sowell asks, "Why do Liberals & Conservatives end up diametrically opposed to each other on so many totally different issues?" He then explains the vastly different "visions" of the two groups. Another term would be "world view", as in the way one view's and understands the world around him, the framework upon which to hang all of the observations & ideas which we call Reality.

One definition of Wisdom would be, "To see the world, people and events as God sees them." Those who would disagree vehemently with this definition fight tooth and nail to destroy anything which agrees with and promotes this idea of Wisdom.

Looking at it this way makes it easier to understand why Homosexuals, Gaia worshipers, abortionists, the sexually unrestrained, "recreational" drug promoters, militant atheists and serious Islamist all give each other a free pass ("the enemy of my enemy is my friend") or all show up at the same protests.

The Islamists tend to be far more exclusive, but all of the other crowds are always mutually supportive.

23 posted on 06/02/2012 6:05:15 PM PDT by BwanaNdege (Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: Greysard
"It's not really amazing. A small but well organized group of people can start a revolution - and often win.

Those groups of people today are called "parties," but it doesn't mean that the group must be large. The group has to appear large, though - either by numbers, or by political influence, or by strength of its weapons - or by acceptance (if not by support) of large segments of population."

You have the right idea....but let me make it simple. They have the perceived "power" and "numbers" and image due to one thing, and one thing only: support of Hollywood. No question that Hollywood has more than its share of homosexuals. When you own the eyeballs of the nation, that gives you tremendous power to further any agenda you choose.

Of course, too many stupid Americans have swallowed it hook, line, and sinker.

Take the media back....we take back the country.

24 posted on 06/02/2012 6:05:27 PM PDT by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: N. Theknow

I prefer to call them “angries.” Nearly every one I meet is.


25 posted on 06/02/2012 6:31:17 PM PDT by fwdude
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To: Wagonboy

They keep pushing with the propaganda hoping they will be accepted as normal by mainstream America —which they will never be PERIOD

If fact they themselves probably will never believe it

Sad situation for society and the homosexuals both


26 posted on 06/02/2012 6:42:48 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: N. Theknow
We're in the same valley as Palm Springs, which proudly proclaims to be fruitier than San Francisco -- Mayor and bulk of city council suck things other than their fingers.

"Pride" parades monthly, complete with the feathery boas....yet the contingent feels they have strength in numbers, so they howl to the rooftops.

Empowered...enabled.

27 posted on 06/02/2012 6:47:21 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (A conservative, a liberal and a moderate walked into a bar; barkeep said "Hi Mitt")
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To: Wagonboy; All
Someone tell me if I am misreading the article, but it seems as though Ms. Franke-Ruta is saying, essentially, this:

"Since there are so few homosexuals, it is no big deal to allow them to marry. Sure, homosexual groups lied about their numbers in the past, but that was just to get heterosexuals to ACCEPT their behavior...now that homosexuality is de-stigmatized, the homosexual groups acknowledge they are less than 5% of the population. So let's just let them marry, it is no big deal."

Now the above is just MY interpretation of what the article implies. Am I off base?

28 posted on 06/02/2012 6:49:47 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Wagonboy

There are no inherently homosexual people. There are just a few people who act as if they’re homosexual, often for political reasons.


29 posted on 06/02/2012 6:55:19 PM PDT by Tau Food (Tom Hoefling for President - 2012)
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To: Wagonboy

Maybe now the major minority for set-asides and preferences in hiring by the Federal Government should be: Male, White, Christian, Hetrosexual. If you fit this description then you should be hired immediately and subjected to the doctrination of acceptance practiced by the Federal Government. Of course, you will be expected to work harder, not get pregnant or AIDS, and to accept being passed over for promotions based on qualifications due to the fact that blacks get a percentage of promotions, females as well, and any other type of person on the Federal Checklist where you self identify. If you are Gay, then you can get family member preferences for your partner and insurance, housing, and they get a hiring preference too. BINGO with three letters - G-A-Y.


30 posted on 06/02/2012 6:59:26 PM PDT by Jumper
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To: Wagonboy

Go visit Saugatuck Michigan. You’ll think the entire planet is gay.


31 posted on 06/02/2012 7:03:44 PM PDT by CommieCutter
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To: Tau Food

“There are no inherently homosexual people. There are just a few people who act as if they’re homosexual, often for political reasons.”

Queer is the only “Minority!” group you can choose to be a part of.


32 posted on 06/02/2012 7:25:26 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: momtothree; Smokin' Joe
Hollywood/New York portrays them as “folks you would love to live next door to”.

Its all propaganda. Goebbels would be so proud.

Of course the ones most easily swayed by this are the young and naive.

33 posted on 06/02/2012 7:28:22 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Mr Rogers

Re your post #16: very good!!


34 posted on 06/02/2012 7:30:21 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: Wagonboy

Someone once told me it was all about increasing their numbers so that they would have more partners available to choose from. This person also told me, that most are unattractive to each other and if they can increase their numbers by making it appear normal then they may eventually have more partners to choose from.


35 posted on 06/02/2012 8:04:46 PM PDT by This I Wonder32460
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To: Wagonboy

I think there may be less than two percent. It is highly in Gay political interest to exaggerate their numbers.


36 posted on 06/02/2012 8:27:45 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Wagonboy

...and what really bites (a little gay lingo) is that this propaganda has its real effect on people that don’t spend much time keeping up to speed. These are the people that run corporations and decide to cater to this phantom 25% of the population...such as JC Penny.


37 posted on 06/02/2012 8:53:00 PM PDT by BobL
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To: Wagonboy

What? They’re not eveywhere? Not behind every bush? Well, behind bushes maybe, but, not everyone.


38 posted on 06/02/2012 9:29:17 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: Wagonboy
How many Freepers ever saw Torchwood?

I really wanted to like this show--a spinoff of Dr. Who

But in Season #1, 4-5 of the 13 episodes had gay themes in them. I was O.K., with the first two--but then it got to be too much. In fact, of the regular cast, a majority were involved in some homosexual experience during that season.

Then there was the abysmal Alexander the Great film a few years back. Gack.

And why did D.C. Comics make Green Lantern gay in the newest "reset?" Why not just invent a new gay superhero instead of changing an existing one?

39 posted on 06/02/2012 9:31:47 PM PDT by Lysandru
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To: Wagonboy

Well, look at where the big impression comes from: the families (if they resemble healthy families at all any more) that sponsor most of the big media companies. It’s all about them and their spoiled offspring all the time.


40 posted on 06/02/2012 9:38:46 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: Wagonboy

Totally. I get sick of it. Those people have everything yet it is never enough.


41 posted on 06/02/2012 9:49:15 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Last Dakotan
Of course the ones most easily swayed by this are the young and naive.

Especially if they are raised by idiots who say things like "...not that there is anything wrong with that..." in an effort to be politically correct.

Yes, there is a whole lot wrong with 'that'.

42 posted on 06/03/2012 1:39:41 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: RightOnline
Take the media back....we take back the country.

Precisely.

43 posted on 06/03/2012 1:45:39 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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44 posted on 06/03/2012 6:21:10 AM PDT by narses
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To: Graybeard58
I used to watch “House Hunters” on tv. No more, about every third or forth couple are queers.

One of my non-heterosexual friends was on that show a while back. She and her partner had a baby, wanted to move into a bigger, less urban house in a friendly suburb with good schools. Funny thing, lately she's started to complain of how her (high) taxes are going to BS, some of it related to state-sponsored "diversity" activism...I welcomed her to the Tea Party.

45 posted on 06/03/2012 9:17:32 AM PDT by no-s (when democracy is displaced by tyranny, the armed citizen still gets to vote)
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To: ErnBatavia
Not to correct anyhing, just to throw my proverbial one to two cents in, especially since I still mourn not being able to do enough to have a candidate of my choosing to run for President for ONCE. Thus my long silence here at my dear old "home" on the web.

I have said, with little or no response here or elsewhere, for virtually YEARS, that the actual numbers of LGBT is in fact, in the neighborhood of 1 to 2 percent and not the vast numbers that are portrayed by the liberals.

I am of the certainty and have said it many, many times that others who so engage in such deviant behavior are in fact, searching for a titillation that exceeds normal and healthy sex. With the envelope of every portion of our lives having been pushed ... and still being pushed and moved to some outer limit ... sex has followed (or led) the way.

Now our children and grand children are being tainted by these evils.

"Hear, Oh Lord, the sound of our cry ... Hear, Oh Lord, and have mercy!

Just sayin ...
46 posted on 06/10/2012 2:18:54 PM PDT by AKA Elena (St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle! SHOULD BE OUR DAILY PRAYER!)
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