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Has Support for Gays Cost Obama the Black Vote?
Spiegelonline ^ | 5/31/2012 | Marc Hujer

Posted on 06/03/2012 1:01:15 AM PDT by bruinbirdman

Obama's declaration of support for same-sex marriage has African-American communities up in arms. Many African-Americans live in a culture that values strong masculine figures and looks down on homosexuality. Many put their faith in what their pastors say and what is written in the Bible, including the statement that marriage can only be between a man and a woman.

Pastor Dwight McKissic from Arlington, Texas, declared, "Obama has betrayed the Bible." Pastor William Owens from Memphis, Tennessee, decried what he described as "the homosexual community hijacking the civil rights movement," adding, "I did not choose to be black, and you did not choose to be white -- and homosexuals make a choice to be homosexual. So why compare what we went through with your situation? It's not the same thing; there's no comparison."

Owens is now threatening to sabotage Obama's re-election, and he and many other ministers are using their Sunday sermons to oppose Obama's support for same-sex marriage. Owens has founded an interest group of 13 African-American pastors in Tennessee to take action against Obama. They're determined to deny Obama their votes if he doesn't recant.

Many former supporters, meanwhile, sound considerably less enthusiastic these days. African-American professor Cornel West, for example,

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 06/03/2012 1:01:29 AM PDT by bruinbirdman
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In short, hell no! The Blacks will crawl over broken glass to vote for Zer0. The support for gays is Zer0’s way to get under moral Whitey’s skin.


2 posted on 06/03/2012 1:12:48 AM PDT by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: bruinbirdman

Nope. Blacks who voted for Obama will do it again this year. Blue collar White Democrats, however, might not.


3 posted on 06/03/2012 1:12:48 AM PDT by paudio (Post-racial society: When we can legitimately hire and fire a Black man without feeling guilty)
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But, what if they knew Obama was gay? And that is why he endorses gay lifestyle?

yitbos

4 posted on 06/03/2012 1:22:05 AM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: bruinbirdman

Won’t matter - nothing will - they’ll still grovel, crawl and slobber over the marxist, racist, criminal, 0bummer. Some won’t, but the majority, and all of them on the lib-dem plantation, still will. Sad but true.


5 posted on 06/03/2012 1:56:26 AM PDT by carriage_hill (All liberals & most demoncraps think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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To: paudio

I bet a few more Blacks will stay home on election day this time around, and that will likely be what it takes to get the Marxist out.


6 posted on 06/03/2012 1:59:07 AM PDT by ME-262 (We need Term Limits for the federal house and senate. We need new Bums up there.)
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To: bruinbirdman

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=61ftI9QwDvE


7 posted on 06/03/2012 2:57:34 AM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: ME-262
"I bet a few more Blacks will stay home on election day this time around, and that will likely be what it takes to get the Marxist out."

Possibly, but I think there is going to be a massive and coercive get out the vote effort by the left. The block organizers will come for you and take you to the polls and make sure that your supposedly secret ballot is cast for Obama.

8 posted on 06/03/2012 3:19:49 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: bruinbirdman

I’ve coached basketball for many years at various levels, from recreation leagues to AAU. This means I interact with many black parents, at games, on trips, banquets etc. They know my politics. Politics comes up a lot. ALL of them were for Obama four years ago.

Of the eight or ten black parents I know well, only a couple of them are still openly for Obama. The best way I can describe the rest of them is that they are embarrassed by him and want him off the stage. These are good, solid, church-going middle class blacks, for the most part. They drive decent cars and go out to eat frequently. I sensed they were embarrassed by him before the gay marriage announcement. Now they overtly express disgust, not so much with Obama, but curiously with Michelle. Many of the women abhor her. More than a few have openly admitted they will stay home in November.

Their kids hang out with, and date whites. I coach girls too. One of my white girl stars ended up marrying a black player that I also coached. The black boys date white girls, and vice-versa. We’re in a new world, folks. I bet we’ll see 90% of the black vote still go to Obama, but turnout will be way down.

In the beginning, healthcare was not on their radar. It is now. They’ve never had much to say about Obama’s foreign policy but can’t seem to find anything they like about his domestic policies. They’ve made the connection between gas prices and food prices, and Obama’s policies. Many of them have told me they don’t like Eric Holder. Hmmm. Didn’t see that one coming. They were completely polarized on Trayvon/Zimmerman, and now none of them want to talk about it.

I know this is anecdotal, the sample size is tiny, and these are not inner city blacks I’m speaking of, but I don’t believe Obama can count on monolithic allegience this time.


9 posted on 06/03/2012 3:24:01 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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Obama hasn’t delivered, and the novelty of making history isn’t there this time. In short, there’s just not going to be the same enthusiasm as there was in 2012. I suspect Obama will still get the same percentages as he did in 2008, but the overall numbers of black voters, and other traditionally Democratic groups, is likely to be down a bit. It won’t be just because of the gay issue, though it will be part of it.


10 posted on 06/03/2012 3:25:22 AM PDT by DemforBush (A Repo man is *always* intense!)
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Nope, still the same. Of course, small numbers will stay, but vast majority will march to the voting booth. For two reasons. First, racial identity. Second, government assistance. The second reason being the more important one.


11 posted on 06/03/2012 3:50:20 AM PDT by paudio (Post-racial society: When we can legitimately hire and fire a Black man without feeling guilty)
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To: wayoverontheright; A'elian' nation; All

Interesting, coach. Thanks.

Like FReeper A’elian’nation said yesterday in “The Friendless President”...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2890762/posts

“Obama has no roots in his own party. Like his Black friends say, “He was never there for the struggle,” and that applies more to the heavy democrat party lifting than the civil rights movement.”

Need more evidence?...

http://worldtravelguidevideos.com/video/pMK8NYWkB-g/Glenn-Beck-Presidential-Lies-Do-You-Know-Anybody-Like-Barack-Obama.html

HOORAY Glenn Beck!


12 posted on 06/03/2012 4:23:49 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: jonrick46

“In short, hell no! The Blacks will crawl over broken glass to vote for Zer0. The support for gays is Zer0’s way to get under moral Whitey’s skin.”
In 2008 at this point Black enthusiasm to vote was at 78%. Today it is at 78%. Anyone who thinks this Gay “marriage” issue will improve that 48% is just wrong.


13 posted on 06/03/2012 4:25:43 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: bruinbirdman
The enthusiasm & magic is gone this time around. He knows blacks aren't going to come out to vote like they did in ‘08, so he has to try to pick up more votes from other groups.
14 posted on 06/03/2012 4:43:01 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: bruinbirdman

It is more important for evil to destroy American. Obama is a servant of evil.


15 posted on 06/03/2012 4:45:40 AM PDT by bmwcyle (I am ready to serve Jesus on Earth because the GOP failed again)
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To: bruinbirdman

17+ taxpayer paid vacations haven’t cost The Black vote.
Greater Black unemployment haven’t cost him the Black vote.
Chicago style corruption will never cost the Black vote.

Obama could be Mugabe and he still would get the Black Vote.


16 posted on 06/03/2012 4:49:55 AM PDT by Cyclops08
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To: ME-262

It will not matter one bit. The one’s who do vote will still be for the color of the skin. n/s


17 posted on 06/03/2012 4:56:53 AM PDT by cameraeye (A happy kaffir!)
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To: bruinbirdman
http://www.google.com/search?q=larry+sinclair+felatio+obama+video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Lrf8DbrJH0
18 posted on 06/03/2012 5:06:52 AM PDT by goron (Revelation 13:18)
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To: jonrick46
In short, hell no! The Blacks will crawl over broken glass to vote for Zer0. The support for gays is Zer0’s way to get under moral Whitey’s skin.

Eric Holder met with Black pastors passed out the talking points and all have received their marching orders. The Black vote will be astronomical this year again.

That is why we need to get everyone for Romney.

I don't like Romney and am not excited about him, but the alternative is unthinkable.

19 posted on 06/03/2012 5:07:16 AM PDT by verga (Party like it is 1773)
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To: bruinbirdman

Hell, they’re so far up his a$$ that most would probably convert to homosexuals if he asked them - just to stick it to Whitey, ya know...


20 posted on 06/03/2012 5:10:50 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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