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Has Support for Gays Cost Obama the Black Vote?
Spiegelonline ^ | 5/31/2012 | Marc Hujer

Posted on 06/03/2012 1:01:15 AM PDT by bruinbirdman

Obama's declaration of support for same-sex marriage has African-American communities up in arms. Many African-Americans live in a culture that values strong masculine figures and looks down on homosexuality. Many put their faith in what their pastors say and what is written in the Bible, including the statement that marriage can only be between a man and a woman.

Pastor Dwight McKissic from Arlington, Texas, declared, "Obama has betrayed the Bible." Pastor William Owens from Memphis, Tennessee, decried what he described as "the homosexual community hijacking the civil rights movement," adding, "I did not choose to be black, and you did not choose to be white -- and homosexuals make a choice to be homosexual. So why compare what we went through with your situation? It's not the same thing; there's no comparison."

Owens is now threatening to sabotage Obama's re-election, and he and many other ministers are using their Sunday sermons to oppose Obama's support for same-sex marriage. Owens has founded an interest group of 13 African-American pastors in Tennessee to take action against Obama. They're determined to deny Obama their votes if he doesn't recant.

Many former supporters, meanwhile, sound considerably less enthusiastic these days. African-American professor Cornel West, for example,

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 06/03/2012 1:01:29 AM PDT by bruinbirdman
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To: bruinbirdman

In short, hell no! The Blacks will crawl over broken glass to vote for Zer0. The support for gays is Zer0’s way to get under moral Whitey’s skin.


2 posted on 06/03/2012 1:12:48 AM PDT by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: bruinbirdman

Nope. Blacks who voted for Obama will do it again this year. Blue collar White Democrats, however, might not.


3 posted on 06/03/2012 1:12:48 AM PDT by paudio (Post-racial society: When we can legitimately hire and fire a Black man without feeling guilty)
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To: paudio
But, what if they knew Obama was gay? And that is why he endorses gay lifestyle?

yitbos

4 posted on 06/03/2012 1:22:05 AM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: bruinbirdman

Won’t matter - nothing will - they’ll still grovel, crawl and slobber over the marxist, racist, criminal, 0bummer. Some won’t, but the majority, and all of them on the lib-dem plantation, still will. Sad but true.


5 posted on 06/03/2012 1:56:26 AM PDT by carriage_hill (All liberals & most demoncraps think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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To: paudio

I bet a few more Blacks will stay home on election day this time around, and that will likely be what it takes to get the Marxist out.


6 posted on 06/03/2012 1:59:07 AM PDT by ME-262 (We need Term Limits for the federal house and senate. We need new Bums up there.)
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To: bruinbirdman

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=61ftI9QwDvE


7 posted on 06/03/2012 2:57:34 AM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: ME-262
"I bet a few more Blacks will stay home on election day this time around, and that will likely be what it takes to get the Marxist out."

Possibly, but I think there is going to be a massive and coercive get out the vote effort by the left. The block organizers will come for you and take you to the polls and make sure that your supposedly secret ballot is cast for Obama.

8 posted on 06/03/2012 3:19:49 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: bruinbirdman

I’ve coached basketball for many years at various levels, from recreation leagues to AAU. This means I interact with many black parents, at games, on trips, banquets etc. They know my politics. Politics comes up a lot. ALL of them were for Obama four years ago.

Of the eight or ten black parents I know well, only a couple of them are still openly for Obama. The best way I can describe the rest of them is that they are embarrassed by him and want him off the stage. These are good, solid, church-going middle class blacks, for the most part. They drive decent cars and go out to eat frequently. I sensed they were embarrassed by him before the gay marriage announcement. Now they overtly express disgust, not so much with Obama, but curiously with Michelle. Many of the women abhor her. More than a few have openly admitted they will stay home in November.

Their kids hang out with, and date whites. I coach girls too. One of my white girl stars ended up marrying a black player that I also coached. The black boys date white girls, and vice-versa. We’re in a new world, folks. I bet we’ll see 90% of the black vote still go to Obama, but turnout will be way down.

In the beginning, healthcare was not on their radar. It is now. They’ve never had much to say about Obama’s foreign policy but can’t seem to find anything they like about his domestic policies. They’ve made the connection between gas prices and food prices, and Obama’s policies. Many of them have told me they don’t like Eric Holder. Hmmm. Didn’t see that one coming. They were completely polarized on Trayvon/Zimmerman, and now none of them want to talk about it.

I know this is anecdotal, the sample size is tiny, and these are not inner city blacks I’m speaking of, but I don’t believe Obama can count on monolithic allegience this time.


9 posted on 06/03/2012 3:24:01 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: bruinbirdman

Obama hasn’t delivered, and the novelty of making history isn’t there this time. In short, there’s just not going to be the same enthusiasm as there was in 2012. I suspect Obama will still get the same percentages as he did in 2008, but the overall numbers of black voters, and other traditionally Democratic groups, is likely to be down a bit. It won’t be just because of the gay issue, though it will be part of it.


10 posted on 06/03/2012 3:25:22 AM PDT by DemforBush (A Repo man is *always* intense!)
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To: bruinbirdman

Nope, still the same. Of course, small numbers will stay, but vast majority will march to the voting booth. For two reasons. First, racial identity. Second, government assistance. The second reason being the more important one.


11 posted on 06/03/2012 3:50:20 AM PDT by paudio (Post-racial society: When we can legitimately hire and fire a Black man without feeling guilty)
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To: wayoverontheright; A'elian' nation; All

Interesting, coach. Thanks.

Like FReeper A’elian’nation said yesterday in “The Friendless President”...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2890762/posts

“Obama has no roots in his own party. Like his Black friends say, “He was never there for the struggle,” and that applies more to the heavy democrat party lifting than the civil rights movement.”

Need more evidence?...

http://worldtravelguidevideos.com/video/pMK8NYWkB-g/Glenn-Beck-Presidential-Lies-Do-You-Know-Anybody-Like-Barack-Obama.html

HOORAY Glenn Beck!


12 posted on 06/03/2012 4:23:49 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: jonrick46

“In short, hell no! The Blacks will crawl over broken glass to vote for Zer0. The support for gays is Zer0’s way to get under moral Whitey’s skin.”
In 2008 at this point Black enthusiasm to vote was at 78%. Today it is at 78%. Anyone who thinks this Gay “marriage” issue will improve that 48% is just wrong.


13 posted on 06/03/2012 4:25:43 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: bruinbirdman
The enthusiasm & magic is gone this time around. He knows blacks aren't going to come out to vote like they did in ‘08, so he has to try to pick up more votes from other groups.
14 posted on 06/03/2012 4:43:01 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: bruinbirdman

It is more important for evil to destroy American. Obama is a servant of evil.


15 posted on 06/03/2012 4:45:40 AM PDT by bmwcyle (I am ready to serve Jesus on Earth because the GOP failed again)
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To: bruinbirdman

17+ taxpayer paid vacations haven’t cost The Black vote.
Greater Black unemployment haven’t cost him the Black vote.
Chicago style corruption will never cost the Black vote.

Obama could be Mugabe and he still would get the Black Vote.


16 posted on 06/03/2012 4:49:55 AM PDT by Cyclops08
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To: ME-262

It will not matter one bit. The one’s who do vote will still be for the color of the skin. n/s


17 posted on 06/03/2012 4:56:53 AM PDT by cameraeye (A happy kaffir!)
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To: bruinbirdman
http://www.google.com/search?q=larry+sinclair+felatio+obama+video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Lrf8DbrJH0
18 posted on 06/03/2012 5:06:52 AM PDT by goron (Revelation 13:18)
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To: jonrick46
In short, hell no! The Blacks will crawl over broken glass to vote for Zer0. The support for gays is Zer0’s way to get under moral Whitey’s skin.

Eric Holder met with Black pastors passed out the talking points and all have received their marching orders. The Black vote will be astronomical this year again.

That is why we need to get everyone for Romney.

I don't like Romney and am not excited about him, but the alternative is unthinkable.

19 posted on 06/03/2012 5:07:16 AM PDT by verga (Party like it is 1773)
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To: bruinbirdman

Hell, they’re so far up his a$$ that most would probably convert to homosexuals if he asked them - just to stick it to Whitey, ya know...


20 posted on 06/03/2012 5:10:50 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: wayoverontheright

You have good parents who are involved with their kids. Their kids participate in sports and they show up. I’ve seen it first hand myself, but in a school with kids with difficulties.

If the parents were white they ALL showed up, to support their kids. The blacks no. On parent teacher night classrooms with more black children were empty. My lib friend was convinced it was socio-economic. (They couldn’t get off work, etc) I felt it was cultural. (The Democrat mantra - it’s the schools job to teach my kid, not mine). The teacher told me the parents were either hostile towards the system and didn’t care.

Just the same, your anecdotal story is nice to hear. It shows some people think with their brain, and not their skin.


21 posted on 06/03/2012 5:17:50 AM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: bruinbirdman

“Many put their faith in what their pastors say “
If I recall, the leftist aka progressive black pastors said. God dam America.


22 posted on 06/03/2012 5:20:46 AM PDT by DMG2FUN
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To: wayoverontheright

People looking for freebies will vote for obama regardless.


23 posted on 06/03/2012 5:25:50 AM PDT by KSCITYBOY
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To: bruinbirdman
Pastor Dwight McKissic from Arlington, Texas, declared, "Obama has betrayed the Bible."

Both candidates have "betrayed the bible".

24 posted on 06/03/2012 6:03:52 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Obama versus Romney? Cyanide versus arsenic.)
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To: bruinbirdman

I wish.


25 posted on 06/03/2012 6:11:53 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: bruinbirdman

Perhaps a small percentage of them but the black vote would vote go for him no matter what. They are like sheep for the Democrat Party. Most of his policies are bad for them but that hasn’t stopped them from voting for him yet.


26 posted on 06/03/2012 6:38:02 AM PDT by Woodsman27
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To: bruinbirdman

It appears to me that Obama’s support of Homosexuality proves that a man’s sexual preference is even stronger than his racism.

Wasn’t Larry Sinclair white?


27 posted on 06/03/2012 7:06:33 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: wayoverontheright
Thanks for sharing #9. It's encouraging. From our perspective we have loads of Latino family and friends who can't stand him from the perspective of Christian faith. They cannot reconcile their most basic tenants with liberal policy...doesn't compute. Makes them natural conservatives in many cases, borderline with major doubts in the case of the more left leaning.

More than a few were raised in places that didn't permit guns, but one couple we know who were anti-gun felt compelled to buy some of late. Spent the holiday weekend trying them out. Now they are talking about going back and asking about different types of guns. I think they are hooked - lol!

28 posted on 06/03/2012 7:36:53 AM PDT by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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To: bruinbirdman
Of course they'll vote for him.

Two words: 0bama money.

29 posted on 06/03/2012 7:40:33 AM PDT by FrdmLvr (culture, language, borders)
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To: bruinbirdman

Nope! Obama will get over 90% of the black vote. If he was caught smoking crack with hookers, he’d still have their support.


30 posted on 06/03/2012 7:44:52 AM PDT by Private_Sector_Does_It_Better (I AM ANDREW BREITBART)
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To: bruinbirdman
Has Support for Gays Cost Obama the Black Vote?

From the people that I've been talking to where I grew up, they are disappointed with Obummer's decision about gay marriage. Will they vote for him? I'm not sure, they are in the same situation they were four years ago. There are where they are because they are lazy and looking for the government to provide them a better life. Not working hard!
31 posted on 06/03/2012 8:25:46 AM PDT by ForAmerica (Texas Conservative Christian Black Man!)
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