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Chicago more dangerous than Baghdad? (barf alert)
Chicago Tribune ^ | 03 june 2012 | Gerald D. Skoning

Posted on 06/03/2012 7:25:16 AM PDT by rellimpank

Ten people were killed and 42 others were wounded in shootings over the Memorial Day weekend. In Baghdad? Basra? Kabul? Kandahar?

No, right here in Chicago. Over the holiday weekend, our city was like a Wild West shooting gallery, with blood flowing in the streets.

And yet, one of the major news stories was about the desperate search for Tank, the Pomeranian who fell off a boat into the Chicago River and was later found safe on the City's North Side by good Samaritans. News

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: banglist; rkba
An angry Mayor Rahm Emanuel rants about gangbangers, the shocking availability of handguns, and promises a new police strategy to deal with the gun violence.

Meanwhile, national leaders, fearful of offending vital constituencies, pander to "right to bear arms" advocates and refuse to address the most urgent issue in urban America.

--our most urgent issue?

1 posted on 06/03/2012 7:25:24 AM PDT by rellimpank
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To: rellimpank

It looks like “the created situation” is moving along nicely.


2 posted on 06/03/2012 7:29:19 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: rellimpank

I’ve always been against gun control but animals shouldn’t own guns.


3 posted on 06/03/2012 7:29:48 AM PDT by RC2 (Buy American and support the Wounded Warrior Project whenever possible.)
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To: rellimpank; Joe Brower; marktwain

The comments section at the article are terrific. As usual, they are about 80% against the paper, and pro RKBA. (No wonder the dinosaur MSM is dying.)


4 posted on 06/03/2012 7:33:01 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: rellimpank

MORE GUN LAWS NEEDED NOW./s


5 posted on 06/03/2012 7:34:43 AM PDT by bikerman (Obama lied,economy died.)
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To: rellimpank
and refuse to address the most urgent issue in urban America.

The most urgent issue in urban America is the absence of the traditional nuclear family. This is the PRIMARY issue, and until this is addressed, efforts to address only the consequent secondary issues (violence, theft, child abuse, welfare, etc) are doomed to failure.

6 posted on 06/03/2012 7:36:47 AM PDT by bkopto (Obama and Biden merely symptoms of a more profound, systemic disease in American body politic.)
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To: rellimpank

(Meanwhile, national leaders, fearful of offending vital constituencies, pander to “right to bear arms”)

Pander? To a Constitutional Amendment?
How about not being an asshat and say follow the LAW as written by the Founding Fathers in the United States Constitution


7 posted on 06/03/2012 7:38:03 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: Travis McGee

That’s because people with common sense (often lacking in the media and academia) know that firearms are used in only 10% of violent crimes. What are the Dems and their lackeys doing about the other 90% of violent crimes? Not much.

If homeowners in Chicago and Cook County had the same Castle Doctrine as in Texas, crime would go down because criminals, including those in politics, fear law-abiding gun owners.


8 posted on 06/03/2012 7:39:14 AM PDT by 12Gauge687
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To: rellimpank

Would love to know the size of the security detail the other day when Baraq and ValJ were strolling down the street in Hyde Park.......


9 posted on 06/03/2012 7:41:28 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: nascarnation

Probably 500 officers and agents +/-.


10 posted on 06/03/2012 7:44:11 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Travis McGee
--yep--same thing happens to the Milwaukee J-S whenever they do one of the doctrinare anti-gun pieces---
11 posted on 06/03/2012 7:54:00 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: 12Gauge687

In Detroit, defensive shootings are on the rise and that’s a good thing in my book.


12 posted on 06/03/2012 7:54:51 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: rellimpank
No, right here in Chicago. Over the holiday weekend, our city was like a Wild West shooting gallery, with blood flowing in the streets.

No, it was like Chicago or Detroit or Philadelphia or Washington D.C. or any other 'rat hellhole.

13 posted on 06/03/2012 7:54:59 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: PGalt
No, right here in Chicago. Over the holiday weekend, our city was like a Wild West shooting gallery, with blood flowing in the streets.

No, it was like Chicago or Detroit or Philadelphia or Washington D.C. or any other 'rat hellhole.

You are correct. The Wild West was much more peaceable and respectful of citizens than those lawless urban zones.

14 posted on 06/03/2012 8:03:15 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Just the contract to provide lunch for that crew was a significant budget item, LOL.


15 posted on 06/03/2012 8:04:20 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: RC2

With better gun control the headline would read “42 dead and ten wounded”.


16 posted on 06/03/2012 8:08:56 AM PDT by csmusaret (I will give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.)
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To: rellimpank
Hmmmmm...a meme from this lawyer?

@Gun violence: Where's the outrage? July 10, 2009|By Gerald D. Skoning

The long 4th of July weekend featured glorious fireworks along the lakefront and deadly gunfire in inner-city neighborhoods. Chicago tallied 63 shootings, one stabbing and 11 fatal shootings.

Seems GDS has an issue with holidays.

@Question for pollsters: Why can't you call me? October 18, 2006|By Gerald D. Skoning

But neither Gallup, nor Harris, nor any of the other opinion pollsters has ever asked what I think about the president, our governor or gun control. I have strong opinions on each, but I have never been asked. There's no need to call you. It seems you've mastered, over time, taking it to the MSM to give your opinion.
17 posted on 06/03/2012 8:18:35 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: RC2

Please don’t insult animals. They don’t have the option to choose evil as humans do.


18 posted on 06/03/2012 8:19:54 AM PDT by CPO retired
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To: rellimpank

They’ve got to get our ‘protection ability’ and our ‘communication ability’ away from us.

I’d like to see the statistics on Chicago gun violence for years 2000 to 2008
just for the HOI.


19 posted on 06/03/2012 8:32:42 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (Criminaliens or Crimigrants...0bamao's people?)
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To: rellimpank

Atlanta/Detroit/Chicago - fence ‘em in, and pop some corn.


20 posted on 06/03/2012 8:43:51 AM PDT by arrdon (Never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter.)
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To: RC2

I think we should see to it that the gangbangers get more guns, and let them kill each other at will. Our only issue then will be keeping them blocked in the inner cities until they are finished.


21 posted on 06/03/2012 9:02:58 AM PDT by Quickgun (Second Amendment. The only one you can put your hands on.)
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To: arrdon

Heh, we think alike, I didn’t see your post before I posted to rc2


22 posted on 06/03/2012 9:04:58 AM PDT by Quickgun (Second Amendment. The only one you can put your hands on.)
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To: rellimpank

Rahm is Chicago’s Obama...


23 posted on 06/03/2012 9:14:00 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: rellimpank
At one time, citizens knew how to hadle these kinds of problems.

FORT GUNNYBAGS.

Our headquarters and committee rooms were at the wholesale liquor house of Truett & Jones, No. 41 Sacramento street, about a block from the water front, and embraced the block bounded by Sacramento, California, Front and Davis streets, and covered by brick buildings two stories high. The name "Fort Gunnybags" was ascribed to it on account of the gunnybags filled with sand which we piled up in a wall some six feet through and about ten feet high. This barricade was about twenty feet from the building. Guards were stationed at the passage-ways through it as well as at the stairs and doors to the buildings. On the roof was the bell (a huge 700 pounder) the taps of which brought us to arms at once. The use of this bell was tendered to the Committee by the members of the Monumental Fire Engine Company No. 6, stationed on the west side of Brenham Place, opposite the "Plaza." Our small field pieces and arms were kept on the ground floor, and the cells, executive chamber and other departments were on the second floor.

Sunday, May 18th, a deputation of the Committee was delegated to call at the door of the jail and request the Sheriff to deliver up the prisoner, Casey. Upon arriving at the door three raps were made. Sheriff [David] Scannell appeared. The delegation desired him to handcuff the prisoner and deliver him at the door. Without hesitation, the Sheriff repaired to the cell of Casey and informed him of the request of the Vigilantes. The Sheriff, after going through some preliminaries, brought the prisoner to the front door of the jail and delivered him into the hands of the Committee. My company was stationed directly across the street lined up on the sidewalk. Immediately in front of us was a small brass cannon, which a detachment had shortly before secured from the store of Macondray & Co. It was the field piece of the First California Guard. It was loaded, and alongside was the lighted match, and all was in readiness should any resistance be offered. Other companies were stationed so as to command the entire surroundings. We marched from the general headquarters of the Committee at 41 Sacramento street (Fort Gunnybags), one block from the water front, up that street to Montgomery, thence to Pacific and along Kearny to the jail, which was situated on the north side of Broadway, between Kearny and Dupont streets. Other companies came via Stockton and Dupont streets.

NOTE—Two of the unused cartridges of Mr. Woolley's, at the end of the troublous time of the Vigilance Committee, are to be seen in the Oakland Public Museum.—[Editor.]

24 posted on 06/03/2012 11:52:28 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: RC2
I’ve always been against gun control but animals shouldn’t own guns.

Especially Pomeranians

25 posted on 06/03/2012 12:33:22 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: rellimpank

Mr Mayor,

Very respectfully, Sir: The problem is not too many guns. Rather, it is TOO FEW guns — in the hands of law-abiding citizens (something you and your Demonrat buddies have taken pains to eliminate and/or prevent).

It’s a Patriot thing: You wouldn’t understand.... or, perhaps, you do understand it — only too well.


26 posted on 06/03/2012 12:38:50 PM PDT by man_in_tx (Islam is a Hate Crime. (Blowback: Faithfully farting towards Mecca five times daily!))
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To: rellimpank

OK. That’s it. No more. We MUST pull our troops out of Chicago immediately! The war is lost.


27 posted on 06/03/2012 2:35:33 PM PDT by MasterGunner01 (11)
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To: MasterGunner01
One possible reason why Chicago is more dangerous is that in Baghdad, almost every home has an AK-47 and other weapons in it.
How dangerous would Chicago be if each law abiding citizen had one in their home? Guessing the thugs wouldn't be around long to prey on society.
Of course, then the liberal idiots would have to go find another sandbox to play in, maybe DC?
28 posted on 06/19/2012 11:09:56 AM PDT by Widows Son (Semper Fi!)
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To: Widows Son
If we armed the Chicago populace, we'd see a huge decrease in thug crime and a huge spike in thug body count. This would mean a significant decrease in income for Chicago politicians getting payoffs from the thugs. Mayor Rahm “Dead Fish” Emanuel isn't going to allow this.
29 posted on 06/19/2012 11:24:55 AM PDT by MasterGunner01 (11)
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