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Is the Queen homophobic?
Scoop World ^ | Saturday, 2 June 2012 | Peter Tatchell

Posted on 06/03/2012 2:43:31 PM PDT by presidio9

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To: EBH
I am tired of the LGBT community calling people homophobic, when we simply state it is not a lifestyle we choose or condone. It is like me saying I won't serve spinach because I don't like spinach and won't serve my guests that which I don't like.

LGBT community needs to get over itself and no...I don't have to accept their lifestyle. Just as I don't accept a drug addict lifestyle, a drunken lifestyle, or serving spinach just because my cousin Sally thinks I should.


Exactly. I have a couple of gay friends, thy know my positions as well, we just agree to disagree. Where we agree on is that we all have the right to access the American Dream as far as our talents, abilities and qualifications take us. What goes on in private should stay there. Since the flap over same sex marriage is hot, it is a 10th Amendment issue for each State to decide although it should not be shoved down our throats if the majority of the people are against it. Just because you're not for something, doesn't mean you're a hater. I don't like the Toyota Prius as a main car, my Chevy Blazer does fine, but don't force my butt into a Prius. If you want one, fine. We need to live and let live and address the huge problems of the economy and us losing our freedoms.
51 posted on 06/03/2012 4:25:02 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: presidio9

Some of my best friends have been queens.


52 posted on 06/03/2012 4:26:27 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: presidio9

All Hail the Queen!!!!


53 posted on 06/03/2012 4:26:43 PM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: Chode

Hey.....just wait for Charlea to be Queen....he’ll LOVE YOU ALL!!!


54 posted on 06/03/2012 4:27:12 PM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: presidio9

Elizabeth’s generation understands that perversion is something to be ashamed of, not celebrated and rewarded. I imagine the idea of “recognizing” what sodomites do would be as repellent and insane to her as it is to other NORMAL people.

Catering to these sodomites has made them think that the world owes them homage.


55 posted on 06/03/2012 4:27:38 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: Astronaut

Agreed.


56 posted on 06/03/2012 4:29:21 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: Jim Scott

Very well said, Jim Scott.


57 posted on 06/03/2012 4:30:37 PM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: Tax-chick
"Queen Elizabeth is a good woman. I admire her very much."

Same here. I'm reading Elizabeth the Queen by Sally Bedell Smith, and it strives to be impartial. Elizabeth is revealed as a very kind woman, a devout Christian with conservative views. She also has a big loud laugh and can stalk a deer or change a tire with the best of them!

58 posted on 06/03/2012 4:33:00 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: presidio9

This asshat Aussie is a cokcsukcing progressive...of the worst stripe

better he chose the UK to screw up than here

this PC environment is tailor made for queers...so many avenues to attract attention to thmselves


59 posted on 06/03/2012 4:38:02 PM PDT by wardaddy (the GOP are cowards)
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To: CatherineofAragon

“Philip and Elizabeth,” by Gyles Brandreth, is the book I read most recently about the Queen. We also have “Windsor Castle: A Royal Year” on DVD. It’s a fairly recent BBC production about Elizabeth and Philip and all the life going on around them.

I think Elizabeth and Philip are good people, patriotic people, interesting people. Philip’s getting a bit batty in his extremely old age, but probably we all will, if we live long enough.

I like Elizabeth for her staunch patriotism, and her devotion to her horse- and dog-breeding. It seems like Prince William and Catherine will live up to her example. They’re really showing a sense of duty to the family and the nation.


60 posted on 06/03/2012 4:47:59 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Make sure you notice when I'm being subtly ironic!)
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To: presidio9
Question for Mr. Tatchell (of the eponymous Tatchell Foundation):

Does the Queen ever publicly discuss sex ... of any kind?

I thought not.

The Queen comes from a background where there was such a thing as "polite company." I'm sorry those days are almost gone and forgotten.

61 posted on 06/03/2012 5:07:28 PM PDT by shhrubbery! (NIH!)
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To: Tax-chick

“Philip and Elizabeth” sounds interesting; I might look for it.

Agree with you about their characters. Very honorable people, with ingrained senses of duty. Philip showed his kind side when he called Catherine during one of her separations from William, and told her to be patient and hang on, she’d get her ring eventually.


62 posted on 06/03/2012 5:17:40 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Prince Philip tried to help Princess Diana, too, but she didn’t get the message of “Life is like this, stay tough.” Admittedly, Charles is quite a trial for everyone, it seems. It’s impossible for the present generation to understand what life was like for their parents or grandparents who lived through the European turmoil of the World Wars and everything else.

Our generation (I’m about to be 46) may see the End of the World as We Know It. If the Zombie Apocalypse hits, my grandparents will be my inspiration, but so will people like Elizabeth and Philip. You keep your values, you keep your standards, you eat grits and gravy and kudzu, if that’s what it takes.


63 posted on 06/03/2012 5:23:07 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Make sure you notice when I'm being subtly ironic!)
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To: presidio9
"Defenders of the monarchy point out that many royal staff are gay men. This is true. So what? Having gay staff wait hand and foot on the Queen is proof of nothing, apart from the fact that she likes well-mannered, well-groomed male servants.

The Queen has both male and female servants. You are a sexist pig. Most heterosexual men are well-mannered and well-groomed. You are bigoted moron.

64 posted on 06/03/2012 5:35:03 PM PDT by lonevoice (Klepto Baracka Marxo, impeach we much.)
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To: presidio9

The last line is the most I important. In demanding that the Queen demonstrate “sympathy” to homosexuals he explicitly reveals that the goal is not tolerance but active acceptance and approval of homosexuality.


65 posted on 06/03/2012 5:36:25 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: presidio9

EVERYONE IS HOMOPHOEBIC:

If you do not say gay is normal
If you do not agree that same sex marriage is the same as traditional marriage
If you do NOT support gay pride day/week/month/year/second/history and on and on and on
If you do nto repeat back a pro gay answer when asked in a national competition
If you do not support them adopting

and on

and on

and on!


66 posted on 06/03/2012 5:39:12 PM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: Gay State Conservative
As the leader of the Church of England she understands God's word and,thus,understands that homosexual acts are contrary,*very much* contrary,to God's law.So of course she's not going to say or do anything that could be interpreted as being approval of such acts...or such “lifestyles”.

She knows she's going to answer to the King some day.

67 posted on 06/03/2012 5:59:53 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Obama versus Romney? Cyanide versus arsenic.)
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To: NEW YORKCITYGOPMAN

LIZ, not LEZ! Go Queen, go!


68 posted on 06/03/2012 6:00:22 PM PDT by NEW YORKCITYGOPMAN ('he who creates something worthwhile, never dies.'')
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To: savagesusie
Evil can NEVER be good, even if the majority say it is. That is what Moral Absolutes are all about. Abortion is evil also and majority vote should not be able to take away a person’s life-—it is evil (Hitlerian) whether the majority think so or not.

You've just cited the single reason I cannot and never will vote for Romney or Obama.

69 posted on 06/03/2012 6:04:23 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Obama versus Romney? Cyanide versus arsenic.)
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To: gorush

Boy, I wish there were a “like” button. Great comment, and I’m stealing “homonauseous” to turn it loose on some folks. Hope you don’t mind.


70 posted on 06/03/2012 6:05:18 PM PDT by holly go-rightly
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To: Tax-chick
(And Prince Phillip is a colorful old crackpot, like some of my great-uncles, if they were European royalty instead of Missouri farmers.)

That's my allotted smile for the day!

(If we had some ham, we'd have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)

71 posted on 06/03/2012 6:07:37 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Obama versus Romney? Cyanide versus arsenic.)
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To: Tax-chick

You’re darned right. The WW II generation sacrificed in ways we can’t imagine.

I can’t say I’m a Diana fan. It’s inescapably true that she was “done wrong”, as the saying goes, but she was a manipulator, and she had problems with the truth. She fed stories to the press that cast her in a glowing light, as the model mother, and then lied about doing so. That “Queen of Hearts” stuff was calculated.


72 posted on 06/03/2012 6:07:53 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: presidio9

Is the Pope Catholic?


73 posted on 06/03/2012 6:08:26 PM PDT by rwa265 ("This is My Beloved Son, Listen to Him.")
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To: Graybeard58
(If we had some ham, we'd have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)

Indeed. And if we were burning our fence palings to boil kudzu soup, we'd get nasty-grams from the homeowners association saying they'll fine us if we don't stop it.

I think Elizabeth and Philip would eat kudzu soup in the Carolinas, if it was that or nothing. Realistic people.

74 posted on 06/03/2012 6:24:04 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Make sure you notice when I'm being subtly ironic!)
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To: holly go-rightly

Have at it. It was one of my rare original thoughts. :{)


75 posted on 06/03/2012 6:26:13 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Diana was only 19 when she married Charles. I was a dingbat at 19, too. Looking back at it, from one’s 40s, it’s easy to say that a person should calculate the benefits and play the game, but we weren’t there at the time.

William and Harry have turned out pretty well. If they were my sons, I wouldn’t be complaining. Sometimes children overcome their parents’ example in dramatic ways!


76 posted on 06/03/2012 6:27:04 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Make sure you notice when I'm being subtly ironic!)
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To: Tax-chick

My parents lived in England at the time of the coronation. My mother always said she felt sorry for Prince Charles. She said she remembered seeing the Queen come back from trips and greet him, a young child, with only a handshake. Mama thought he needed a hug.


77 posted on 06/03/2012 6:45:30 PM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: kalee

His parents wanted him to be as tough as they were, but it seems that just wasn’t his nature.


78 posted on 06/03/2012 6:53:40 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Make sure you notice when I'm being subtly ironic!)
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To: presidio9
Is the Queen homophobic? (Not that there's anything wrong with that)
79 posted on 06/03/2012 7:06:27 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Gott mit Mitt, Mitt mit uns)
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To: presidio9

Send them both back. It’s the only way to be sure.


80 posted on 06/03/2012 8:08:56 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

*rimshot*


81 posted on 06/03/2012 8:12:22 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: presidio9

My mother who died last year bore a striking likeness to Queen
Liz in their younger years. Mom could be described as homo-
phobic. My 88 yr old WWII combat wounded paratrooper dad
could also be described as homophobic as could most all of his
pals. Generational thing at work here? Ya think?


82 posted on 06/03/2012 9:07:47 PM PDT by Sivad (NorCal Red Turf)
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To: Sivad

Just about everybody and everything was “homophobic” until the last 20 years.

Being happy that you were raised by your father and mother is, of course, “homophobic”. Reading the Bible and attending church is “homophobic”. Being happy if your son marries a woman and if your daughter marries a man is “homophobic.” Basically any disagreement with a homosexual person about absolutely anything is now “homophobic.” Kind of like disagreeing with B. Hussein Obama about anything is “racist.”


83 posted on 06/03/2012 10:18:50 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan

In the PC world of today you are com-
pletely right. And, if the conversation
is of a political nature and with a liberal
opponent then the PC is all the more
thicker.


84 posted on 06/04/2012 12:02:33 AM PDT by Sivad (NorCal Red Turf)
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To: presidio9; wagglebee; Gamecock; Lee N. Field

Man, now the gays want to pillorise the queen for not mentioning gays? They don’t want equality, they want domination...


85 posted on 06/04/2012 2:06:04 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: presidio9
According to The Queen's website, she supports a total of 621 charities. Having read through a significant portion of the list, it's clear than gay people benefit from many of these charities in proportion to their representation in the population. Apparently their complaint is that she doesn't discriminate against heterosexuals by supporting gay-only charities.
86 posted on 06/04/2012 7:02:41 AM PDT by Pollster1 (A boy becomes a man when a man is needed - John Steinbeck)
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To: presidio9

Everyone should follow the Queen’s example. Ignore evil, unless it is in your face; then fight it.


87 posted on 06/04/2012 8:48:16 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Bellflower

There can never be enough validation, because all the validation in the world wouldn’t make right what even they know, deep down, is abominably wrong. “Let God be true, and every man a liar”


88 posted on 06/04/2012 9:33:02 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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