Meant to ping you two on my response: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2891219/posts?page=40#40
My challenge is always: Show me where a utility-sized “alternate energy” installation was put in without either subsidies or mandates (which latter are just hidden subsidies).
They can’t do it.
Doing it due to “carbon footprint” is just spending huge money on a lie. The “science” there, isn’t.