Posted on 06/04/2012 4:54:22 AM PDT by marktwain
I see your logic, but think it a stretch to say that all rifles are of military origin because all firearms derive, at some point, from firearms that were designed for military use.
Clearly, some firearms are designed specifically for hunting and not for military use, even if they can be used militarily.
Sure, the early matchlocks and hand cannons were first designed for military usage, and all modern designs derive to some extent from them.
But it is rather like saying that all knives are military derivatives.
I think we can make a useful distinction about rifles that were designed for military usage, and those that were not. Many were designed with both purposes in mind. For a lot of designers, the military market was the brass ring to aim for.
On the other hand, I cannot think of a single double rifle manufacturer that tried to get military contracts for their rifles.
Nothing like a top 10 gun thread to get the whole room yakking.
The important characteristic is the ability to penetrate blue helmets.
Interesting choices for sure. But if we’re not talking about just mass-produced rifles, we should add sporters based on military rifles. The Swedish Mauser in 6.5 x 55 is supposed to be an excellent, low recoil, high-penetrating and accurate deer/elk slayer. I personnaly have a customized FN-built Yugo Mauser action mated to a step-down 308 barrel and sporter stock, custom safety and bolt job—just a sweet rifle with an interesting history.
Silly article.
It’s 99% hunter, and 1% rifle (assuming any of the wide range of appropriate cartridges). The rifles are all fine.
Silly article.
It’s 99% hunter, and 1% rifle (assuming any of the wide range of appropriate cartridges). The rifles are all fine.
There are a lot of avid hunters that are union member Democrats that hate the 2nd amendment and would be thrilled if we could ban all "military weapons", including pistols, as long as they can shoot some ducks/doves/deer whatever. We need to fight against the sporting purposes rationale whenever we can while reminding these Fuds that their toys are going to be banned next.
I’m with you. Those suppository guns are for shooting terrorists, not deer!! :)
Something not quite right about that.
Sort of like a missle launcher on a square-rigger or a steam whistle on a bullet train.
Strange looking contraption!
Now you done and got me thinkin’.
I think it is fair to say I actually “love” my Ruger M77 30-06 in Stainless and Composite - Nitrogen Swift scope glass just a millimeter from the barrel - just a wonderful, stable, enormously accurate, confidence-building weapon. I have NEVER had to track a deer.
I totally agree with everything you pointed out
Thread is nearly useless without gun ‘pron’.
The Browning BAR in .308 or .30-06 is a great hunting rifle. Accurate and lower recoil than bolt actions.
I have the Sav. 99 covered in .250-300 and .300; 92 Win mod for .45 Colt, the 700 Rem in .25-06, M 70 in .30-06, m95 Win in .30-40, several Marlins in .30-30, .35Rem and .38-55 plus a bunch of others which may have been lost in the floods last year. All of them were deer capable. Am a bit light on the pump and auto rifles. Which one is a favorite? The one that is in my hand at the moment.
Never had a problem making ready for a second shot with any of the above BUT if i am doing my job, won't need a second shot.
I have a Remington 7600, chambered in 30-06. Wonderful all around rifle. Composite stocks ain’t purty but won’t crack or warp. With the std 3 round removable box magazine it is perfect for Deer hunting. And, with the optional 10 round box magazines it works very well for target rich gangsta / urban terrorist hunting . . .
I'll never give mine up. I have a Winchester 70 Featherweight in 30-06 (pre 64 style extractor) with a B&L 3x9 scope which is plenty accurate but almost unnecessary around these parts so I usually just tote the '94 with iron sights. Over the last hundred years the woods have grown back so thickly and the deer have become so abundant that there's little opportunity or need for that matter to shoot anything more than 50 yards away anyway.
Last season I just used a Browning bow.
I might just use a ball peen hammer this year. Just walk up to the and clock them on the head around my gardens - the population has gotten that out of control.
I have a Remington 700 BDL with a left-hand action, from around 1972. How would you classify it? I am interested in selling it, but want to know how much I should ask.
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