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Gun law changes take effect Nov. 1(OK)
The Edmond Sun ^ | 31 May, 2012 | Mark Schlachtenhaufen

Posted on 06/04/2012 5:18:16 AM PDT by marktwain

OKLA. CITY — Someone using the handle “bronathan” posted a question on a Web page dedicated to Senate Bill 1733, an open carry bill.

The author of the post wrote that he and his family relocated to Oklahoma more than nine months ago. After relocating, he notified Texas about it so he could change over his concealed carry license to out of state now that he is a resident here.

His question: Will my Texas permit allow me to open carry or will I need to have an Oklahoma license to open carry?

A fellow poster supplied what appeared to be a pretty good answer: Language in SB 1733, which will become law on Nov. 1, includes reciprocal agreement authority. In it, Oklahoma recognizes any valid concealed or unconcealed carry weapons permit or license issued by another state.

Senate Bill 1733, sponsored by Sen. Anthony Sykes, R-Moore, and Rep. Jeff Hickman, R-Dacoma, is an omnibus firearm bill containing significant changes to Oklahoma gun laws, including allowing concealed open carry permit holders the choice of open carrying, according to the National Rifle Association.

Oklahoma became the 25th state with either “permissive open carry” laws (no permit required) or “licensed open carry” (permit required).

Oklahoma joined Utah, North Dakota, Minnesota, Iowa, Indiana, Tennessee, Georgia, Mississippi, New Jersey, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Hawaii and Massachusetts as a “licensed open carry” state.

Gov. Mary Fallin’s office said the bill permits those who are licensed or already have been licensed to carry a firearm under the Oklahoma Self Defense Act to openly carry a weapon or conceal it. It also allows property owners to openly carry a firearm on their property without a concealed carry permit for the purpose of self defense.

“Senate Bill 1733 sends a strong message that Oklahoma values the rights of its citizens to defend themselves, their family and their property,” Fallin said via the news release. “It does so in a responsible way, by requiring those citizens who choose to ‘open carry’ to undergo both firearms training and a background check.”

Sykes said a majority of Oklahomans support the Second Amendment and believe law-abiding citizens should be able to protect themselves.

To receive a license under the Oklahoma Self Defense Act, applicants must take a firearms safety and training course and submit to a background check by the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation. Those convicted of felonies and certain misdemeanors may not receive a handgun license.

Other firearm legislation filed this session included SB 1743, the “Landowner’s Hunting Freedom Act,” SB 1420, which sought to legalize the use of laser scoping devices in specific circumstances and SB 1760, an “Emergency Powers” bill, which seeks to fill the current gap in the language of the state riot control statute to prevent the banning of ownership, possession or transportation of firearms and ammunition during declared states of emergency.

SB 875, signed by the governor, limits the liability of owners, employees and customers from injuries that occur at gun ranges, gun shops and gun clubs.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: banglist; november; ok; opencarry
I understand that 43 or 44 states have open carry, not 25. Some of those states may have legal open carry, but not allow it in through extra legal means.
1 posted on 06/04/2012 5:18:22 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

You are subject to the laws of the jurisdiction which you are within.

If you have an Oklahoma CONCEALED Carry license and are in Texas, you are subject to Texas law and cannot carry openly.

I carry everywhere and have for years but have never understood why some folks want to carry openly and be a trouble magnet.

I’m the invisible, unknown quantity and don’t have bad guys following me with the intent of taking my gun.


2 posted on 06/04/2012 6:04:10 AM PDT by ReconViper 1
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To: marktwain

I should have mentioned, Texas won’t issue a Non-Resident CHL to a resident of a State that has it’s own Concealed Carry Law.

Non-Resident CHL licenses are only issued to residents of States not offering their residents the opportunity to carry and the license is only valid in States honoring Non-Resident Texas CHL’s.


3 posted on 06/04/2012 6:28:17 AM PDT by ReconViper 1
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To: marktwain

Description says “reciprocal”—is it outright permission to concealed carry for out of state licensees in Oklahoma; or reciprocity to states that recognize Oklahoma licensees?


4 posted on 06/04/2012 6:31:13 AM PDT by David
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...outright permission to concealed carry for out of state licensees in Oklahoma...

The part of your question in italics above is the correct understanding of OK law on reciprocity. While it is good for those coming into OK, it seems non-sensical to me as an OK CHL holder because it flies in the face of the very definition of "reciprocal". There are multiple states where I can't carry due to no OK reciprocity agreement due to some niggling point of difference in the various states' laws about length of training, renewal of background checks, or availability of the licensee database for license checks.

5 posted on 06/04/2012 7:06:41 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: David

Concealed Carry Licenses Honored by Oklahoma

Per Oklahoma Title 21 § 1290.26, the State of Oklahoma “recognizes any valid concealed carry weapons permit or license issued by another state. The license must be issued by the state and must be carried fully concealed from detection and view...” (SDA Law Book, Nov. 2007). To read the entire statute, click here.

http://www.ok.gov/osbi/Concealed_Weapons_Licensing/Reciprocity/index.html


6 posted on 06/04/2012 7:21:12 AM PDT by marktwain
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Oklahoma joined Utah, North Dakota, Minnesota, Iowa, Indiana, Tennessee, Georgia, Mississippi, New Jersey, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Hawaii and Massachusetts as a “licensed open carry” state.

That is really misleading. Unless you are in law enforcement or very well connected, it is impossible to obtain a carry permit in New Jersey.

7 posted on 06/04/2012 7:23:37 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: ReconViper 1; All
I’m the invisible, unknown quantity and don’t have bad guys following me with the intent of taking my gun.

Open carry and concealed carry both have their disadvantages and advantages. While open carry may draw attention to you, it also serves as tactical deterrence. Most criminals do not want to confront an armed man, but you lose some element of surprise if they do target you as an open carrier.

As a concealed carrier, you retain some element of surprise, but you lose the tactical deterrence. Criminals are more likely to target someone that they perceive as unarmed.

8 posted on 06/04/2012 7:24:46 AM PDT by marktwain
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