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Wisconsin Unions in Decline (AFSCME dropped over 30,000 members in just a year!)
National Review Online ^ | June 1, 2012 | Robert Costa

Posted on 06/04/2012 5:34:22 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer

But the biggest drop has been in the Wisconsin chapter of AFSCME, the powerful union that represents state, county, and municipal workers. In the past year, more than 30,000 members have deserted the collective.

According to the Journal, when Walker first proposed his fiscal reforms in early 2011, AFSCME’s Wisconsin membership stood at a healthy 62,818. By February 2012, the labor behemoth had shrunk to 28,745. “It’s a profound shift,” says George Lightbourn, the president of the Wisconsin Policy Research Institute and the state’s former secretary of administration. “It’s similar to what Indiana experienced after Governor Mitch Daniels changed the collective-bargaining laws. If these numbers are borne out, it will significantly change the whole nature of Wisconsin’s state workforce and the relationship between management and employees.”

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: afscme; union; walker; wisconsin; wisconsinshowdown
This is what happens when people who have been forced into a union get their freedom. They use it. God bless 'em.
1 posted on 06/04/2012 5:34:27 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer
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To: Springfield Reformer

Dinosaur union death watch


2 posted on 06/04/2012 5:38:56 PM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Springfield Reformer

This is a real feel-good story.


3 posted on 06/04/2012 5:40:37 PM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: Springfield Reformer
30,000 were smart enough to see the writing on the wall, that Something is better than Nothing.

Bankruptcy means Nobody has Anything.....except for the commie crooks at the top of the food chain.

4 posted on 06/04/2012 5:41:08 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: Springfield Reformer

Just goes to show that union members don’t like to pay oppressive taxes (here called union dues) just like the the rest of us.


5 posted on 06/04/2012 5:45:22 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: FlyVet

My democrat neighbor came over for a visit while I was unloading my truck. She mentioned that a grand-niece graduated college, got married and got hired at the local elementary school to teach 5th grade. I was tempted to tell her that her job wouldn’t have been possible without Gov. Walker reining in the teacher’s union. So much dead-weight retired last year that now young teachers can find jobs in the school system. Vote for Walker and Kleefisch tomorrow!


6 posted on 06/04/2012 5:45:52 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: Springfield Reformer

Right on, that is exactly what it is.

All of those people who dropped out of the Union got a pay raise.

Whatever their Union dues were.


7 posted on 06/04/2012 5:53:29 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Springfield Reformer
2 words.. "Paycheck Protection"....

It is what all the State House Sit-ins were all about. The Unions agreed to the cuts, but didn't want the auto deduction of dues removed. Walker won and they were...

You are seeing the results, their funding is drying up and they will metaphorically die on the vine.

The question you should ask is, why isn't the decline more given the rank and have now have to cut the check for the Union Dues and send it in...

8 posted on 06/04/2012 5:54:46 PM PDT by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: Springfield Reformer

The AFSCME goons are bombarding state workers all over the country with emails right now. The goons are scared. That’s a good thing. They’ll soon all be unemployed and will have to go out and find real jobs. When they do, I hope a bunch thugs crawl out from under a rock and raid THEIR paychecks!


9 posted on 06/04/2012 5:55:05 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Free Stuff or Freedom! You Decide 2012.)
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To: Springfield Reformer

Actually, over 300,000 members dumped AFCSME after they no longer had to pay exhorbitant union dues to be used by the union against the wishes of the members.


10 posted on 06/04/2012 5:55:42 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (Da Bro' Gotsta Go!)
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To: Springfield Reformer

I was forced to belong to AFCSME in my last job and was angry at the time! Far from the perception that all Union shops love their unions there were a few of us who resented the feeling that we were being shaken down with the “if you want to work at this company, then you have to give us a percentage” and resented even more that the government was acting as the “Enforcer” by taking the dues out of our salaries and sending them into the Union. Unions and Government make an unholy alliance and should be banned. The government I pay taxes to support should not be able to turn around and force me to pay union dues in order to hold a government job. Watching this union fail in Wisconsin will be a wonderful feeling!


11 posted on 06/04/2012 5:56:31 PM PDT by onevoter
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To: Springfield Reformer


12 posted on 06/04/2012 6:08:49 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: onevoter
I don't understand the need for unions. I worked 35 years without one. I made a decent salary commensurate with my education and experience. Wasn't overpaid or underpaid. Wasn't enslaved, discriminated against or any of the other whines from unions. Had a simple arrangement with my employers: if I did the job well, I was paid. If I didn't, I would be fired. What else would anyone want or need?
13 posted on 06/04/2012 6:08:54 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: onevoter
I don't understand the need for unions. I worked 35 years without one. I made a decent salary commensurate with my education and experience. Wasn't overpaid or underpaid. Wasn't enslaved, discriminated against or any of the other whines from unions. Had a simple arrangement with my employers: if I did the job well, I was paid. If I didn't, I would be fired. What else would anyone want or need?
14 posted on 06/04/2012 6:09:07 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: fatnotlazy

The need for unions boils down to extorting money at this point in time. The money is used to pad their pockets and the pockets of Dem candidates. Time and again I would receive phone calls and mailings from AFCSME advising me who to vote for in each election. Imagine how surprising it was to find that the BEST candidate for “my interest” was ALWAYS the Dem candidate. The Union magazine was a complete propaganda flyer and, much like an earlier poster claimed - the people in the pictures were frequently obese, hardly an image that made one imagine that hard work was their priority.


15 posted on 06/04/2012 6:15:04 PM PDT by onevoter
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To: onevoter; fatnotlazy

Unions purpose is to launder taxpayer money for DemocRAT campaigns.


16 posted on 06/04/2012 6:29:39 PM PDT by 4Liberty (88% of Americans are NON-UNION. We value honest, peaceful Free trade-NOT protectionist CARTELS)
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To: Chode

17 posted on 06/04/2012 6:30:23 PM PDT by 4Liberty (88% of Americans are NON-UNION. We value honest, peaceful Free trade-NOT protectionist CARTELS)
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To: 4Liberty

SEIU ... Andy Stern needed some new scam to empower him. The droogs of union ilk are so easy to manipulate don’tchaknow.


18 posted on 06/04/2012 6:32:51 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Springfield Reformer

Bump


19 posted on 06/04/2012 6:36:33 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Springfield Reformer

By this time tomorrow, Governor Walker will have completed handing AFSCME its AZZ.


20 posted on 06/04/2012 7:06:24 PM PDT by tumblindice (Our new, happy lives.)
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To: tumblindice

Don’t be surprised if more of the union membership votes for Walker than the Dems expect.


21 posted on 06/04/2012 7:08:46 PM PDT by profit_guy
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To: faucetman

I’m not up to speed on the 4 GOP senators up for recall, does anybody have any opinion on that? (we need all 4 to retain control of the WI senate)


22 posted on 06/04/2012 7:09:27 PM PDT by profit_guy
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To: Springfield Reformer

Looks like Walker picked up about 30,000 votes.

Pray for America


23 posted on 06/04/2012 7:16:44 PM PDT by bray (Power to We the People)
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To: umgud

Yes it is. That’s why I posted it.


24 posted on 06/04/2012 7:19:22 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Springfield Reformer

That’s a shame.


25 posted on 06/04/2012 7:24:49 PM PDT by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: fatnotlazy

I’ve been on both sides. Definitely prefer non-union employment. The union I worked for decades ago used to deliberately slow down work to maximize overtime. The factory was eventually moved to Mexico. Brilliant. Simply brilliant. /s


26 posted on 06/04/2012 7:25:00 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

Not that I doubt you, but could you point me to where the 300,000 number comes from? Thanks.


27 posted on 06/04/2012 7:39:56 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: rabidralph

“I was tempted to tell her that her job wouldn’t have been possible without Gov. Walker reining in the teacher’s union. So much dead-weight retired last year that now young teachers can find jobs in the school system.”

Yep, I’m one of those younger teachers too. Glad to hear Gov. Walker getting everything together!


28 posted on 06/04/2012 8:09:56 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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To: Springfield Reformer

Put a fork in it the unions are dead and Walker wins. 30,000 union members have left. Are you going to tell me that 30,000 people are now going to vote against Walker so the unions can take dues out again? Fat chance. They either stay home and do not vote for the democrats or they make sure and vote and 30,000 vote against the unions. Either way the unions are screwed. The recall is dead.

Walker wins. Period end of sentence.


29 posted on 06/04/2012 8:17:24 PM PDT by GilGil
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Wisconsin employment numbers for govt employees went down just through attrition. Probably helped that the unions couldn’t dictate how large the staffs (classrooms) were.


30 posted on 06/04/2012 8:47:09 PM PDT by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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To: profit_guy
Don’t be surprised if more of the union membership votes for Walker than the Dems expect...exactly - reporters on Fox tonight were saying that people they interviewed were particularly close-mouthed about who they would be voting for tomorrow - probably lots of union types going for Walker who don't want late-night visits from union thugs because they were foolish enough to state openly what they believe.......
31 posted on 06/04/2012 9:13:40 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: dennisw
Just goes to show that union members don’t like to pay oppressive taxes (here called union dues) just like the the rest of us.

Whether they "like" to pay or not, they generally pay 2 hours pay per month, a little over 1%. Not really "oppressive", the repressive part is that they "have" to pay or should say "had".

32 posted on 06/04/2012 9:27:38 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Obama versus Romney? Cyanide versus arsenic.)
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To: dennisw

Well, my last post was inaccurate. I was basing that on a 40 hour week and teachers don’t work a 40 hour week, not even close.


33 posted on 06/04/2012 9:29:03 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Obama versus Romney? Cyanide versus arsenic.)
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To: Springfield Reformer
Permitting unionization of government employees is an inherently idiotic concept. Critical to a union/company relationship is a balance of competing interests. The union looks out for the welfare of the employees while the company is trying to balance costs with revenue.

In government, there is no interested adversary to the union. The government has the ability to simply demand more revenue and thus has no incentive to quell union demands. Additionally, there are few government employees whose safety is imperiled working for government, so a safe workplace is not a concern.

34 posted on 06/05/2012 7:47:36 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: Graybeard58

Don’t know what state it was but I have read of union dues for public school k-12 teachers was north of $1000/year. That is a lot of money!


35 posted on 06/05/2012 7:51:29 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw

I’ve been out of town for the past few days and heard the news on radio only about Walker’s win in Wisconsin but didn’t catch the margin of victory. Do you know the numbers?


36 posted on 06/08/2012 2:06:47 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Obama versus Romney? Cyanide versus arsenic.)
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To: Graybeard58

Walker won with 53 percent of the vote while Barrett received 46 percent, a slightly larger margin than when the two ran against one another in


37 posted on 06/08/2012 4:27:14 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw
Thanks, that's too big a margin for the rats to cheat their way out of.
38 posted on 06/08/2012 6:46:41 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Obama versus Romney? Cyanide versus arsenic.)
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