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Ron Paul supporters arrested as La GOP Shreveport convention splits in two
examiner.com ^ | June 2, 2012 | James Plummer

Posted on 06/05/2012 1:17:51 AM PDT by Casie

Chaos erupted in Shreveport today as police officers arrested state GOP delegates who support Ron Paul for the party's 2012 presidential nomination.

The dispute arose after the state party's central committee issued "supplemental rules" earlier this week concerning the delegate selection process. A press release from the Ron Paul campaign this afternoon referred to the 11th hour changes as "illegal rules."

After fights in the Rules Committee Friday, state party chairman opened the convention moving to pass the new rules, when the majority of delegates moved to elect a new convention chair. When Villere refused to yield the dais, the majority elected a new chair and turned their chairs. As this was happening, the Villere faction convinced the Shreveport Police Department to arrest some of the Paul delegates holding microphones for "trespassing."

During the forcible arrests, Shreveport police dislocated the hip of the gentlemen in the video here, identified by the Paul campaign as State Central Commiteeman Henry Herford Jr. of Franklin Parish.

(video) http://www.examiner.com/video/shreveport-pd-at-la-gop-convention-arrest-injury

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: convention; gop; larouchies; paul; ronpaul; shreveport
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Henry Herford Jr. was elected by an overwhelming majority as new convention chair. Mr. Villere, who had appointed himself the convention chairman, refused to yield. When delegates began turning their chairs around, Mr. Herford rose to call the convention to order. Mr. Villere then convinces police to forceably remove Mr. Herford, who is injured and sent to the hospital! Video at source. (My first post. Member since 2004!)

1 posted on 06/05/2012 1:18:10 AM PDT by Casie
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To: Casie
Good post.

Angry white people with bad hips getting dumped by shave head LEOs. Sad what passes for "politics" these days.
2 posted on 06/05/2012 1:38:24 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: Casie


3 posted on 06/05/2012 1:40:20 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

T the end of the video, it looks like the LEO is confiscating the video phone of the bystander.

Verrrry interestink!


4 posted on 06/05/2012 1:45:25 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: Tainan

“Sad what passes for “politics” these days.”

Seriously. I wish the process was like Draw Poker and we could throw these out and ask for a whole new hand!


5 posted on 06/05/2012 1:51:03 AM PDT by Casie
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To: Casie

GOPe thugs like the rule of law when it’s in their favor.


6 posted on 06/05/2012 3:38:26 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Casie
Why is this not surprising.

Our convention here in Maine was contentious, but not violent.

However, the level of animosity and hostility are palpable in the town and county meetings since.

For the most part, it's not about ideology on the part of the ‘old guard’, it's about losing power.

7 posted on 06/05/2012 3:58:45 AM PDT by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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To: Casie

Louisiana politics!

???????

Not sure. Suspect the woman who wrote the article is a Dem who want to make the GOP Look Stupid. (often not that hard)

I have to admit I am seriously disturbed and mad a the GOP “leadership” for their antics leading up to this point. I am convinced that Mitt Romney is a terrible candidate for President. Not that he is a terrible person, but he is a gun grabbing Big Government Lib in GOP cover.

I hear a train whistle, we are being railroaded and I despise it.

I leave Wednesday for the TX GOP Convention in Ft. Worth. Pray to god that ours is not like this.

I admit I “did” vote for Ron Paul in the primary. Not a candidate of choice, but in my opinion better than Mitt Romney. (Yes, I know some of Ron Pauls positions are nuts)


8 posted on 06/05/2012 4:32:40 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Texas Fossil

The GOP looked pretty supid at the Shreveport convention without anyone’s help! Last minute rule change. Ugly power play. Clueless police officers deployed wrecklessly.

There is a Freeper that has a graphic of a bumper sticker that I must find and steal! It says “Vote Romney to stop Obama. Vote for a Conservative Senate to stop Romney!”

Have fun at the TX convention. Don’t forget to charge your cell phone in case you need to capture some video. ;)


9 posted on 06/05/2012 4:58:47 AM PDT by Casie
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To: Casie

One of the MANY reasons I will not only NOT vote for romney if he gets out of the convention with the nomination, I WILL work AGAINST him and the GOP-e and do EVERYTHING i possibly can to make sure that the GOP-e NEVER gets their socialist elected president.

These stupid F’ers in the GOP need a serious ass kicking.


10 posted on 06/05/2012 4:59:58 AM PDT by myself6 (NOT voting for the GOP's socialist - Romney)
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To: Casie

Legal recourse?

Sounds like the LA GOP isn’t following their rules.


11 posted on 06/05/2012 5:01:56 AM PDT by Bogey78O (Don't call them jihadis. Call them irhabis. Tick them off, don't entertain their delusion.)
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To: Tainan
you have a problem with white people ?

typical far left radical ron paul nutters trying to take over the LA GOP and the “ white people” you hate fought back !

12 posted on 06/05/2012 5:09:16 AM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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To: Casie

these were radical far left paul nutters trying to take over the LA GOP and the GOP fought back.
The paul nutters are not used to that.
they have gotten away with pauhing around the meek old people and seized power !

they want to reek chaos at the gop convention by taking over gop delegates !


13 posted on 06/05/2012 5:12:51 AM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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To: Bogey78O

BS

the radical PAUL crazies trying go seize power and got nailed !

you paul nutters think your going to destroy the gop convention.
think again.


14 posted on 06/05/2012 5:16:01 AM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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To: ncalburt

They followed the rules, so the entrenched powers changed the rules and resorted to violence.

Nice friends you have there...


15 posted on 06/05/2012 5:20:42 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: ncalburt

They followed the rules set forth by the State GOP. Sorry if that gets your knickers in a twist...

You sound like a Dem. “They beat us at our own game so it’s ok if we act like thugs to get our way...”

And people wonder why this Country is swirling the toilet bowl.


16 posted on 06/05/2012 5:23:09 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: ncalburt

Just for the record I’m not a “Paul Nutter” or anything like it. I am just suprised by the GOPs complete lack of cohesion! This incident was ridiculous.

Charles Pierce wrote a nice little blog:

“The police were called in and Herford was hauled off to the hoosegow, allegedly with his artificial hip broken in the scuffle.... Meanwhile, state party leaders held their own convention in one corner of the room with about 30 delegates in attendance. Local media is reporting that the minority convention also elected a slate of delegates, although it is unlikely that the legitimacy of their slate will be recognized by the RNC.

I love the convention being held “in one corner of the room.” It’s so damned Louisiana.”


17 posted on 06/05/2012 5:31:03 AM PDT by Casie
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To: myself6

> I WILL work AGAINST him and the GOP-e and do EVERYTHING i possibly can to make sure that the GOP-e NEVER gets their socialist elected president.

Working hard to elect Obama are we?
While I admire your anti socialist bent, you sound like a far left liberal nut!
Your post reads like it was lifted from the DU - Go Obama!


18 posted on 06/05/2012 5:38:20 AM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: Dead Corpse
Paul was CRUSHED in LA and has no right to any delegates in LA.
But his LEFT WING tried to seize power and got NAILED !
Get over it.
19 posted on 06/05/2012 5:38:29 AM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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To: ncalburt
Yep. Too many people are so blinded in their hate for the latest RINO flavor that they would rather burn the entire GOP down and leave the Democrats in total control than reform the GOP delegate allocation process to put more weight on states which actually deliver electoral votes for the GOP in the fall and less on those with big populations which do not.
20 posted on 06/05/2012 5:38:45 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: ncalburt

IOW, you have no clue how the election process works in LA and are just talking out your ass.

A Straw poll is non-binding. It’s the delegate vote that counts. These were duly elected delegates following the process.

Neither Paul, nor Romney, deserve to be on the GOP ticket. The only way for that to happen is to deny Willard the RINO enough ACTUAL delegates.


21 posted on 06/05/2012 5:41:23 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: Vigilanteman

If the GOP insists on putting moderates and RINO’s (every POTUS candidate since Nixon with the exception of Reagan), then they deserve to be done away with.

Conservatives need more than just “liberal lite” to vote for.


22 posted on 06/05/2012 5:43:42 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: Casie
Then Casie you little NAIVE and UNINFORMED .
Most of these PAUL bots are far Left radicals and they have been CRASHING the GOP state delegate meetings and trying to take them OVER !
Its a strategy these radicals used to get Obama elected over Hillary and TEXAS was a prime example in 2008 .
Read up on it.
PAUL nutter got crushed in LA and has NO delegates in LA but these lefties tried there storm trooper moves and got STOPPED.
Why do think they should have let the left take over the LA GOP to be nice ??
Its LA we don't like the LEFT or PAUL nutters.
23 posted on 06/05/2012 5:43:58 AM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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To: Dead Corpse
Get that lie a rest.
Paul was crushed in LA !
He has no presence here period.
You think letting a bunch of Obama drones posing as Paul supporters into the GOP convention is a great idea.
NIce try with that scam.
Move on.
24 posted on 06/05/2012 5:46:41 AM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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To: Dead Corpse

Give that lie a rest.
Paul was crushed in LA !
He has no presence here period.
You think letting a bunch of Obama drones posing as Paul supporters into the GOP convention is a great idea.
NIce try with that scam.
Move on.


25 posted on 06/05/2012 5:46:59 AM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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To: ncalburt

You aren’t making any sense. Who voted for the new chairman if Paul didn’t have any delegates? By the sounds of it, a large majority as well.

Again, you are running your mouth without any real clue about what you are talking about.


26 posted on 06/05/2012 5:47:52 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: ncalburt

Look up the definition of “straw poll”. Now look up LA GOP rules on the non-binding nature of the poll. The delegte vote is what counts.

Anything the denies Willard the top slot is ok with me. Paul is the only one still active that could give us a brokered convention and a chance at a real conservative to run against Zero.

Stop thinking checkers and start thinking chess.


27 posted on 06/05/2012 5:50:56 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: Vigilanteman
Who do these Paul bots think there fooling here ?
They have posting about this exact SWARM every state GOP delegate convention and seize power thru roughing up the old people for the last year.

LA GOP beat them back and now these lefties are upset.

28 posted on 06/05/2012 5:53:22 AM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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To: ncalburt

You can’t seize power you legitimately won.

The Ron Paul camp won their delegates fair and square. The LA GOP needs to ask itself why. Not ignore the results because the current leadership wants a different result. Throwing out legit results is not conservative.


29 posted on 06/05/2012 5:53:41 AM PDT by Bogey78O (Don't call them jihadis. Call them irhabis. Tick them off, don't entertain their delusion.)
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To: ncalburt

1. Rules Chairman loses election
2. The next day, the State Party Chairman proclaims that old Rules Chairman back in to his position
3. The new Rules Chairman(elected by Paul supporters) objects, State Chairman orders him removed from the floor by police
4. Paul supporters make motion to elect new Party Chairman, succeed in voting in their guy
5. Old State Chairman refuses to leave position
6. Paul supporters turn around seats, begin their own convention
7. Old State Chairman orders police to remove Paul supporters and their elected Chairman

I really don’t see how Paul supporters were “disrupting” the convention, unless showing up and voting in person(where the ballots can’t be fixed) is disruptive.

This isn’t going to work out well for anyone.


30 posted on 06/05/2012 5:58:49 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: Bogey78O
listen Paul bot Obama LEFTIST
Paul got CRUSHED here in the primary.

Your NOT getting away with you far left radical DELEGATES games in LA.

la IS NOT GOING TO BE A PARTY TO YOUR FASR LEFT CHAOS YOUR PLANNING IN TAMPA.
YOU GOT SMACKED DOWN LEFTY.
So go back to try another left wing delegates scams elsewhere.

31 posted on 06/05/2012 6:01:42 AM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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To: Bogey78O
listen Paul bot Obama LEFTIST
Paul got CRUSHED here in the primary.

Your NOT getting away with you far left radical DELEGATES games in LA.

la IS NOT GOING TO BE A PARTY TO YOUR FAR LEFT CHAOS YOUR PLANNING IN TAMPA GOP convention .
YOU GOT SMACKED DOWN LEFTY.
So go back to try another left wing delegates scams elsewhere.

32 posted on 06/05/2012 6:02:40 AM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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To: Bogey78O
listen Paul bot Obama LEFTIST
Paul got CRUSHED here in the primary.

Your NOT getting away with you far left radical DELEGATES games in LA.

la IS NOT GOING TO BE A PARTY TO YOUR FAR LEFT CHAOS YOUR PLANNING IN TAMPA GOP convention .
YOU GOT SMACKED DOWN LEFTY.
So go back to try another left wing delegates scams elsewhere.

33 posted on 06/05/2012 6:02:47 AM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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To: Casie

I note that you lack a sig. That would make a great one if it fits.

I agree wholeheartedly with the sentiment.

Here in GA, the state GOP convention had a very strong Ron Paul supporter presence. In general, we agree with these folks on many, many issues. Even the supporters I talked to disagree with Paul on some of his foreign policy extremes.

We need to figure out how to make common ground with a large part of his supporters. We have a lot of it, and they are young, energetic, and anti-Big Government.


34 posted on 06/05/2012 6:05:58 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: ncalburt

Use more Capitalisation. Since you have no facts, maybe it’ll make someone listen to you.


35 posted on 06/05/2012 6:07:34 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: Dead Corpse
Obama left wing troll posing as a Paul supporter .

Like a good Radical leftist your COMRADES trying to seize control of the LA GOP delegates behind closed doors.

THE real LA GOP voters hate Ron Paul and gave him NO support.
He came in Last here in the primary because we are a CLOSED primary so leftists like you can not VOTE ! So like a Good Obam lefty you don't care about the voters you seize power from within ! THanks for verifying who and what you radical Paul bots are all about.

36 posted on 06/05/2012 6:13:08 AM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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To: bill1952
Heh...

Really? You sound like the typical GOP loser. You know, the idiots losers who have been swallowing the GOP's liberal load for the last few decades.

GO ahead and support the GOP-e's socialist. THEN, if you manage to get him elected go ahead and try to stop the other idiots in the GOP from following his socialist lead...

I really dont know if you guys are naive or just F'ing stupid.

IF you allow the GOP to elect this socialist POS you will have ended whatever meager opposition there was to socialism in the GOP. You will open the flood gates to tyranny.

Its just a damn shame that there are so many who are stuck in the "team" mindset of RNC -vs- DNC. That may have been the case at one time (a long time ago) but now that matchup is meaningless. The battle is Socialism -vs- everyone who wants to be free of socialist tyranny. While the DNC used to be the exclusive home of the socialist tyrant, they have since migrated to the GOP and are in actual leadership positions within the GOP. they are aided by the usefull idiots in the GOP who mindlessly support everything the gop throws at them simply because its not democrat. NO thought at all is given to whether or not the GOP is becoming a tool of the socialists.. Just that its not democrat... Thats all that matters... nothing else...

Its an IDIOTIC mindset and F'ing SUICIDAL strategy. YOU are working FOR the ENEMY! Imagine that... WHAT exactly do you mind numbed romneybots expect to get by supporting a socialist takeover of the GOP? What?! stop Obama? the man? or his party? Or his ideology? if your answer was "the man" or "His party" then YOU are an idiot. If the answer was his ideology then WTF are you doing out of the insane asylum? because your nominating someone with the exact same ideology.


37 posted on 06/05/2012 6:15:07 AM PDT by myself6 (NOT voting for the GOP's socialist - Romney)
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To: Dead Corpse

Hey snide lefty.
Isn’t there a Zionist hater convention you need to be at today ?


38 posted on 06/05/2012 6:18:51 AM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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To: ncalburt

Get your facts straight before you even think of calling anyone else a troll.

Moron.


39 posted on 06/05/2012 6:35:35 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: ncalburt

I’m Left handed, yes. Politically, I’m to the Right of you.

Keep your teeth together Newbie. You are embarrassing yourself.


40 posted on 06/05/2012 6:36:58 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: ncalburt
Yikes Ncalburt. You clearly feel strongly about this. 13 replies on this post! I just think it is time now to start laying the groundwork for a united GOP front.

Baby steps! But everyone must play by the rules.

I could not find that killer bumper sticker that I saw here a couple days ago, so I made a low quality new one. My apologies to the original owner. I may indeed be (your words) "NAIVE and UNINFORMED" but when I was 19 years old I voted for Ross Perot and I will never forget that lesson! Ha! Hope you like the graphic. ;)


41 posted on 06/05/2012 6:45:27 AM PDT by Casie
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To: Casie
The will of the LA GOP voters was being run down by these radical leftists !
Paul came in last place in our closed primary.
But the radicals who are Dem party operatives have analyzed each state GOP delegate system tried to seize control and overthrow the will of the LA voters using the delegate committee games.
These same Obama radicals did the same thing to Hillary and it was real scary in TX Dem delegate meeting .
Just goggle it.

Did you read how that Paulbot could care less the LA primary vote results but recited the delegates rules.
This is how the left plays games to seize control and the voters be damned !

42 posted on 06/05/2012 6:46:08 AM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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To: Dead Corpse

Dead the primary was back in March, thethe results are below. Paul got 6.1 percent to Romney’s 26.7 and Santorum’s 49 percent. This does not support a strong Ron Paul showing.

Louisiana Primary
100% precincts reporting

Candidate Votes Pct. Del.
Santorum 91,305 49.0% 10
Romney 49,749 26.7% 5
Gingrich 29,655 15.9%
Paul 11,460 6.1%
Others 4,208 2.3%


43 posted on 06/05/2012 6:53:02 AM PDT by Ratman83
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To: Dead Corpse
Your the one outed as Paulbot lefty.

Paulbots don't care about the LA GOP primary results inwhich where Paul was crushed and due NO delegates .

You seize control from within using well analyed gaps and holes in each state GOP delegate convention.

Who cares what the LA GOP voters wanted .
YouPaulbot leftists want power and control so you can cause chaos at the GOP convention in front of the TV cameras. !
I outed the Paulbot state delegates scam so go play the poor victum card elsewhere.

44 posted on 06/05/2012 6:55:03 AM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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To: Bogey78O
The Ron Paul camp won their delegates fair and square. The LA GOP needs to ask itself why.

Some actual results:

  1. Minnesota: Santorum trounced Paul 45% to 27% in caucus goers. Paul ended up with 30 delegates to Santorum's 3.

  2. Maine: Romney and Paul nearly tied in caucus goers, 39% to 36% respectively. Paul ended up with 21 delegates to Romney's 2.

  3. Louisiana: Santorum trounced 4th place Ron Paul 49% to 6%. Somehow, the Paulistas think they are entitled to 30 of Louisiana's 46 delegates.

The Ron Paul camp may think running dyed-in-the-wool Paulistas as uncommitted delegates is winning them fair and square. But normal people looking in wouldn't be swayed by the above three examples alone.

Yes, delegate allocation rules need to be overhauled big time.

But the key to that overhaul should be in awarding a lot more delegates to the states which actually deliver electoral votes to the GOP in the fall and a lot less to those which don't.

Not in making the GOP more brownshirt friendly like the Democrats are.

45 posted on 06/05/2012 7:01:58 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Casie
I am fed up with the FAR LEFTISTS who are storming all the Gop state delegate conventions and trying to seize control.

Just Google the topic and you will see that these Paulbots have taken over entire state gop delegations (WY,IA ,..)in which Paul was crushed in the Gop primary just like in LA .

Then watch these Paulbots post here like their victims blah ...

When Paul came in last place but the Paulbots did not care about the voters decision so want to tried to take over the LA delegation .

Just watch them do that attack in TX too.

46 posted on 06/05/2012 7:16:18 AM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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To: ncalburt
Did you read how that Paulbot could care less the LA primary vote results but recited the delegates rules. This is how the left plays games to seize control and the voters be damned !

Yup and see my examples in post #45. Some people think Ron Paul is wonderful just because he ain't Mitt Romney. But his followers have cost Santorum a lot more delegates than they have Romney with these brown shirt tactics. And the object isn't to win for their candidate. That has long gone past the point of no return.

The object is to disrupt the GOP convention for no reason other than making it easier for Obama to win reelection. If the object was to change the allocation rules for the future in the manner I described in post #45, then a lot of us could be sympathetic to the Paulistas here.

But it isn't. And they know it. It's all about their egos.

47 posted on 06/05/2012 7:17:24 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: All

sooooo..... a few paulists jump up and down and it becomes a “split.”

ONE kook objects and the media would call it a civil war.


48 posted on 06/05/2012 7:26:31 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: ncalburt
But you have to agree that Villere and friends can't simply ignore elected chairmen they do not like and then use excessive police force to enforce their will.

It makes Romney supporters look like strong-arm elite Rhino thugs and further fractures the party. It makes Paul's people look like champions of conservatism fighting the old Republican establishement.

I want to also mention that after the chaos of the convention, one the Ron Paul people (I can't remember her name) called the Moon Griffon radio show to say they came to the convention in the spirit of reconciliation and the intention of conceding some seats to Romney supporters.

49 posted on 06/05/2012 7:37:50 AM PDT by Casie
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To: Casie

You got to be kidding me.

You are a Paulbot.


50 posted on 06/05/2012 7:45:43 AM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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