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Dobson to Prez: "I won't bow to 'wicked' Obamacare."
WorldNet Daily ^ | 6/04/12 | Chelsea Schilling

Posted on 06/05/2012 1:44:18 PM PDT by TIElniff

WND EXCLUSIVE Dobson to prez: I won't bow to 'wicked' Obamacare 'So come and get me if you must' Dr. James Dobson is taking a defiant stand on Obamacare and issuing a loud and clear message to President Obama: “I WILL NOT pay the surcharge for abortion services. … So come and get me if you must, Mr. President. I will not bow before your wicked regulation.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2012; abortion; donttreadonme; moralabsolutes; obama; obamacare; prolife; socialisthealthcare; waronliberty
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Hurrah for James Dobson's taking a stand.

But I wonder why no one has posted this earlier. Too bold? Too specific?

1 posted on 06/05/2012 1:44:23 PM PDT by TIElniff
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To: TIElniff

Later - for no particular reason - Dobson confidentially told Obama that Fred Thompson wasn’t a Christian.


2 posted on 06/05/2012 1:52:05 PM PDT by Sideshow Bob
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To: TIElniff

Put my signature next to Dr. James Dobson, I stand too with him.


3 posted on 06/05/2012 1:55:31 PM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: TIElniff

I too cheer Dobson...

Do you or any other FREEPers follow Moody Radio and SRN News? I know they’re from Obama’s hometown of Chicago, but sometimes they seem awfully friendly to him.


4 posted on 06/05/2012 1:56:04 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: TIElniff
A STAND! May God be with you, Mr. Dobson.
5 posted on 06/05/2012 1:56:04 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: TIElniff

it’s nice that conservatives in the TEA party are finally getting some support from Catholic and Evangelical leaders on stopping Obamacare (of course, as individuals conservative Christians have been working against it from the beginning).

you’d think these “leaders” would have been out in front against medical slavery from the beginning. oh well, it’s nice to finally have some institutional allies against Obama and his cronies of all stripes.


6 posted on 06/05/2012 1:56:37 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: Sideshow Bob

LOL....please explain for someone who doesn’t understand.


7 posted on 06/05/2012 1:58:00 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: TIElniff

Why was he not involved in the primary? He SHOULD have been on TV daily praising the incredibly great Santorum who if our nominee would be winning in the polls by triple digets. What a shame....Now we are stuck with an awful horrible weak candidate who will result in a very close squeeker election where either one may win.


8 posted on 06/05/2012 1:58:30 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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“Dobson confidentially told Obama that Fred Thompson wasn’t a Christian.”

Two questions:

1. What’s that got to do with this recent stand by Dobson?

2. “Confidentially”? It must not have been too confidential—how did you find out?


9 posted on 06/05/2012 1:58:30 PM PDT by TIElniff (Autonomy is the guise of every graceless heart.)
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To: TIElniff
I think it was Dr. Dobson who recently said "Pray for their removal from office."

I'm up for that.

10 posted on 06/05/2012 1:59:00 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: TIElniff

Dobson will like Romneycare a lot more. I hope Romney takes the abortion provisions out of his system.


11 posted on 06/05/2012 1:59:30 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Sideshow Bob

Why is Dobson talking to BHO about Fred Thompson?


12 posted on 06/05/2012 2:02:21 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: TIElniff
"Hurrah for James Dobson's...."

Little-known fact:
"Pistol" Pete Maravich died in Dr. Dobson's arms on a basketball court - (church pick-up game).

13 posted on 06/05/2012 2:02:50 PM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: dadfly

Yeah, well it’s good to see the Catholics finally on the right side of a political issue. They are fighting a demon of their own creation. For decades the Catholic Church has been in the forefront of the “social justice”/”economic justice” movement begun by the Marxists as a front for imposing their economic views. Now their steadfast support of those liberal unGodly principles is coming back to bite them.


14 posted on 06/05/2012 2:03:10 PM PDT by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: TIElniff

“First they came for the Catholics, but I wasn’t Catholic....”

Way to go, Dr. Dobson.


15 posted on 06/05/2012 2:05:17 PM PDT by bboop (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? St. Augustine)
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To: TIElniff

Dr. Dobson is quite a man of character.. He wrote one of the best books for everyday Christian living.. “When God Doesn’t Make Sense”.


16 posted on 06/05/2012 2:11:35 PM PDT by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia. 2016 starts today!)
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To: momincombatboots

BUMP


17 posted on 06/05/2012 2:16:08 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: TIElniff

Why call him “Mr. President?” He’s an impostor.

Enough with this charade.


18 posted on 06/05/2012 2:16:19 PM PDT by fwdude
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To: Psalm 73

I loved “Pistol” Pete Maravich. Dr. Dobson is not perfect-—as with anyone-—but he has done some wonderful things and written some rational, common sense books.

He is right in this regard. There is a stand that America must make NOW if they have any chance of being a free nation in the future.

He has fought the evil public school indoctrination also...saw it years before I did. He was absolutely right. Public schools are evil also with their BF Skinner/ Marxists/moral relativistic curricula. Get your kids and grandkids out-—they can not fight the indoctrination embedded into the curricula.


19 posted on 06/05/2012 2:17:19 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Sideshow Bob

“Dobson confidentially told Obama that Fred Thompson wasn’t a Christian.”

I don’t know if Thompson is a Christian or not, but I know for damn sure he wasn’t a candidate.


20 posted on 06/05/2012 2:17:53 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Sideshow Bob

You lie.


21 posted on 06/05/2012 2:19:49 PM PDT by Theo (... with Liberty and Justice for all.)
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To: dadfly
you’d think these “leaders” would have been out in front against medical slavery from the beginning. oh well, it’s nice to finally have some institutional allies against Obama and his cronies of all stripes.


Dr Dobson has been number one in the fight against abortion. I was a counselor at a Crisis Pregnancy Center for a few years. It is Dodson's Focus on the Family that supplies all the teaching, research and other essentials to help stop abortions. They have conferences yearly for all the CPC’s accross the nation at no charge. They have done more to stop abortions than any other organization and all free of charge.


But Dobson vowed to take a stand against Obama’s “wicked” surcharge, come what may:

I want to be very careful regarding what I am about to write now. It will not be said flippantly or with malice, but it will reflect the passion of my heart.

I believe in the rule of law, and it has been my practice since I was in college to respect and honor those in authority over us. It is my desire to do so now. However, this assault on the sanctity of human life takes me where I cannot go. I WILL NOT pay the surcharge for abortion services. The amount of the surcharge is irrelevant. To pay one cent for the killing of babies is egregious to me, and I will do all I can to correct a government that lies to me about its intentions and then tries to coerce my acquiescence with extortion. It would be a violation of my most deeply held convictions to disobey what I consider to be the principles in Scripture. The Creator will not hold us guiltless if we turn a deaf ear to the cries of His innocent babies. So come and get me if you must, Mr. President. I will not bow before your wicked regulation.

22 posted on 06/05/2012 2:22:52 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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To: napscoordinator
Why was he not involved in the primary? He SHOULD have been on TV daily praising the incredibly great Santorum who if our nominee would be winning in the polls by triple digets. What a shame....Now we are stuck with an awful horrible weak candidate who will result in a very close squeeker election where either one may win.


He was out front. He endorsed Santorum and was at his Colorado visit. It was on the news. CNN/MSNBC other lefties used him to smear Santorum because they hate him. Try goggling Dobson and you will find some of the most hateful websites. The left has been lying about him for years. The media, even fox (so romney would win) would not cover him much. Dr Dobson has been through hell because of the left. He really deserves our respect.

23 posted on 06/05/2012 2:29:38 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
“Later - for no particular reason - Dobson confidentially told Obama that Fred Thompson wasn’t a Christian.”

LOL....please explain for someone who doesn’t understand.

*****

For those too dense to remember, Dr. James Dobson intentionally sabotaged Fred Thompson's 2008 presidential campaign by leaking a "confidential" email that he didn't think Fred Thompson was a Christian. And then denied that he had done so. At the time, Thompson was leading in most GOP polls.

Several of the GOP candidates had already met with Dobson to share their views (and kiss Dobson's ring), but Thompson had not. Dobson disliked Thompson's views on Federalism and Thompson's opinion that a Right to Life amendment was not likely to pass in Congress.

Mike Huckabee used this fissure to spring up as a contender and the politically naive portion of Evangelicals fell in line behind Tax Hike Mike Huckabee. Thompson's campaign never recovered from the dustup and conservatives were left without a candidate that could address the three facets of conservatism (social, fiscal and defense).

Many conservatives - including this one - blame Dobson for unintentionally sticking the GOP with McCain in 2008. It could even be argued that Dobson's actions in 2008 helped stick the GOP with Romney in 2012.

How's that for an explanation?

Stick to religious outreach, Dr. Dobson. You're a political moron!

24 posted on 06/05/2012 2:30:01 PM PDT by Sideshow Bob
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For those too dense to remember

What a Christian remark

25 posted on 06/05/2012 2:35:57 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Let me ABOs run loose Lou!)
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To: Sideshow Bob
Many conservatives - including this one - blame Dobson for unintentionally sticking the GOP with McCain in 2008. It could even be argued that Dobson's actions in 2008 helped stick the GOP with Romney in 2012.

It's not only James Dobson who has had problems with the perfect being the enemy of the good (or at least of the barely tolerable).

26 posted on 06/05/2012 2:40:07 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Let me ABOs run loose Lou!)
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To: Sideshow Bob
For those too dense to remember

Can you enlighten us with an actual source that details the events or should we rely merely on your fabulous ability to remember things?

27 posted on 06/05/2012 2:40:57 PM PDT by ken in texas (I was taught to respect my elders but it keeps getting harder to find any.)
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To: Sideshow Bob

And hear I thought Thompson failed because he wasn’t actually campaign. IE He never seemed like he really want to be president.


28 posted on 06/05/2012 2:41:47 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Sideshow Bob
Many conservatives - including this one - blame Dobson for unintentionally sticking the GOP with McCain in 2008. It could even be argued that Dobson's actions in 2008 helped stick the GOP with Romney in 2012.

I, too, was livid. Dobson's actions were highly detrimental and naive; and once McCain got the nom, there was no hope. McC still has Stockholm syndrome, in my opinion; he cared more about sparing the Impostor's feeeeelings than the fate of the nation.

29 posted on 06/05/2012 2:42:43 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Real men are not threatened by strong women." -- Sarah Palin)
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To: rovenstinez

Good for him!


30 posted on 06/05/2012 2:44:09 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: ken in texas
Can you enlighten us with an actual source that details the events or should we rely merely on your fabulous ability to remember things?

Search FR on Fred Thompson & Dobson. I've already wasted more of my time and thought on this subject than any Dobson thread deserves.

31 posted on 06/05/2012 2:44:54 PM PDT by Sideshow Bob
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To: Sideshow Bob

Thank you for the explanation. I guess I’m one of those “too dense to remember,” since I didn’t know any of that history!

But, even at that, I still appreciate Dobson’s current stand. There’s always a time for redemption. Maybe he’s making atonement for past errors.

And I appreciate his stand even more in the light of the remarkable silence on the part of the evangelicals on this issue with Obamacare. Only the Catholics seem to be making a stir about it.


32 posted on 06/05/2012 2:45:55 PM PDT by TIElniff (Autonomy is the guise of every graceless heart.)
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To: Sideshow Bob

Thanks. I appreciate your efforts to enlighten us.


33 posted on 06/05/2012 2:52:00 PM PDT by ken in texas (I was taught to respect my elders but it keeps getting harder to find any.)
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To: dadfly

It’s funny that the Catholic leaders supported the Healthcare bill.....


34 posted on 06/05/2012 2:53:33 PM PDT by stockpirate (Romney, Ann Coulter & our ruling republican elites, are Big Government socialists, Grand Ole Sociali)
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To: Sideshow Bob

Dobson’s right. Thompson is a Mormon like romney. I think we might has mormons here who hate Dobson for announcing to the world that Thompson is mormon. This is from Wordpress

Well, James Dobson Is Right, Fred Thompson Is NOT A Christian!

Posted by Job on March 30, 2007

Thompson‘s ”church” believes in the baptismal regeneration heresy. So, Dobson was right because that equates to salvation by works, and makes them a pseudo – Christian cult. Now you have a lot of sanctimonious folk who are protesting against Dobson for “deciding who is a Christian and who isn’t”, well let me tell you folks, you all are going to bust hell wide open if you keep doing this mess, because it isn’t US who says that Thompson isn’t a Christian, and it isn’t US who says that Mormon Mitt Romney isn’t a Christian, but it is the BIBLE, ok? You you generation of vipers, is it the Bible that you have a problem with, or us for believing in it? Thanks to Independent Conservative for setting me straight on this one. Another great thing about Dobson is that I have not seen him active in this “Christian Zionists who do not proselytize Jews” nonsense.

But make no mistake: though Dobson is CORRECT in opposing false Christians like Thompson and Romney, he is still sullied by his overall political activities, including his promoting Gingrich. And it is amazing how so many of the “social conservatives” are throwing their hats in the ring behind either Mormom Mitt Romney or Fred Thompson, KNOWING that their beliefs are not Christian. It just shows that these people are only after seeking a winner who will keep the money and power coming, and not after standing for God and the Bible. Which is why I still say that you are better off turning away from all of these folks and going after God.


35 posted on 06/05/2012 2:54:24 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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To: svcw
And hear I thought Thompson failed because he wasn’t actually campaign. IE He never seemed like he really want to be president.

Seems to me, most of the "fire in the belly" disparagement of Thompson was right here on FR. Fact is, he was the only Republican to turn in a memorable debate performance.

If memory serves, Dobson's comment "leaked" in early October, 2007. Up until that time, Thompson was polling steadily above McCain and the rest - except, I think, Giuliani. Rudy still held the lead, but Fred was doing okay. Then it all changed, with Thompson's supporters bleeding away to join the McCain and Huckabee ranks.

If you can find some other specific factor that was working against Thompson in that time frame (and there may well be, like when the dumbasses at GOA tried to represent Fred's voting record as "anti-gun"), fire away. Until then, I'll hang the blame for that one around Dobson's neck.

36 posted on 06/05/2012 3:12:32 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Sideshow Bob

Why would you slander Dobson?


37 posted on 06/05/2012 3:19:02 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: TIElniff
But, even at that, I still appreciate Dobson’s current stand. There’s always a time for redemption. Maybe he’s making atonement for past errors.

Some of those past errors are quite recent. After all, Dobson attacked Callista Gingrich not long ago (and implicitly, Newt). If socialized medicine and all its ugly trappings are repugnant to this fellow, you'd think he'd avoid helping Romney - even indirectly.

Things that make you go "Hmmm...".

38 posted on 06/05/2012 3:20:56 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: TIElniff

Good for him, but haven’t our tax $ been going to pay for abortions for decades now? I think technically that doesn’t happen (Hyde Amendment?) but it goes to PP etc. & we all know what it ends up being used for. Not to mention pro-choice public school/university indoctrination etc. One of the best things about going Galt must be knowing you are no longer contributing to the genocide.


39 posted on 06/05/2012 3:26:40 PM PDT by TropicanaRose
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To: Sideshow Bob

That is not true. Show your proof, or retract your post.


40 posted on 06/05/2012 3:29:27 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: Psalm 73
That is a widely known fact,especially to sport fans and Evangelical Christians.
41 posted on 06/05/2012 3:32:36 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: Linda Frances

Lord bless you for what you’ve accomplished and your righteous courage. i too believe that obeying the “lawfully” constituted authorities does not require denying God or participation in sin.

when the time comes, we will all have to do, what we have to do. No matter the outcome, He will not forsake us.


42 posted on 06/05/2012 3:36:51 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: Sideshow Bob
Fred Thompson was my Senator. He was a lousy senator and would have been a lousy president.
43 posted on 06/05/2012 3:38:04 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: stockpirate

very. it’s also “funny” that big pharma, wall street, big health insurance companies, big elderly associations like AARP, medical associations, nurses and even doctors—all who were bound to be enslaved—signed on with Obama.

for me, it shows that there is no space between the politicians and their crony capitalist partners in organized churchs, academia and big business.


44 posted on 06/05/2012 3:42:49 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: Charles Martel

I was a Thompson supporter, never heard the Dobson leak.
Yes, his debate performance where great.
Personally he just always seemed tired.


45 posted on 06/05/2012 3:45:03 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Linda Frances

Thompson is a mormon? I never knew that.


46 posted on 06/05/2012 3:49:03 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: TIElniff

Well....since Dobson is no longer head of Focus on the Family, I doubt he’ll have to pay any high price.


47 posted on 06/05/2012 3:56:33 PM PDT by cookcounty ("We're all born idiots, and we only get over that condition as we get less young." -J Goldberg)
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To: svcw

“And hear I thought Thompson failed because he wasn’t actually campaign. IE He never seemed like he really want to be president.”

Nah. His campaign failed because I sent money to him.

This time around, I made a better decision. I sent money to Hermain Cain.


48 posted on 06/05/2012 4:00:23 PM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: svcw

No this does not state that Thompson is a Mormon. It appears to pan Thompson for the controversial belief that regeneration happens in ceremonial baptism, an idea that evangelicals and Protestants usually don’t endorse (as being biblically unfounded). Is this Thompson’s worst deviation from Christian orthodoxy?


49 posted on 06/05/2012 4:01:20 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Let me ABOs run loose Lou!)
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To: dadfly

Teach them to suck up to Obama.


50 posted on 06/05/2012 4:03:06 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Let me ABOs run loose Lou!)
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