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Governor Walker's Victory Spells Doom For Public Sector Unions
Forbes ^ | 6/05/2012 @ 9:36PM | Bill Frezza

Posted on 06/05/2012 8:38:19 PM PDT by Hunton Peck

Public sector unions have reached their high water mark. Let the cleanup begin as the red ink recedes.

Despite a last-minute smear campaign accusing Scott Walker of fathering an illegitimate love child, the governor’s recall election victory sends a clear message that should resonate around the nation: The fiscal cancer devouring state budgets has a cure, and he has found it. The costly defeat for the entrenched union interests that tried to oust Walker in retribution for challenging their power was marked by President Obama’s refusal to lend his weight to the campaign for fear of being stained by defeat. We’ll see how well this strategy of opportunistic detachment serves in the fall as Obama reaches out to unions for support.

This fight is not without precedent. Progressive patron saint Franklin Delano Roosevelt—who more than any other president set our country on a course away from the founding principles of limited government—knew that public sector unions would be the death of the social welfare state he worked so hard to create. Hence, he consistently opposed allowing government employees to unionize. Today, Greece sets the example of what happens when public sector unions gain the upper hand. Can Big Science Bypass Congress and Help Itself to Cash? Bill Frezza Bill Frezza Contributor Prediction: Romney Crushes Obama In Presidential Election Blowout Bill Frezza Bill Frezza Contributor Marriage Laws Must Not Discriminate Against Anyone, Including The Unmarried Bill Frezza Bill Frezza Contributor Stephen King Horrified By His Low Taxes. What's Next? Bill Frezza Bill Frezza Contributor

In 1959 Wisconsin became the first state to allow collective bargaining by government employees. The projected cost of supporting Baby Boomer union retirees now threatens to bankrupt the state, as it does many others. Scott Walker ran for office promising change. The fiscal medicine he is...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: governmentunions; milwaukee; scottwalker; tombarrett; unions; wisconsin; wisconsinrecall; wisconsinshowdown
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1 posted on 06/05/2012 8:38:25 PM PDT by Hunton Peck
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To: Hunton Peck

GOOD!!!!!!!!


2 posted on 06/05/2012 8:40:26 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (A MUST WATCH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KeOLurcQaqI)
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To: Hunton Peck

Let the doomage begin.


3 posted on 06/05/2012 8:40:49 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Hunton Peck

I just hope it is true. The corpse will not be buried easily.


4 posted on 06/05/2012 8:41:40 PM PDT by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: Hunton Peck

o boy... on my way over to DU now to witness the carnage real-time...


5 posted on 06/05/2012 8:42:56 PM PDT by FunkyZero (... I've got a Grand Piano to prop up my mortal remains)
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To: Hunton Peck

This is only the beginning. On to November troops!!

Congratulations to Gov. Walker


6 posted on 06/05/2012 8:43:25 PM PDT by mardi59 (THE REBELLION IS ON!!!)
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To: jdsteel
The corpse will not be buried easily.

Yeah, you thought zombies are dangerous? You ain't seen nuthin' yet!

7 posted on 06/05/2012 8:43:29 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1232 of our ObamaVacation from reality [and what dark chill/is gathering still/before the storm])
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To: Hunton Peck

The sooner SEIU and AFSCME are gone, the better for the taxpayers AND PUBLIC EMPLOYEES.


8 posted on 06/05/2012 8:45:17 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Free Stuff or Freedom! You Decide 2012.)
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To: Hunton Peck

ED SCHULTZ:

“Where did the Democrats go wrong with all the cuts to education and all that?”

LMAO! School districts are saving millions *just* by not having to purchase teacher health-care from the teacher-union-owned health-care company — *THE* biggest, unreported scandal in this entire Wisconsin debate!

ED SCHULTZ = POS


9 posted on 06/05/2012 8:45:33 PM PDT by kevao
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To: Hunton Peck
In 1959 Wisconsin became the first state to allow collective bargaining by government employees.

GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES with collective bargaining....SO unclear on the concept! Nice to see that Walker survived. May it send CLEAR messages to other states that are being strangled by unionized gubmint employees.

10 posted on 06/05/2012 8:45:49 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: Hunton Peck

One can only hope. Leo Gerard musty be having a bad and busy night right now. Gerard essentially owns Obama and OWS, he is a global unionist and worth googling. He advocates union violence.

It will be interesting to see how the union thugs react to this. As with a petulant child, it will not be pretty.

November is going to be good if we unite and keep up the fight.


11 posted on 06/05/2012 8:46:02 PM PDT by TheRhinelander
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To: Hunton Peck

Let me figure this out....

The government worker’s union is protecting the workers from their employers?

The employers are elected governors & legislatures?

The governors and legislatures are elected by voters?

Oh I see, so they need a union to protect them against the entire voting public!!!

Now I get it! Never mind that the average earnings of government workers are $89k+, while the private sector workers earn $68k.


12 posted on 06/05/2012 8:46:06 PM PDT by entropy12 (Hate is the most insidious emotion, it will rot your gut more than anything else.)
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To: null and void

Does anyone here know how the 4 senate races turned out? Thank you.


13 posted on 06/05/2012 8:46:39 PM PDT by Jean2
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To: entropy12

Thank JFK for public unions.


14 posted on 06/05/2012 8:47:30 PM PDT by TheRhinelander
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To: Hunton Peck
"Stroke of the pen. Law of the land. Kinda cool." --Clinton presidential aide Paul Begala, July 1998

Public Service doesn't mean you're to be serviced by the public for life

President Kennedy’s Executive Order 10998, allowing Federal unions, is what opened the door for public sector unions at the state and local level, which is leading to bankruptcy from bloated public sector salaries, benefits, and retirement plans. Businesses that offered plans like many governments have would go bankrupt. Gov’t entities will, too, eventually, but it will be much more painful.

This is why unions should again be outlawed for public employees.

When collective bargaining was brought into American schools in the 1960s, it was a revenue stream and power base for Big Labor. Suddenly, union bosses became more interested in building political muscle than educating children.

At that point the battle between unions and school boards became more focused on salary, benefits, pensions and working conditions for adults, and less about students.

Kids are only pawns in the self-serving union game.

What is the purpose of teacher unions? To work for children? Establish new and better requirements? Push their members to better serve parents and children?

"Despite what some among us would like to believe, it is not because of our creative ideas. It is not because of the merit of our positions. It is not because we care about children. And it is not because we have a vision of a great public school for every child. NEA and its affiliates are effective advocates because we have power. And we have power because there are more than 3.2 million people who are willing to pay us hundreds of millions of dollars in dues each year because they believe that we are the unions that can most effectively represent them, the unions that can protect their rights and advance their interests as education employees" ...National Education Association's just-retired General Counsel Bob Chanin. (The NEA is the County and State Association's parent body).

NEA General Counsel Bob Chanin Says Farewell:

VIDEO

As legendary New York teachers union leader Albert Shanker said, "When school children start paying union dues, that's when I'll start representing the interests of school children."

All government unions should be banned. The idea that government workers need protection from guess who?? THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, is ridiculous. remember, teachers are government employees. Ban government unions.

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15 posted on 06/05/2012 8:48:29 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: Hunton Peck

“Today, Greece sets the example of what happens when public sector unions gain the upper hand.”

In the book Boomerang by Michael Lewis, he reveals that in Greece the retirement age for men is 55 and women is 50. Public sector pensions can be passed down to your children when you die.

Taxes are not collected on election years.

Tax fraud is common but if tax cheats are caught they just offer the collector a bribe.

It would be cheaper to put all Greek travels in taxis instead of the railroad since the salaries for railroad workers are so high. It costs 700 million Euros to run the rail roads but they only bring in 100 million Euros.


16 posted on 06/05/2012 8:51:36 PM PDT by garjog
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To: Hunton Peck

How I wish that were true.


17 posted on 06/05/2012 8:52:49 PM PDT by pallis
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To: Hunton Peck
Chicago machine candidate Barack Obama rode into office to the tune of Hail to the Chief, promising the unions that backed him the gift of card check elections, ending the secret ballot that shields employees from union intimidation. He may well ride into retirement to the tune of On Wisconsin as the era of closed shop unionism comes to an end.

On Wisconsin.

Tonight, we are all Badgers!

18 posted on 06/05/2012 8:52:53 PM PDT by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
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To: Hunton Peck
Governor Walker's Victory Spells Doom For Public Sector Unions

... and for Barack Insane Obama ....

... not that he really cares right now, he's too busy watching the NBA semi-finals. Then after that, gotta follow Tiger in the hunt for another Major. And after that, another summer vacation at Martha's Vineyard .... so Obama really won't be ready for campaigning until late summer ....


19 posted on 06/05/2012 8:54:35 PM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: Hunton Peck

“Governor Walker’s Victory Spells Doom For Public Sector Unions”

I will NEVER have any faith or happiness in headlines like this.

Went through unbridled joy at Reagan’s second term election only to see it all fade. Really believed we had achieved something in ‘94 when we took the House and Senate, only to see the bent one allowed another four years to infest the White House. After Sept 11 I really thought the country had learned and turned - but found out the hard way that it hadn’t.

One thing I have learned is to never underestimate the determination liberal scumbags, nor how gullible the sheeple are when it comes to liberal BS.


20 posted on 06/05/2012 8:54:57 PM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: Jean2

Republicans Scott, Moulton and Petrowski have all been declared winners by the AP. I haven’t seen a call on the Wangaard race.


21 posted on 06/05/2012 8:55:06 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: Hunton Peck
The DUmmies are begining to attack each other over whether or not the Kenyan should have campaigned for Barrett. Here's an interesting quote, cleaned up a bit:

I'm so f@&#ing tired of the anti-Obama bullshit in this f@&#ing place.

I think I'll go visit somewhere much more sane like Free Republic.

22 posted on 06/05/2012 8:56:13 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (I like Obamacare because Granny signed the will and I need the cash)
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To: Hunton Peck

This has been a hell of a night, hasn’t it? I would love to eventually see the country as “Right to Work”.

I went in to DU to see the heads explode ( I wasn’t disappointed) and I was randomly selected to be on their stupid little “Jury” to help decide whether a particular post was too offensive to remain in a thread. I participated in my own form of disruption. FUN FUN FUN!!

I am really a happy girl tonight!!


23 posted on 06/05/2012 8:56:18 PM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: Jean2

Here’s the Milwaukee paper’s latest on the Wangaard race (looks good for Wangaard):

State Senate - District 21 - Special General
June 05, 2012 - 10:53PM CT
Wisconsin - 13 of 60 Precincts Reporting - 22%
Name Party Votes Vote %
Wanggaard , Van (i) GOP 11,301 62%
Lehman , John Dem 7,033 38%


24 posted on 06/05/2012 8:59:49 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: Hunton Peck
... I bet after the final results of the WI election are in ....

....the President of the United States will start whitening his hair to appear to look like an older, wiser elder statesman to gain acceptance to his electorate!!!

..... Yup ...... Watch the color of his hair, this will be funny.....

..... it will become greyer and greyer (or grayer LOL} in the next few weeks ....

25 posted on 06/05/2012 9:00:47 PM PDT by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
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To: Hunton Peck

Thank you.


26 posted on 06/05/2012 9:01:14 PM PDT by Jean2
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To: Hunton Peck

You know that Seuss story about the Grinch and his heart growing two times its size, when he figured out some truth?
I had this flash of other Republican governors growing something two times their size after this whooping of public sector unions, and democrat’s shrinking.
Ok, that’s really lame.
But you get the idea.


27 posted on 06/05/2012 9:03:26 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: canuck_conservative

Amen.


28 posted on 06/05/2012 9:03:26 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: Ditto

On, Wisconsin! On, Wisconsin!
Plunge right through that line!
Run the ball clear ‘round Chicago.
A touchdown sure this time.
On, Wisconsin! On, Wisconsin!
Fight on for her fame
Fight! Fellows! - fight, fight, fight!
We’ll win this game.

On, Wisconsin! On, Wisconsin!
Stand up, Badgers, sing!
“Forward” is our driving spirit,
Loyal voices ring.
On, Wisconsin! On, Wisconsin!
Raise her glowing flame
Stand, Fellows, let us now
Salute her name!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOYus1BE7jk


29 posted on 06/05/2012 9:03:49 PM PDT by garjog
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To: entropy12

The government worker’s union is protecting the workers from their employers?

Well, the employers are the people that they are supposed to serve, the ones who pay the taxes, thus their payroll. The government unions thus protect the “workers” from being accountable to their employers, which is you and I and everyone else.
You see this in some big city police departments, especially in Wisconsin and Minnesota, where political agendas take precedence over professionalism. In such cases the unions’ mission is to advance the political agenda and enforce that the rank and file toe the line, not to negotiate a decent contract. It has been this way since the AFL-CIO removed from their bylaws the ban on Communists being officers in the organization. And Dick Trumka is a Communist.


30 posted on 06/05/2012 9:05:48 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is the operational wing of CPUSA.)
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To: Hunton Peck

For consistency’s sake, “Scott” should be “Fitzgerald” in that list.

Never could keep names straight...


31 posted on 06/05/2012 9:05:52 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: submarinerswife; onyx
I would love to eventually see the country as “Right to Work”.

I agree completely! Right to work means liberty and freedom. Take a look at the convergence in these maps. Where union thugs are in command, Obama was selected. In contrast, the liberty-loving states soundly repudiated socialism and voted for Sarah Palin (and some guy who was her running mate). Ping to onyx for the Sarah Palin reference! :-)


32 posted on 06/05/2012 9:06:01 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: Hunton Peck

For the last year we’ve heard the BOOM of the Unionista Drums, not it’s our turn to call the tune. Here’s a special long-distance dedication going out to you public sector unions:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyFyAqLtHq8

DOOM, not BOOM!


33 posted on 06/05/2012 9:07:28 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Hunton Peck

They work for us. Fetch me a glass of water.


34 posted on 06/05/2012 9:08:04 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Hunton Peck

"Best of all, the myth that union bosses represent their members’ interests has been exposed as a lie. Now that union dues are voluntary, tens of thousands of union members have stopped paying them.  Membership in the Wisconsin chapter of the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees union (AFSCME) has dropped by half.

We've waited so long for this day to come. Thank you Gov. Walker.

35 posted on 06/05/2012 9:10:17 PM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Hunton Peck

Were I a union thug I’d be mighty po’d at leadership.


36 posted on 06/05/2012 9:10:58 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: FlingWingFlyer
The sooner SEIU and AFSCME are gone, the better for the taxpayers AND PUBLIC EMPLOYEES.

It's time to go after the Teacher Unions (not the teaching types but the multi-layers of administration).

37 posted on 06/05/2012 9:14:40 PM PDT by immadashell
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To: Hunton Peck

The whole recall was phony..just a do over of an election the Democrats and unions lost. I am happy that the voters of Wisconsin, including obviously many Democrats, saw through the charade. This whole recall was unions behaving like mean little kids who were just going to take their ball and go home because they didn’t get their way.


38 posted on 06/05/2012 9:14:40 PM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Hunton Peck

The corpse may be dead now, but if its not a head shot, it comes back to life between a couple minutes to a few hours. Walking dead public union.


39 posted on 06/05/2012 9:20:05 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: kevao

“ED SCHULTZ = POS”
When referring to Sgt. Schultz, please clarify the letter P. In his case does it mean...piece, pile, plenty or something else.


40 posted on 06/05/2012 9:21:36 PM PDT by Islander2
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To: Hunton Peck

41 posted on 06/05/2012 9:27:28 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Ditto

“On Wisconsin.
Tonight, we are all Badgers! “
Amen, and mega dittos, Ditto.!!


42 posted on 06/05/2012 9:27:40 PM PDT by Islander2
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To: Hunton Peck

The DU DUMMIES are practicing their vocabulary. Most of their words rhyme with “duck.”


43 posted on 06/05/2012 9:30:23 PM PDT by BAW (I was Tea Party before Tea Party was cool.)
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To: FunkyZero; PJ-Comix
o boy... on my way over to DU now to witness the carnage real-time...
I am going to wait for the DUmmies Funnies update from PJ and Charles.
44 posted on 06/05/2012 9:34:06 PM PDT by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: BAW

When was it that 90% of liberals acquired Tourette’s syndrome?


45 posted on 06/05/2012 9:35:27 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Walking dead public union.


46 posted on 06/05/2012 9:39:18 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: BAW
The DU DUMMIES are practicing their vocabulary. Most of their words rhyme with “duck.”

Lets see:

Auck?
Buck?
Cock?
Duck? no, redundant

Must be.....

















...

...

...

Nope Not going there....
47 posted on 06/05/2012 9:42:14 PM PDT by RedMonqey (Men who will not suffer to self govern, will suffer under the governance of lesser men.)
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To: TheRhinelander
Leo Gerard musty be having a bad and busy night right now. Gerard essentially owns Obama and OWS, he is a global unionist and worth googling.



48 posted on 06/05/2012 9:44:26 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Elle Bee

No, thank the Chicago Machine and Mob. This was their payback.


49 posted on 06/05/2012 9:45:27 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Fred Hayek

I will bet any money if the average worker in private industry was making more than the average worker in government, Walker would have lost.

It is no more complicated than that.

In actual reality the government workers make 30% more than their counterparts in private sector for equivalent work. That is simply unfair, unsustainable and unwise.


50 posted on 06/05/2012 10:23:29 PM PDT by entropy12 (Hate is the most insidious emotion, it will rot your gut more than anything else.)
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