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No More Excuses - the WI recall hand grenade has exploded in Democrats' hands
The American Spectator ^ | June 6, 2012 | Ross Kaminsky

Posted on 06/06/2012 3:25:23 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Frustrated union and Democratic Party leaders from Madison,Wisconsin, to Washington,D.C., while wiping the Badger State recall election bloodbath from their shoes, are bombarding the nation with excuses, mitigating circumstances, and outright denial of their own declining reality.

A leading excuse emanating from Democrats everywhere, not least from the Wisconsin Democratic Party which is still stinging from President Barack Obama's refusal to campaign for their man, is that the campaign of the past and future governor, Scott Walker, substantially outraised and outspent his Democrat challenger, Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett.

It is true that Walker received more financial support, including from outside the state, than Barrett did. But the lesson to learn is not the truism that money can impact elections; it is that Republicans, conservatives, capitalists, and perhaps even a few libertarians were willing and able to match, and then outmatch the famously deep pockets of Big Labor. Republicans were every bit the equal of Democrats in grassroots organizing, in passion for their candidate, and in influencing independent voters without whom the margin of victory would not have been possible.

.....Despite the brave words of Jay Carney and his Oompa Loompas in the low-ratings arm of the news media, this election portends grave danger for Barack Obama's reelection. Beyond prying open the wallets of pro-liberty activists, Democrats and their supporters made a historic strategic error in forcing this recall.

By doing so, they forced the RepublicanParty, which in 2008 nominated as their presidential candidate a man who admitted publicly that he was computer-illiterate while Obama bombarded us on Facebook and with text messages, into the 21st century. With improved organizing, data acquisition and management, and get-out-the-vote efforts, all of which were substantial tactical advantages for the Obama campaign nearly four years ago, the recall hand grenade has exploded in Democrats' hands....

(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: publicsectorunions; statebudgets; walkerrecall; wi; wisconsinshowdown
Wisconsin gubernatorial recall results interactive map
1 posted on 06/06/2012 3:25:34 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Obozo was/ is terrified that this would be viewed as a referendum on him. well guess what, it is a complete repudiation of his asinine policies.
2 posted on 06/06/2012 3:28:42 AM PDT by verga (Party like it is 1773)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Wellllll, it’s time for the dimocraps to start another recall campaign against Governor Walker. They can keep rearranging the deck chairs until the cows come home. After all, why would the unions want to do any real work when they can continue to create turbulence throughout the state.


3 posted on 06/06/2012 3:34:23 AM PDT by Portcall24
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
There was fear that a huge turnout would be bad for Walker. I didn't think so... simply because of the amount of votes Walker received in the primary. I thought this was a good omen.

I live in an area that has a huge democrat population, but the new registered voters that I saw yesterday, while voting, encouraged me greatly.

A sleeping giant has awoke.

4 posted on 06/06/2012 3:37:47 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Where Liberty dwells, there is my Country. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Walker DID raise more out-of-State money than Barrett. However, he raised more IN-STATE money than Barrett’s in-State and out-of-State combined. This was referendum on Obama, Marxism, the Union Thugs, the Government Welfare Cheats, and Liberalism in General, and Wisconsin flipped them the collective bird.


5 posted on 06/06/2012 3:44:30 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Democrats- Forgetting 9/11 since 9/12/01)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The main Democrat excuse is that Wisconsin voters do not like to recall elected officials except for malfeasance in office.

I guess it is ok for the Democrats to continue in la-la land and ignore the real reasons why they lost.

Namely, the majority of voters have had enough of big government spending on lazy government workers of all kinds.


6 posted on 06/06/2012 3:46:23 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It will be interesting to see if other states follow suit, although I suspect that Walker’s courage is rare amongst his peers.


7 posted on 06/06/2012 3:54:38 AM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
DON'T POP THE CHAMPAGNE CORKS JUST YET....

...cuz according to "Herr Schultz" Walker is about to do the "Perp Walk" any day now.

And that's the best the Far Left Moonbats on [PMS]NBC (to include "Mad Cow" Maddow) can come up with?

Toooo funny!!!

Their chins were all dragging on the floor last night as I channel surfed and their display of high dudgeon and denial was priceless.

8 posted on 06/06/2012 4:10:34 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet (l)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Once again liberals are let down by Obama’s failure to act like a leader.

Any union that gives money to Obama after this debacle is insane.


9 posted on 06/06/2012 4:11:52 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Does the spending amount being compared contain the initial cost of the recall effort itself? I mean the petitioning effort to make it occur in the first place. After all, that was a focused anti-Walker event from start to finish and rightfully it should count. ALL the money spent, money to bus in 10’2 of thousands of union goons for each rally, money spent to pay canvassers to write in Mickey Mouse on recall petitions. Are they counting that?


10 posted on 06/06/2012 4:22:44 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (I can see November from Wisconsin)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

For the first time in my life, I am proud of the people of Wisconsin

(Not really, I love Wisconsin)


11 posted on 06/06/2012 4:22:59 AM PDT by rusty millet
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Pathetic Union bosses

...the AFL-CIO wrote on Twitter that “Win or lose, Scott Walker has joined ignominious company in suffering the humiliation of a recall election. 3rd ever.”

...akin to celebrating that the other guy scraped his knuckles while pounding the hell out of you.


12 posted on 06/06/2012 4:22:59 AM PDT by kanawa
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To: Presbyterian Reporter
I guess it is ok for the Democrats to continue in la-la land and ignore the real reasons why they lost. Namely, the majority of voters have had enough of big government spending on lazy government workers of all kinds.

Dems have had to toned down that line of attack against their Republican opponents because they know it is a loser with a majority of the voters.

13 posted on 06/06/2012 4:25:32 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Northern Yankee

>>I live in an area that has a huge democrat population, but the new registered voters that I saw yesterday, while voting, encouraged me greatly.

>>A sleeping giant has awoke.

There is a big element of this in the Paul supporters on the republican side. While Paul’s stance on some things (like, say, Iranian nukes) is seen as crazy by many (put me in that category), we as conservatives really have a lot of common ground with his stances, and it is because of his spending and fiscal responsibility stances that many of his young supporters are with him. Smart young people realize they are the ones who will be left holding the bag when the vote-buying deficit-spending merry go round stops, and they want to limit the damage. Paul’s approach in this area makes sense to them, and I have to agree. He has been the only guy preaching fiscal sanity consistently for a long time.


14 posted on 06/06/2012 4:27:46 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: NonValueAdded

I don’t know about the cost to unions but I believe...correct me if I’m wrong...the state of Wisconsin paid dearly for the cost of running another election.

I didn’t see this asked in exit polls, but it had to grate on people who voted for Walker that as he and they struggle to climb out of their fiscal deep pit, these bozos keep forcing more expenditures on election after election.


15 posted on 06/06/2012 4:50:56 AM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

All I can think of is the waste of state funds all these recalls have produced and for very little change. Once they regain control of the Senate, the GOP should try to change the laws to make recalls more difficult and to pass a measure that requires the Democrats to repay the state for all the money wasted in this sloppy process.

If these thugs think they can bleed state coffers without consequence they’ll just be back at it again the next time.


16 posted on 06/06/2012 4:50:56 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Our economy won't heal until one particular black man is unemployed.)
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To: txrangerette; NonValueAdded
I don’t know about the cost to unions but I believe...correct me if I’m wrong...the state of Wisconsin paid dearly for the cost of running another election......

And they paid through the nose ($520K+)to carry out a recount after the AP and one precinct count were in conflict after the Wisconsin Supreme Court election (of course the official count was correct but the unions wanted a state-wide recount) that would keep the court majority conservative.

17 posted on 06/06/2012 5:00:55 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

“according to “Herr Schultz” Walker is about to do the “Perp Walk” any day now.”

I am waiting to read that that turd exploded on national TV! I don’t watch his show, but I will watch the video clip of the explosion.


18 posted on 06/06/2012 5:01:12 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: kanawa
...the AFL-CIO wrote on Twitter that “Win or lose, Scott Walker has joined ignominious company in suffering the humiliation of a recall election. 3rd ever."

Just, damn.

19 posted on 06/06/2012 5:03:32 AM PDT by Lazamataz (People who resort to Godwin's Law are just like Hitler.)
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To: OrangeHoof
...If these thugs think they can bleed state coffers without consequence they’ll just be back at it again the next time.

It's the democrat playbook -- ball your opponent up in litigation, recounts, recalls -- bleed them financially, physically and emotionally (which has the "added benefit" of keeping people from stepping forward to run).

20 posted on 06/06/2012 5:20:26 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: randog
It will be interesting to see if other states follow suit, although I suspect that Walker’s courage is rare amongst his peers.

I expect we will see some Governors start to reduce unions advantages. One thing is certain had Walker lost, no governor would take on the unions.

21 posted on 06/06/2012 5:37:40 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Is there a pool on when the obligatory, “Well, Wisconsin is different and you can’t put much stock in any results from a state like that,” will be uttered and repeated by Carney and the low-ratings end of the media wing?


22 posted on 06/06/2012 5:43:41 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: CharacterCounts

I think you’re right. The public-sector union bosses seemed to have had an “all-or-nothing” attitude up to this point with their unwillingness to compromise when it came to financial concessions with governments that were facing shortfalls. It’ll be interesting to see if that tactic continues.


23 posted on 06/06/2012 5:44:40 AM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter
I guess it is ok for the Democrats to continue in la-la land and ignore the real reasons why they lost.

Namely, the majority of voters have had enough of big government spending on lazy government workers of all kinds.

I'm liking it. If they won't believe they screwed up, then they don't have any reason to change and they'll make the same mistakes all over again come November.

24 posted on 06/06/2012 5:52:13 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
A 7-8% win translates to 4% of the voters changing sides. Not a terribly big margin. Still much work to do.
25 posted on 06/06/2012 6:07:30 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: RGSpincich; Cincinatus' Wife

Turnout can change a margin from one election to another. If you have people who didn’t get to the polls in one election but share your values and they turnout in the second, just by that you have increased your margin.

The turnout statewide by Walker supporters was reportedly GREAT.

It would have to be, because I heard that pro union cities also had increased turnout. Our turnout beat theirs, though.

This provided a margin that was too large for the cheaters to cheat without getting caught.

Wisconsin is a battleground. It is very divided, very polarized. It can truly be called a purple state, not a reliably blue or red state.


26 posted on 06/06/2012 6:17:51 AM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: txrangerette

Hear! Hear!


27 posted on 06/06/2012 6:44:06 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
It's the democrat playbook -- ball your opponent up in litigation, recounts, recalls -- bleed them financially, physically and emotionally...

Sarah Palin, she had to resign and then they called her a quitter. Then they FOIA'ed all of her emails, employed citizen Joe to help find dirt and then... crickets!!

28 posted on 06/06/2012 7:02:25 AM PDT by thirst4truth (www.Believer.com)
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To: thirst4truth

They’re bullies.

There is no compromise.

A caller to Rush yesterday said, “Beat them, ignore them and move on.”

It is the only way.


29 posted on 06/06/2012 7:20:34 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: rusty millet

Chuckle.

Good Michelle reference.


30 posted on 06/06/2012 8:52:42 AM PDT by commonguymd (Freedom is a myth anymore it seems)
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To: CharacterCounts
I expect we will see some Governors start to reduce unions advantages. One thing is certain had Walker lost, no governor would take on the unions.

Walker's win was the beginning you speak of... explains the crying and death threats...

31 posted on 06/06/2012 9:58:44 AM PDT by GOPJ (Take your little hammer, little sickle and your scary red signs with a fist on it, and go home...)
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