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The Limbaugh Rule Wins Again
http://spectator.org ^ | 6.6.12 | Jeffrey Lord

Posted on 06/06/2012 6:58:54 AM PDT by BO Stinkss

In an election year when voters are fed up with liberalism and socialism -- and when the fate of the country as founded is at stake -- you vote for the most conservative Republican in the primary. Period. -- Rush Limbaugh defining "The Limbaugh Rule" on September 14, 2010 As this is written, Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker -- a conservative under direct challenge by the hard core American Left -- has won his recall fight. Big time. The Limbaugh Rule triumphs. Enough said.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: buckleyrule; limbaugh; limbaughrule
The Limbaugh rule is Rush's answer to the Buckley rule: "The Buckley Rule is, ostensibly, that you vote for the most electable conservative option against a Democrat in November. You vote for the Republican, slash, conservative who can win. To me, this requires clairvoyance….

Well, it's time, ladies and gentlemen, for the Limbaugh Rule to supplant and replace the Buckley Rule, because the Buckley Rule requires clairvoyance."

Who is right? Buckley or Rush?

1 posted on 06/06/2012 6:59:04 AM PDT by BO Stinkss
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To: BO Stinkss

Last night proves the Limbaugh Rule rules...


2 posted on 06/06/2012 7:04:03 AM PDT by GOPJ ( "A Dog In Every Pot" - freeper ETL)
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To: BO Stinkss

Vote your heart in the primary; vote your head in the general election.

Obama or Romney, one or the other, will be the next President of the United States, unless one of them dies, or withdraws, or something.

Sitting it out, voting third party, etc. will probably get Obama elected. Nobody wants to vote for the lesser of two evils. As some of the posters around here have said, it’s still voting for evil. But what if there is no good option to vote for, which is the situation that we find ourselfves in?

I don’t know about anybody else; I can’t find fault with those who just can’t do it. But I’m holding my nose and swinging on the elephant’s tail come November.

May God be with us all as we decide this November.


3 posted on 06/06/2012 7:04:55 AM PDT by chesley (God's chosen intrument - the trumpet)
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To: chesley

Voting for a pro-abortion cult leader is not God’s will in any definition of the word.


4 posted on 06/06/2012 7:11:46 AM PDT by Tolkien (Grace is the Essence of the Gospel; Gratitude is the Essence of Ethics.)
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To: BO Stinkss

The Buckley Rule might be worth something to Conservatives - if Buckley had been a Conservative.


5 posted on 06/06/2012 7:12:56 AM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: BO Stinkss

Neither. If the Limbaugh rule was correct, why didn’t Sharron Angle win, or Christine O’Donell?


6 posted on 06/06/2012 7:18:37 AM PDT by Hildy ("When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - Socrates)
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To: Hildy

Both Angle and O’Donnell were running in deep blue states, as was Walker. But they had little or no record of fiscal accomplishments to run on like Walker...........


7 posted on 06/06/2012 7:36:06 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: shibumi
"The Buckley Rule might be worth something to Conservatives - if Buckley had been a Conservative."

Clearly a top contender for the single most ignorant comment of the day and probably of the year on these forums.

Without WF Buckley and National Review, there would have been no conservative revival. Buckley is the father of the modern conservative movement and National Review, whatever it has become, was the primary vehicle for the expression of conservative ideals throughout the fifties, sixties, seventies and eighties.

Come back when you actually know something.
8 posted on 06/06/2012 7:38:00 AM PDT by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: chesley

It is ok point out the faults of the sanctimonious who allow zealous pride to overshadow pragmatic reality. The primary objective is to defeat Obama.

To conjure up some vain irrational and prideful reason for not voting for Romney or voting some worthless third party joke is to make one’s self harmful and totally irrelevant.


9 posted on 06/06/2012 7:40:58 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: BO Stinkss

Is that old windbag still on the air?


10 posted on 06/06/2012 7:41:03 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: BO Stinkss
That tingle running down his leg just turned to pee...
11 posted on 06/06/2012 7:41:24 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Sudetenland

You are welcome to your opinion.


12 posted on 06/06/2012 8:02:51 AM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: shibumi

What I said is cold hard fact, not “opinion.” Buckley was out on the “Frontline” of the battle and fighting virtually alone in the media world.


13 posted on 06/06/2012 8:10:22 AM PDT by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: bert

This is where you and I differ..

The primary goal is to defeat socialism..

How does voting for a socialist accomplish this goal?

How does not casting my ballot for someone who stands for everything I am against, and against everything I stand for, make me sanctimonious, or filled with zealous pride?

Those of us who state our case are ridiculed, called names and addressed as infants, etc.

Please, in your own words, tell me what part of romneys past political decisions you support.


14 posted on 06/06/2012 8:11:39 AM PDT by joe fonebone (I am the 15%)
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To: al baby
Yhea.. he STILL is, much to your "discomfort". ;-)
thxs heaven for RUSH.
15 posted on 06/06/2012 8:12:00 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (WA DC E$tabli$hment; DNC/RNC/Unionists...Brazilian saying: "$@me Old $hit; different flie$". :^)
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To: chesley

I wish we could just go all out for Romney with warm feelings and a stout heart.

But, if we can’t, I hope we can stop pointing out his perceived negatives and helping Obama.

I just put David Limbaugh’s new book on hold at the library.

If you’ve forgotten 9/10 of the horrors of Obama, you might want to read it. It will remind you.

I remember Crossfire. I remember the elegance of the debate. No interruptions, no goofy stuff. Liberals would come to a mike and debate Buckley. He would sit there, all smiling and supreme and totally decimate their every argument.


16 posted on 06/06/2012 8:17:37 AM PDT by altura
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To: Tolkien

You aren’t voting for Romney; you are voting against Obama.

God only expects us to do what He gives us the opportunity to do. We no longer have an option to vote for a pro-life, Christian presidential candidate, so we go for the lesser evil.

The Jehovah’s Witnesses do not vote because they don’t think God wants them to be so much a part of the world, that they are putting country above God.

But I believe that though we are not “of the world”, we are definitely “in” it, and must do the best we can.

But as I said, previously. I can’t find fault with those who think differently about this. I’m not even sure that I’m right, and may change my mind before I cast my vote.

this is the way I’m thinking now.


17 posted on 06/06/2012 8:24:39 AM PDT by chesley (God's chosen intrument - the trumpet)
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To: Sudetenland

Believe what you will.

But try not to confuse glib verbiage with meaning.

Buckley advocated a highly centralized Federal Government and knowingly endorsed the bureaucracy that it entailed.


18 posted on 06/06/2012 8:36:59 AM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: chesley
Vote your heart in the primary; vote your head in the general election

About sums it up nicely.

19 posted on 06/06/2012 9:06:55 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Article 58)
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To: chesley
"We no longer have an option to vote for a pro-life, Christian presidential candidate"
YES YOU DO... YOU JUST DO NOT HAVE THE GUTS OR PERSONAL CONVICTION TO DO SO.....
20 posted on 06/06/2012 9:10:19 AM PDT by joe fonebone (I am the 15%)
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To: joe fonebone
"We no longer have an option to vote for a pro-life, Christian presidential candidate"

YES YOU DO... YOU JUST DO NOT HAVE THE GUTS OR PERSONAL CONVICTION TO DO SO.....

BULL TO THAT!! YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

Who is the pro-life, Christian conservative candidate THAT CAN WIN? Anybody else is a vote for Obama. Give me his name.

21 posted on 06/06/2012 10:01:32 AM PDT by chesley (God's chosen intrument - the trumpet)
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To: chesley

First off... let me apologize for my wording... as soon as I hit post I realized that I could have done a much better job with that...

Having said that, It appears to me that winning is more important to you than your personal beliefs, that is fine.

Where my problem lies is with those that would chastise and call names because I choose to vote my convictions. My personal beliefs mean more to me than winning.

It is not like I have to choose between GWB and algore, or between ford and carter...

Both men on the ballot have the same convictions and the same political ideals.

The same laws that one has passed the other has passed as well.

This is the worst, most liberal, most socialist, most gun hating, baby killing, regulation passing, big government supporting tax and spend candidate the gop has ever put in front of us.

Not me. Not now. Not ever.


22 posted on 06/06/2012 10:40:38 AM PDT by joe fonebone (I am the 15%)
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To: shibumi

AS I said before, come back when you actually know something.


23 posted on 06/06/2012 10:51:17 AM PDT by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: joe fonebone

Let me apologize, also.

Look, I don’t blame you, or find fault with you for your decision. I’m not sure that I have made the correct one myself, for that matter.

I’m not a Republican. I’m an independent conservative with libertarian leanings. That being said, I’ve always found the Republican party to be the best option, in my opinion.

I don’t care about the Republican winning. I DO care about, seeing as I can’t stop or reverse it, at least limiting the damage to my country and my culture.

To me, this means voting for the lesser of the two ‘evils’ that have a chance to win.

Tell you what, though. If a true conservative third-party gets some mojo, and looks like it has a shot, I’ll hop on board. Heck, even if it looks like it will split the conservative vote and cause the Republican to lose, I might do it, if, and it’s a big if, it looks like it will take enough votes to be, not just a spoiler, but an eye-opener to our Republican masters in Washington.

Like I said, your opinion on this subject is every bit as good as mine.

There is at least one thing to consider. I think that Romney is mistaken on many matters: his religion and his politics. But I think Romney has the best interests of America at heart, for the most part, however in error he may be about means. Obama, on the other hand has set out to deliberately destroy America.

If I’m on a ship, I’d rather have at the wheel an incompetent captain who was trying to steer away from the giant iceberg, than the most competent one who was trying to steer into it.


24 posted on 06/06/2012 10:56:59 AM PDT by chesley (God's chosen intrument - the trumpet)
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To: chesley

There are two camps out there right now..

One camp says that if we get romney, he will direct the republican house and senate to do his bidding... we will get the equivelent of fubo’s first 2 years, with the same crap passing, only with an r after it instead of a d.

The other camp says that if fubo wins, with a pub house and senate, he is essentially sidelined, and can do only as much damage as the pubs allow him to do.

The thought of liberal socialist romney doing as he pleases, directing the house and senate to do his bidding, scares me a helluva lot more than the pubs keeping fubo in check...

and if fubo does get reelected, then the pubs can spring gunwalker on him and tie him up for years, or maybe even get him impeached..

I just do not and cannot believe that romney will do anything remotely conservative, and it will be a reach for him to even be moderate. He is a socialist liberal at heart, and will always be.


25 posted on 06/06/2012 11:12:42 AM PDT by joe fonebone (I am the 15%)
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To: chesley

The country will survive a second Obama term, with a Republican dominated Congress who will oppose and parry his every move, and hog tie his radical agenda.

We won’t survive the whimpering death of the conservative rebellion, due to the corrosive effects of a liberal RINO in the White House who does nothing to roll back his predecessor’s disastrous policies.

Those are the dynamics that will be in play in the next four years, like it or not. I want Obama gone just as bad as the next patriot, but I’m not blind to the fact that we failed to elevate a real conservative to the nomination. That result has set the stage for continuing disaster, and it must be confronted.

What to do? Resist the coming treason with everything you’ve got. It’s the only real choice left to us.


26 posted on 06/06/2012 11:51:52 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Will the country survive a second Obama term. I’d say the probability is yes, but I’m not sure.

Well, we each have to decide. My mind is certainly not set in stone, and may not be till I get my ballot.


27 posted on 06/06/2012 12:04:16 PM PDT by chesley (God's chosen intrument - the trumpet)
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To: Windflier

There’s also the possibility that we won’t get a Republican controlled Congress, or that if we do, the won’t sucumb to the pressures of Washington.

I like to hedge my bets.


28 posted on 06/06/2012 12:05:49 PM PDT by chesley (God's chosen intrument - the trumpet)
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To: joe fonebone

I’m counting on congress to keep romney in check. I don’t think they can do it to Obama unless they get two-thirds of the senate so that impeachment is a real threat. I’m not counting on that.

Hussein will rule by executive order if he is re-elected.


29 posted on 06/06/2012 12:08:50 PM PDT by chesley (God's chosen intrument - the trumpet)
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To: joe fonebone
There are two camps out there right now..

One camp says that if we get romney, he will direct the republican house and senate to do his bidding... we will get the equivelent of fubo’s first 2 years, with the same crap passing, only with an r after it instead of a d.

The other camp says that if fubo wins, with a pub house and senate, he is essentially sidelined, and can do only as much damage as the pubs allow him to do.

The thought of liberal socialist romney doing as he pleases, directing the house and senate to do his bidding, scares me a helluva lot more than the pubs keeping fubo in check...

And here I thought that only I and a handful of others understood the dynamics at work here. Thanks for disabusing me of that depressing thought, Joe.

You are correct in your analysis. This is Art of War 101. If we elect a commander who bears our mark, yet acts in the best interests of the enemy, our side is going to stand down, bend to his will, and go back to sleep. The continuing destruction to our republic will largely go unopposed by those we've elected to represent us.

On the other hand, if the enemy commander is re-elected, our side will be spurred to even greater OPPOSITION, and will fight his disastrous agenda at every turn, with everything they've got. The patriot rebellion will be energized beyond its current strength and vigor, and will continue to steer the political direction of the country.

I've spent a lot of time arguing with fellow conservatives about electing the liberal Romney to the presidency. I'm now more interested in simply laying out the facts about the dynamics at work here. I can't find it within me to advocate for allowing Obama a second term (or electing Romney), but at the same time, I'm aware of the consequences of both potential outcomes.

The most important factor in our near term future is our resistance to the radical Socialism that's destroying us. Electing Romney will turn the volume down on that, and might well turn it completely off. Electing the Marxist again will turn the volume up on the rebellion, and will likely ensure a complete paradigm shift in American history.

Those are the dynamics at work. We at least must be aware of them.

30 posted on 06/06/2012 12:27:26 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: chesley
Will the country survive a second Obama term. I’d say the probability is yes, but I’m not sure. Well, we each have to decide. My mind is certainly not set in stone, and may not be till I get my ballot.

I understand.

My own choice is to maintain my personal convictions and integrity, and not give my vote to any Socialist - no matter what party label they wear. I choose to reject the Hobson's Choice I'm being given. I will not play that game. Instead, I choose resistance.

31 posted on 06/06/2012 12:32:43 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: chesley
I’m counting on congress to keep romney in check.

Then you're failing to see the basic dynamics at work here.

If Romney is elected, he becomes the de facto leader of the Republican party. A Republican dominated Congress will not oppose their 'boss', but they'll surely oppose the other team's 'boss'.

Given that both Romney and Obama have virtually the same agenda, which 'boss' is more likely to get his agenda through Congress? Which 'boss' is more likely to see the long knives come out, should he attempt to bypass Congress? Which 'boss' is more likely to engender elevated opposition to his Socialist agenda from the center-right public?

Do you see the simplicity of this now?

32 posted on 06/06/2012 12:42:46 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Oh, I always understood your position. I just disagree. I do agree that Romney is moderate, I just think (hope?) that he is educable.

Obama, on the other hand, will try to govern without congress if re-elected.

It’s a rock and a hard place right now. There is no viable soft spot for the landing. Hang on to your hat, ‘casue we’re in for a ride.


33 posted on 06/06/2012 12:54:29 PM PDT by chesley (God's chosen intrument - the trumpet)
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To: Windflier

And I respect that choice.

May God be with us all.


34 posted on 06/06/2012 12:55:43 PM PDT by chesley (God's chosen intrument - the trumpet)
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To: chesley
Oh, I always understood your position. I just disagree. I do agree that Romney is moderate, I just think (hope?) that he is educable.

Believing that Romney is a "moderate" is whistling past the graveyard, my friend. His record doesn't indicate that at all. In every substantial way, he's as close to Obama's brand of liberalism as any Democrat.

If he hasn't managed to even learn how to be a Republican at this stage of his life, there's little chance that we'll be able to educate him up the level of conservatism while he's president.

Obama, on the other hand, will try to govern without congress if re-elected.

The Congress is likely going to be Republican dominated in 2013. Obama's gotten away with quite a lot up til now, but that will change when he's facing a Congress who are fed up with him bypassing them and ignoring the Constitution. There's going to be resistance in Congress that you haven't seen in his first term.

It's not really rocket science. Just the traditional game of politics at work. Plus, you must remember that if Obama gets a second term, the Tea Party is going to be on fire across the country. They're already likely to force the removal of wayward Republicans in Congress this November. Even more will bite the dust during the midterm elections in a second Obama term.

No, Obama will not get a free pass to do as he likes, should he be re-elected. More than likely, he'll be hamstrung and hog-tied by the next Congress. Romney, on the other hand, will be given a whole lot of leeway to do what he thinks is best. The Republicans will not have the spine to thwart his agenda - even if it's the mirror image of Obama's.

I agree with you on one thing. We're in for one helluva ride.

35 posted on 06/06/2012 1:23:03 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Well, by “moderate” I meant “liberal”.

We’ll just have to see, but I can’t vote for Obama. In my view, his re-election is the worst possible outcome regardless of what happens with Congress. could be wrong, but I don’t currently think so. You, or somebody, may persuade me yet.


36 posted on 06/06/2012 1:38:09 PM PDT by chesley (God's chosen intrument - the trumpet)
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To: chesley
And I respect that choice. May God be with us all.

Thanks, friend. We sure could use a dose of Divine Providence right about now. Prayers...

37 posted on 06/06/2012 1:39:14 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: chesley
We’ll just have to see, but I can’t vote for Obama. In my view, his re-election is the worst possible outcome regardless of what happens with Congress.

I understand your position. On the bright side, I think a lot of Democrats are thinking the same thing right now. Obama has decimated them, just as badly as he's done to us. Some Obama voting demographics have suffered even worse than before he was elected. They may not come over to our side of the aisle, but a whole lot of them will be too demoralized to make it to the polls this November.

I won't give my vote to either of the Socialists in November, but I don't think my personal choice is going to have any effect on this election. Romney's going to beat the stuffing out of Obama. Maybe even as badly as Reagan beat up Carter in 1980. That's how frightened people are of the prospects of a second Obama term.

I may not like the prospects of a Romney presidency, but I will celebrate my ass off when Obama loses.

38 posted on 06/06/2012 1:49:21 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Hildy

Because neither were conservative enough. Ron Paul was too conservative for most conservatives, so the voting bloc fractured leaving no acceptable candidate with more votes than Mitt.


39 posted on 06/06/2012 2:07:33 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: Windflier

I’ve got a black co-worker who was a big Obama supporter. I lost a bottle of Hennessy to him when Mccain lost. I couldn’t get him to try God’s own tipple, Bushmill’s.

I can’t get him to vote Republican, but he’s very disappointed in Bambi, and plans to sit this one out.

As for thinking your personal choice will make no differnce, you may be right. Mine won’t, I’m in Ala(Roll Tide)bama, which Romney will take handily.


40 posted on 06/06/2012 6:46:03 PM PDT by chesley (God's chosen intrument - the trumpet)
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To: chesley
I can’t get him to vote Republican, but he’s very disappointed in Bambi, and plans to sit this one out.

I'm hearing more and more anecdotal stories like that. I fully expect at least half of my family to stay home on election day. They're not stupid people, and they feel shamed and disappointed by what Obama's done.

The last time I sat down with them at a family get together, I was surprised that they all just listened. I didn't get an argument out of a single one of them, as I outlined the case against Obama. And that was back in April of 2010. I'm sure they're even more disgusted with him now.

As with your friend, I don't expect them to join our side, but they sure won't be going out of their way to support Obama, either.

41 posted on 06/06/2012 6:58:39 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Oh, you are not alone by any means. I have stated many times on this forum that I am standing on a hill above the shining city, watching it tarnish, standing alone.

During the time of the revolution, 30% of the colonists were firmly for the crown, 40% did not give a damn either way, as long as their lives were not disrupted. 30% were for independence. Of that 30%, only half actively participated. 15% of the colonists gave us this great country. Hence my tagline.

This revolution will have no bloodshed. There will be no shooting. This one will occur at the ballot box. It will take courage and conviction to break from the crowd and do what is right.

We have the blueprint. Our founding fathers gave it to us. This country was designed to keep all politics local. That is where we start. We have had successes.

The battle plan is simple, from president all the way down to school board representatives, no more socialists. Period.
Never stay home, vote in every damn election, even the off season ones for school board. Throw them out into the streets.

We that believe in the constitution as written have been issued an ultimatum for this election. Either we go along to get along, resulting in the destruction of our movement, or we revolt and force ourselves to be heard.

No more socialists, not now, not ever.

I am the 15%


42 posted on 06/07/2012 4:36:56 AM PDT by joe fonebone (I am the 15%)
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To: joe fonebone
No more socialists, not now, not ever. I am the 15%

Bless you, brother. I'm right there with you.

43 posted on 06/07/2012 8:37:44 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: chesley
I understand the conundrum that you, I, and millions of others are in.

I wish I knew why God puts us in this situation. I don't have the intelligence to know in and of myself what the right thing to do is when it comes to this election.

As of right now, the answer is no way I can vote for Romney when he is so close to being like Obama in the first place.

Do I vote for Stalin or Hitler? Would God force me to make that choice and how do I know which one is right?

44 posted on 06/07/2012 2:01:48 PM PDT by Tolkien (Grace is the Essence of the Gospel; Gratitude is the Essence of Ethics.)
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To: Tolkien
Well, it's not as bad as Hitler or Stalin. At least neither is shooting citizens that happened to make it out of the womb, yet.

Still, I think Romney is the lesser evil of the two. I can't vote for him, but I can't not vote against Obama, either. 3rd party, or sitting it out, is not voting against Obama.

Unless it is veto-proof, and unified with iron purpose, Congress will be no help.

The choices are bleak, but must be made. God be with you.

45 posted on 06/07/2012 6:41:01 PM PDT by chesley (God's chosen intrument - the trumpet)
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