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MSNBC contributor and former Dem Rep. Harold Ford: Scott Walker got 'lucky'
TheDC ^ | June 6, 2012 | Jeff Poor

Posted on 06/06/2012 8:15:28 AM PDT by Rufus2007

On Wednesday’s broadcast of MSNBC’s “Morning Joe,” former Tennessee Democratic Rep. Harold Ford offered his theory on why last night’s Wisconsin recall election went in Republican Gov. Scott Walker’s favor: He “got a little lucky.”

Ford’s co-panelist, former Vermont Democratic Gov. Howard Dean, blamed money and “Morning Joe” co-host Willie Geist asked why the Democratic side is unable to match the Republican side when it comes to money, since the rules are the same for everyone.

“You know, it’s a good question, and it’s one that will play out and be answered over the coming months,” Ford replied. “I look at a little differently than the governor does. I think the money aspect is important and was important. But I think at some level, you look at what happened in Ohio when Gov. Kasich overreached on collective bargaining rights for voters. They put [it] on the ballot, it was voted down, and he lost that and repented in many ways and changed his ways.”

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TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: haroldford; mediabias; scottwalker; wirecall; wisconsinshowdown
The show goes on at MSNBC... What a dumba**
1 posted on 06/06/2012 8:15:34 AM PDT by Rufus2007
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2 posted on 06/06/2012 8:17:12 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Rufus2007

Got lucky?...We’ll show you who gets lucky in November, Jackass!


3 posted on 06/06/2012 8:17:36 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Rufus2007

Well, I suppose he was lucky. There just weren’t enough people in the old-age homes and the loony bins to bus around to all the polls. And they just couldn’t manage to get more than 115% of the people in Madison to vote. And the dead were feeling a bit lazy yesterday. And . . . .


4 posted on 06/06/2012 8:18:40 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Rufus2007

To win by one vote,I would call lucky.
A blowout......?


5 posted on 06/06/2012 8:19:48 AM PDT by peteyd (A dog may bite you in the ass,but it will never stab you in the back.)
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To: Rufus2007

Money My @$$!!

the unions spent a fortune to no avail....(I hope it broke their retirement funds...)

they need to get their heads out of their collective fundaments....


6 posted on 06/06/2012 8:21:09 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Rufus2007

I had to watch this this morning! Ford was hysterical, Mika suicidal and Howard Dean was living in some fantasy world that spun this as a success for the Dems. I then went on to the quickly balding Chuck Todd who was chewing his tie.


7 posted on 06/06/2012 8:21:23 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: Rufus2007
The truth is people of this country are getting sick and tired of the criminal democrats and their thugs Unions and black panthers..You see fools there are more of us around than you and we are getting tired of the intimidation..Your racist crap will no longer be tolerated..Better get your idiot ready he will be packing to go back to hell come Nov..
8 posted on 06/06/2012 8:21:23 AM PDT by PLD (It is time the freeloaders leave the white house and go back to the hell hole where they came from..)
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To: Rufus2007

good...keep thinking like this, avoid reality and stay ignorant...then lets see what happens in November...


9 posted on 06/06/2012 8:22:29 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5million pay no federal income tax then vote demoKrat)
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To: Rufus2007
Yeah. Lucky he wasn't Barrett.

LOL

10 posted on 06/06/2012 8:23:16 AM PDT by Lazamataz (People who resort to Godwin's Law are just like Hitler.)
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To: jiggyboy

It was Venus passing in front of the sun LOL or maybe he found a penny


11 posted on 06/06/2012 8:23:47 AM PDT by molson209
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To: miss marmelstein

12 posted on 06/06/2012 8:23:48 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Washington could not tell a lie, Nixon could not tell the truth, Obama can't tell the difference.)
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To: Rufus2007

LUCKY???
The MSNBC Klux Klan and the Unions wasted $110 MILLION DOLLARS on these two recalls, and thay have NOTHING to show for it, and 15 months of ginned-up media hate.

The spin today is simply stunning.


13 posted on 06/06/2012 8:25:04 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: Rufus2007

Gov. Walker won by a larger margin last night than he did in the first election. That is not luck. We Bonked some Donkeys last night!!!


14 posted on 06/06/2012 8:26:06 AM PDT by DonkeyBonker
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

LOL....as usual the left has got it’s head up where the sun don’t shine ;)


15 posted on 06/06/2012 8:27:35 AM PDT by MsLady (Be the kind of woman that when you get up in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: Rufus2007

This might date my days.

Remember BO (Before Obama) days, this guy was hailed as the Rising Star in the Dem party as ‘clean and articulate’ different from Jesse Jackson/Al Sharpton’s cloth?

My, how much had changed.....


16 posted on 06/06/2012 8:27:51 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Rufus2007

Harold Ford was talking out of his armpit.


17 posted on 06/06/2012 8:28:13 AM PDT by oyez ( Affordable Health-care is neither affordable nor health-care.)
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To: peteyd
To win by one vote,I would call lucky. A blowout......?

53.2% to 46.3% is a difference of 6.9%. Not close, but not a blowout/landslide, the threshold for which was 20% a few decades ago, but even today, rests at 10%.

18 posted on 06/06/2012 8:28:44 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Well..according to my own calculations...FRAUD made up about 8 points or so in the last hours last night, trying to “steal things” for the demons once again. BUT thankfully—they just “miscalculated” how much they would need to steal it-—and ran out of time—and voters—before the race was called—and realized that to do any more—would look so OBVIOUS..

IOW_-The Lord was on our side this time—and said...NOT THIS TIME—DEMONS!!


19 posted on 06/06/2012 8:28:58 AM PDT by Rca2000 ( Most Americans know more about "American idol" than about the american FLAG...)
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To: Rufus2007
Ford is a big Communist dummy.
20 posted on 06/06/2012 8:30:19 AM PDT by boomop1
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To: Vaquero

Yes, that is an extra little bonus: they won’t have that money to buy themselves anything else.


21 posted on 06/06/2012 8:31:25 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: Rufus2007
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22 posted on 06/06/2012 8:32:37 AM PDT by henkster (Wanted: Politicians willing to say "No" to people. No experience required.)
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To: Rufus2007

It’s all slipping away. Suck it, alphabet networks.


23 posted on 06/06/2012 8:33:23 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: tcrlaf
The MSNBC Klux Klan and the Unions wasted $110 MILLION DOLLARS on these two recalls, and thay have NOTHING to show for it, and 15 months of ginned-up media hate.

Do you have a source for the amounts spent? All I've seen in the MSM is an account of how Walker outspent Barrett 7 to 1.

24 posted on 06/06/2012 8:38:01 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Rca2000
FRAUD made up about 8 points or so in the last hours last night, trying to “steal things” for the demons once again.

Next time they'll spend less on TV and more on buses from Michigan.


25 posted on 06/06/2012 8:43:43 AM PDT by Iron Munro (John Adams: Two ways to enslave a country. One is by the sword, the other is by debt)
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To: Rufus2007

I will tell you who “got lucky”, Ford. Barack Hussein Obama got lucky.

1. He had a wimp for an opponent in 2008.

2. His primary opponents were an overbearing loud mouthed woman with no private sector experience and a Breck Girl.

Obamugabe got lucky.


26 posted on 06/06/2012 8:47:09 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Vaquero
the unions spent a fortune to no avail....(I hope it broke their retirement funds...)

Yep... a fortune that went to fund supply operations, campaign infrastructure and personnel. And... sweet irony here... who's employment numbers will benefit?

HEHEHEHEHEHEH......

27 posted on 06/06/2012 8:49:07 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: ScottinVA

who’s = whose


28 posted on 06/06/2012 8:50:01 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: Rufus2007

Lucky that some left-wing fruitcake didn’t bomb his house?


29 posted on 06/06/2012 8:50:05 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Zhang Fei

Dems wasted some 36 Million on the previous recall election, and the Supreme Court election.

The Unions ALONE spent $60 Million on the Walker Recall, that has been documented in NUMEROUS media stories. The Eight Mil Barrett spent, plus the millions thrown at this in the last week, all add up.

GEE, THE MEDIA WOULDN’T BE LYING TO YOU AGAIN, WOULD THEY?


30 posted on 06/06/2012 8:50:14 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: Cicero

And the dead were feeling a bit lazy yesterday. And . . . .
and apathetic? LOL


31 posted on 06/06/2012 8:50:43 AM PDT by Bitsy
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To: Cicero
There just weren’t enough people in the old-age homes and the loony bins to bus around to all the polls. And they just couldn’t manage to get more than 115% of the people in Madison to vote. And the dead were feeling a bit lazy yesterday. And . . . .

LOL - you're good Cicero.

32 posted on 06/06/2012 8:52:50 AM PDT by GOPJ ( "A Dog In Every Pot" - freeper ETL)
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To: Zhang Fei
All I've seen in the MSM is an account of how Walker outspent Barrett 7 to 1.

Just an observation...

Would that not be contributions to Walker exceeded Barrett 7 to 1?

If that is true and using a rough figure of 60 million, then contributions to Walker were in the 420+ million range.

I think the 7 to 1 claim is incorrect.

.

33 posted on 06/06/2012 9:02:33 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Zhang Fei
According to the Maciver Institute———http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/dem-labor-matrix-wisconsin.png-——the unions alone raised at least 21 million dollars for this recall.
34 posted on 06/06/2012 9:05:20 AM PDT by yadent
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To: tcrlaf
The Unions ALONE spent $60 Million on the Walker Recall, that has been documented in NUMEROUS media stories.

Thanks for the response. However, all I see is $10m from the Hill, as described in the following excerpt:

Unions combined to spend more than $10 million on the race and were the driving force behind the recall effort.

Are you certain this wasn't a case of erroneously adding amounts from overlapping news stories that you read?

35 posted on 06/06/2012 9:07:27 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: TLI
Just an observation... Would that not be contributions to Walker exceeded Barrett 7 to 1? If that is true and using a rough figure of 60 million, then contributions to Walker were in the 420+ million range. I think the 7 to 1 claim is incorrect.

Most media articles say Barrett raised $4m and Walker raised $30m. They're dishonestly leaving out the union number which, from the Hill, is $10m. That would make it $30m to $14m or about 2 to 1.

36 posted on 06/06/2012 9:18:15 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Rufus2007

i guess obama got luck too with 53.7% of the vote...


37 posted on 06/06/2012 9:22:31 AM PDT by sappy (criminaldems)
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To: yadent
According to the Maciver Institute———http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/dem-labor-matrix-wisconsin.png-——the unions alone raised at least 21 million dollars for this recall.

Thanks for the chart. That would make the anti-Walker union number about $16m. Add on Barrett's $4m and we have Walker's $30m to Barrett's $20m, plus something that's hard to value - unlimited free and favorable media coverage for Barrett.

38 posted on 06/06/2012 9:26:34 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: oyez

“Harold Ford was talking out of his armpit.”

Harold really knows something about “lucky,” he’s the only one in his family who is not in jail You just have to wonder who’s left back in Memphis running the “family funeral home.”


39 posted on 06/06/2012 9:34:18 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: All

This is a positive sign for us but let’s not overvalue it.


40 posted on 06/06/2012 9:35:15 AM PDT by newnhdad (Where will you be during the Election Riots of 2012/2013?)
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To: Zhang Fei

You know if the parties were reversed,and the Dems had won,it would be a landslide.
Thanks for the lesson,I need numbers and %.


41 posted on 06/06/2012 9:39:40 AM PDT by peteyd (A dog may bite you in the ass,but it will never stab you in the back.)
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To: vette6387

You know who is lucky??

Harold recently married a beautiful white woman didn’t he??

I would say he is the one who got lucky!!!!

He has been quiet for quite sometime and now coming back out..those Liberal can really make one chuckle...


42 posted on 06/06/2012 9:44:50 AM PDT by haircutter
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To: Zhang Fei

You’ve got to deduct the fraud votes, make an educated guess and figure another 7% would have been added to the conservative side, thus about 14%. I think that is a more accurate number. I certainly don’t think the one dem senator who won actually won, I think he was pushed in due to fraud. I hope someone checks it out.


43 posted on 06/06/2012 9:56:05 AM PDT by calex59
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To: calex59

Let the left keep whistling past the graveyard ignoring the total collaspe of the obama led socialist democrats. I would expect nothing less from the HIDE THE DECLINE PARTY. Viewing some of the whoppers coming from CNN and MSNBC I can see why their ratings are in the toilet.


44 posted on 06/06/2012 10:09:04 AM PDT by spawn44 (mu)
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To: miss marmelstein
Did Harold call the Walker voters “blue eyed devils” like his father call the voters in my district?
45 posted on 06/06/2012 1:05:45 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: boomop1
No Harold is not a Communist, just the son and grandson of arrogant FOOLS.
46 posted on 06/06/2012 1:10:48 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: Rufus2007

All this nonsense about who spent more is ridiculous. The union thugs spent plenty and they picked the fight. I am glad they spent it, gives them less money to support the obamanation.

They stole money from the taxpayer to put on a recall without merit. The money used to hold a recall election could have been used to “help” the poor, feed children or whatever. Just goes to show that they are not interested in anything but their selfish interests.

They should reimburse the taxpayers for their stupidity, but they are so used to stealing the taxpayer’s money that they think it is their right to do so.

Shouldn’t have brought a water gun to a gunfight. Sheesh!

Blessings, Bobo


47 posted on 06/06/2012 4:32:24 PM PDT by bobo1
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To: Rufus2007; fieldmarshaldj; sickoflibs

Kasich caved, he didn’t “repent”. The crap voters overruled him so what choice did he have.

Ford is an idiot. Who would pay him to be on TV? He makes Obama look like a man of substance.


48 posted on 06/06/2012 4:49:13 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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