Skip to comments.Boy Scouts review controversial anti-gay policy
Posted on 06/06/2012 4:13:18 PM PDT by Hunton Peck
The Boy Scouts of America is considering a newly-proposed resolution that calls for ending a 102-year-old policy theyve grappled with in recent years: banning gay scouts and scout leaders, gay advocates told msnbc.com on Wednesday. Though the organization said it would review the proposal, a spokesman insisted there were no plans to change the policy.
The new policy would throw out the national ban and allow local chartering organizations to decide whether or not they would accept gay youth and leaders, said Zach Wahls, an Eagle Scout who has advocated for the change, citing unidentified people he spoke to within the organization.
Boy Scouts of America spokesman Deron Smith said a resolution to amend the national policy to allow each of the Scoutings chartered groups to set its own standards regarding gay members was turned in by a voting member before April 30, the deadline for submitting resolutions.
While well carefully consider this resolution, there are no plans to change this policy, he said noting that resolutions and petitions on the matter were not unique and dated back to 2000, when the Supreme Court heard a challenge over their stance (the justices sided with the Boy Scouts in the lawsuit involving a former Assistant Scoutmaster who was gay, citing the protections of the First Amendment).
Wahls, the son of a lesbian couple, last Wednesday delivered a petition bearing 275,000 signatures calling for an end to the 102-year-old policy and the reinstatement of Jennifer Tyrrell to her post as den mother after she was ousted in April because she is gay.
Wahls said he was absolutely ecstatic when he heard about the proposal to change the policy, saying it would be akin to the repeal of the federal Defense of Marriage Act, which defines marriage as between a man and a...
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(Plus, note the abuse of the word "controversial" to mean "My sicko friends and I don't like it".)
One deduces that, the proposal’s having been made, procedures require they “consider” it.
It will never happen.
Normal people don't consider the long-held, highly admirable moral standards of a private organization, and the attempt to inculcate those standards into boys and young men as “controversial”.
Only propagandizing, hate-filled perverts, intent on the destruction of the moral fiber of America, who call themselves journalists, do.
No, but the fact that some, including some in the media, want it to happen is another indication of how evil the folks who claim to just want “equality” and “compassion” for all really are.
“It will never happen.”
I hope you are correct, but I am not as optimistic as you are.
The Two-Deep leadership has rendered the ban moot. The problem has always been that gay men join the troops and hide where you don’t find the problem until it is too late. It’s easier to deal with them openly.
I think gay Scouts are allowed. Half the time, they are just attention-whoring.
Policy should stand as is. Especially being in the field, the opportunities are too great for pedophiles to take advantage of young boys. Since I have not been involved in scouting since I was a kid, I wonder if they have a two adult policy to prevent where an adult and a kid are alone by themselves ?
Who signed off on Zach's eagle application ?
I don’t think there is a chance this would get approved. Why? The largest group the charters boy scout units is the LDS. And that means lots of money to National. Allow gays, and the LDS creates its own youth program, the BSA loses a ton of members, and you get the idea... so not gonna happen. By the way, I am a District Commissioner.
Make changes to the policy at the risk of killing the organization.I won’t support any childrens organization based on sexual preference.At that age sex need not be any part of it. No queer scout masters, period. These freaks need to join the priesthood if they want free access to young boys
If the Scouts cave on this, it will mean the end of the Scouts.
There’s a poll at the site, at the end of the article, for those who might want to FReep it, asking whether the BSA should change its anti-molester policy.
Right now, the results are:
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Formal name is Youth Protection, but yes, 2 deep leadership.
No Scout, unless they are directly related by blood to the adult, is to be alone with an adult, out of sight of others, at any time, especially in tents.
These are BSA rules and any legitimate Troop organization will enforce this at all times.
This is done for 2 reasons...
1. Protect the Scout from a predator or other abuse.
2. Protect the Adult from a false accusation of abuse.
There is absolutely no reason for a non-related adult to be alone with a Scout, out of sight, in private.
When backpacking with the Scouts, I’m normally the “sweep” or tail-end Charlie, the younger guys just run circles around me.
The chances of being “alone” with a Scout on the trail in that position, are pretty high, but I ALWAYS insist on staying on the trail, out in the open at ALL times.
There’s a picture of Zach at the story. He has a pronounced five-o’clock shadow and his uniform looks a bit too small for him.
I’d hazard a guess that his two lesbian “moms” got together well after he made rank, and worked his mind over fairly dramatically.
I hope so to...
but I have to tell ya, the trends on the recent polling are decidedly going in a gay way. Worse, if you look at the demographics by age, the young simply don’t seem to understand that gay = bad. If we don’t see a massive midlife change from those generations... gay will end being good.
The church I usher at has that same rule as well. In my position as part time instructor at the University, even with adult females, I apply this rule to myself where I either meet with them in an open area or go to email. And I have to say, I have had many very good looking girls in my classes.
> Formal name is Youth Protection, but yes, 2 deep leadership.
> No Scout, unless they are directly related by blood to the adult, is to be alone with an adult, out of sight of others, at any time, especially in tents.