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Boy Scouts review controversial anti-gay policy
msnbc.com ^ | 6/6/2012 | Miranda Leitsinger

Posted on 06/06/2012 4:13:18 PM PDT by Hunton Peck

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Sounds like MSNBC and a malcontent or two are trying to make this into something much more than it really is, but the pressure to make kids more accessible to predators won't let up.

(Plus, note the abuse of the word "controversial" to mean "My sicko friends and I don't like it".)

1 posted on 06/06/2012 4:13:26 PM PDT by Hunton Peck
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To: Hunton Peck

One deduces that, the proposal’s having been made, procedures require they “consider” it.


2 posted on 06/06/2012 4:26:22 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Make sure you notice when I'm being subtly ironic!)
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To: SandRat

Scouting ping


3 posted on 06/06/2012 4:28:18 PM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: Hunton Peck

It will never happen.


4 posted on 06/06/2012 4:29:49 PM PDT by dfwgator
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“Boy Scouts review controversial anti-gay policy.”

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Normal people don't consider the long-held, highly admirable moral standards of a private organization, and the attempt to inculcate those standards into boys and young men as “controversial”.

Only propagandizing, hate-filled perverts, intent on the destruction of the moral fiber of America, who call themselves journalists, do.

5 posted on 06/06/2012 4:34:40 PM PDT by EyeGuy (Armed, judgmental, fiscally responsible heterosexual.)
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To: dfwgator

No, but the fact that some, including some in the media, want it to happen is another indication of how evil the folks who claim to just want “equality” and “compassion” for all really are.


6 posted on 06/06/2012 4:35:58 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: dfwgator

“It will never happen.”

I hope you are correct, but I am not as optimistic as you are.


7 posted on 06/06/2012 4:38:24 PM PDT by Psalm 144 ("I'm not willing to light my hair on fire to try and get support. I am who I am." - Willard M Romney)
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HELL NO!!!
8 posted on 06/06/2012 4:41:12 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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The Two-Deep leadership has rendered the ban moot. The problem has always been that gay men join the troops and hide where you don’t find the problem until it is too late. It’s easier to deal with them openly.
I think gay Scouts are allowed. Half the time, they are just attention-whoring.


9 posted on 06/06/2012 4:42:46 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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10 posted on 06/06/2012 4:51:24 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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Policy should stand as is. Especially being in the field, the opportunities are too great for pedophiles to take advantage of young boys. Since I have not been involved in scouting since I was a kid, I wonder if they have a two adult policy to prevent where an adult and a kid are alone by themselves ?


11 posted on 06/06/2012 5:04:36 PM PDT by CORedneck (This message has been posted without approval from the authorities......)
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Zach Wahls, an Eagle Scout who has advocated for the change,

Who signed off on Zach's eagle application ?

12 posted on 06/06/2012 5:06:18 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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I don’t think there is a chance this would get approved. Why? The largest group the charters boy scout units is the LDS. And that means lots of money to National. Allow gays, and the LDS creates its own youth program, the BSA loses a ton of members, and you get the idea... so not gonna happen. By the way, I am a District Commissioner.


13 posted on 06/06/2012 5:11:13 PM PDT by Tuxedo (Drink Tea - not Kool-Aid.)
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Make changes to the policy at the risk of killing the organization.I won’t support any childrens organization based on sexual preference.At that age sex need not be any part of it. No queer scout masters, period. These freaks need to join the priesthood if they want free access to young boys


14 posted on 06/06/2012 5:19:23 PM PDT by Figment
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If the Scouts cave on this, it will mean the end of the Scouts.


15 posted on 06/06/2012 5:20:07 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: dynachrome; All

There’s a poll at the site, at the end of the article, for those who might want to FReep it, asking whether the BSA should change its anti-molester policy.

Right now, the results are:

Total of 2,194 votes - click on the “Display Comments” bar below to sort comments

61.9%
Yes
1,357 votes

38.1%
No
837 votes


16 posted on 06/06/2012 5:20:20 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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Formal name is Youth Protection, but yes, 2 deep leadership.

No Scout, unless they are directly related by blood to the adult, is to be alone with an adult, out of sight of others, at any time, especially in tents.

These are BSA rules and any legitimate Troop organization will enforce this at all times.

This is done for 2 reasons...

1. Protect the Scout from a predator or other abuse.
2. Protect the Adult from a false accusation of abuse.

There is absolutely no reason for a non-related adult to be alone with a Scout, out of sight, in private.

When backpacking with the Scouts, I’m normally the “sweep” or tail-end Charlie, the younger guys just run circles around me.

The chances of being “alone” with a Scout on the trail in that position, are pretty high, but I ALWAYS insist on staying on the trail, out in the open at ALL times.


17 posted on 06/06/2012 5:23:20 PM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: UriĀ’el-2012

There’s a picture of Zach at the story. He has a pronounced five-o’clock shadow and his uniform looks a bit too small for him.

I’d hazard a guess that his two lesbian “moms” got together well after he made rank, and worked his mind over fairly dramatically.


18 posted on 06/06/2012 5:25:07 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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I hope so to...

but I have to tell ya, the trends on the recent polling are decidedly going in a gay way. Worse, if you look at the demographics by age, the young simply don’t seem to understand that gay = bad. If we don’t see a massive midlife change from those generations... gay will end being good.


19 posted on 06/06/2012 5:27:09 PM PDT by BlueLandRed
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The church I usher at has that same rule as well. In my position as part time instructor at the University, even with adult females, I apply this rule to myself where I either meet with them in an open area or go to email. And I have to say, I have had many very good looking girls in my classes.

> Formal name is Youth Protection, but yes, 2 deep leadership.

> No Scout, unless they are directly related by blood to the adult, is to be alone with an adult, out of sight of others, at any time, especially in tents.


20 posted on 06/06/2012 5:31:42 PM PDT by CORedneck
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