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Cannabis health dangers 'underestimated' (factually wrong)
The Telegraph ^ | 06 Jun 2012 | Stephen Adams

Posted on 06/06/2012 6:14:32 PM PDT by PreciousLiberty

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To: muawiyah
During prohibition there were no legal products.

So the comparison you're making is irrelevant to my original point: "if drugs were legal they'd be vastly less expensive than now" (since now there are no legal products).

61 posted on 06/11/2012 10:57:27 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
Look, the comparison has to be made within the same timeframe ~ you can't compare pre- and post- Prohibition with what went on during Prohibition.

You must have both lawful and unlawful marketing occurring simultaneously.

Today the cheapest rotgut whiskey you can buy in a Virginia state store costs more than the finest moonshine the ol'boys in Wise county can produce.

Sure, they'd like to sell their moonshine for more, but the direct costs, and risks, associated with purchasing moonshine are more than sufficient to offset the direct costs and taxes associated with buying at the state store.

Then, there's "quality" ~ my neighbor always had brand new whiskey tanks installed in his brand new automobile he bought every year to move moonshine from Tennessee to wherever. He was unusual. Most of these guys patch any holes in the tanks with bubblegum, and as far as buying new tanks ~ they just cut 'em out with a torch and install them in another old junker.

The neighbor got a good price for his stuff but he could never get as much as the legal channels paid for legal goods.

He sold numbers as well.

The economics of organized crime are such that they'll always be a niche market vendor, and at best will be stuck in boutique retail operations.

You get the same deal with chop shops. They have to sell for less than the price of a brand new car AND less than the price of the same car of similar vintage and mileage sitting in a licensed dealer's lot.

62 posted on 06/11/2012 11:05:17 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
Technology plays a part independent of all our theorizing and temporizing though.

Where are all the old porn theatres? And haven't you invested in your own LED low temperature grow lights? MJ CAN be grown at home in the most humble of abodes without budging your lightbill.

63 posted on 06/11/2012 11:08:13 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
And haven't you invested in your own LED low temperature grow lights? MJ CAN be grown at home in the most humble of abodes without budging your lightbill.

Further increasing the downward pressure on prices. Thanks for arguing for my position!

64 posted on 06/11/2012 11:21:41 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

As long as you have the slightest incentive to stay home while using MJ the rest of us would like for you to stay that way AND not drive. Get stoned and stay put.


65 posted on 06/11/2012 2:05:09 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Driving while stoned is a bad thing - not that this has anything to do with any subject previously under discussion.
66 posted on 06/11/2012 2:33:13 PM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
My commentaries on the pot threads is a stream of consciousness sort of thing stretching back to the foundations of Free Republic.

Yes, driving while stoned is stupid ~ let's keep it that way, and at home ~ by whatever means necessary.

Fear of having your stash discovered may be one of the techniques we can work with. There are devices out there that can SNIFF your growbox. I would encourage everybody doing the home grown trick to seal those boxes well!

67 posted on 06/11/2012 2:48:28 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
My commentaries on the pot threads is a stream of consciousness sort of thing

Hippie.

68 posted on 06/12/2012 8:12:06 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: PreciousLiberty

Its like when they said marijuana kills brain cells. Then we found out the test subjects were monkeys in gas masks. The monkeys weren’t getting enough oxygen, and what do you know? The lack of oxygen caused the dying brain cells. Maybe holding ones breath should be illegal?

And marijuana does send out some of the same toxins which cause cancer. That is correct, but guess what? There’s also something in marijuana which prevents those toxins from taking effect; cure for cancer anybody? I mean, after all, marijuana was once considered a panaceas (cure all) drug. Jesus was even known to give it to his followers to cure their ailments and enter into the tent of god (which metaphorically, represents our minds). Can you give me an Amen?

Our declaration was written on it, fords first car was made from and ran off of it, and our first president urged us to grow it from shinning sea to shinning sea. And it is absolutely nothing more than a tragedy that something so beautiful can remain so outkasted and abused.

So lets asess this. Legal marijuana causes zero deaths. Illegal it causes death so vastly you cant put it in numbers. The drug war and the gang violence is destroying our nation. And not just ours. If we legalize marijuana mexico has the ability to destroy the drug cartel which has caused our nation and its nation so much harm.

But lets be serious, all of the drugs which are illegal are causing our nation serious problems. And the national drug association has released synthettics of most of these drugs, eitherway.

Hell, even einstein knew that prohibition is the most secret and well known corruption in america. For as long as there is demand, there is supply. So why not take control and ditribute it safely without all the gangs and wars that have left such a devastating mark on our nation. Im tired of people suffering so the guys on top of the pyramids can continue to crack their whips and funnel our money through the ‘trickle up’ system.


69 posted on 06/12/2012 11:18:23 AM PDT by Washingtons-Paine
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