Skip to comments.Student Wears Rosary For His Grandma; School Forbids It, Calls It Gang Sign
Posted on 06/07/2012 1:32:13 AM PDT by mn-bush-man
MINNEAPOLIS (WCCO) A 15-year-old Coon Rapids student says he wears a rosary as a necklace to feel close to his grandmother, who is suffering from breast cancer. But the Anoka-Hennepin School District told him to take the rosary off or face the consequences.
Jake Balthazor says he prays for his grandmothers health.
She has breast cancer, and Im trying to support her for it, he said.
He wears his beliefs proudly. The rosary is one his grandmother gave him, but its also what landed him in the principals office.
They think its like a gang sign, Balthazor said.
A district spokesperson said the school asked Balthazor not to wear the rosary as a necklace again, saying policy forbids it.
The districts student discipline policy forbids any apparel, jewelry, accessories, or matter of grooming which by virtue of its color arrangement, trademark, or any other attribute (as a primary purpose) denotes membership in an organized gang.
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The Catholic Church is now a "gang"?
Does that make the Knights of Columbus a "militia"?
These people need to clean the sight glass in their navels, just so they can see where they are walking.
This is just plain crazy
Yep...won’t be long and there will a rumble between the “Micks” and the crips
You said it.
I would really like to see the Church send in a high official and its lawyers to this school and school district. If the church doesn’t start to fight back it will find that it has lost what respect it still has.
And in the end all of the church’s may become mosques in the end because they didn’t stand up and proudly proclaim their beliefs.
I feel for the young man and his loss, yet even if for the wrong reason, the school is correct in asking the young man to remove the Rosary Beads. I teach in a CATHOLIC SCHOOL, and we do NOT allow the wearing of Rosary Beads. They are NOT an adornment. They are to be used for prayer and prayer alone and it is against the teachings of the Catholic Church to wear them. That said, unfortunately, they have become a gang symbol for many local hoods. Either way, we do NOT allow it. I’m sure the school on question is doing this based strictly on political correctness and the bogus notion of the separation of church and state, but however inadvertant, they are actually right.
Would this be considered as being a "Gang Symbol?"
As a Catholic, I don’t like this rosary wearing that is going on right now anyway. The rosary is not for wearing!!!!!
It's those swords, you know.
Just wear the rosary under his shirt and nobody will know and he can honor his grandmother. How hard is that?
“I feel for the young man and his loss, yet even if for the wrong reason, the school is correct in asking the young man to remove the Rosary Beads. I teach in a CATHOLIC SCHOOL, and we do NOT allow the wearing of Rosary Beads. They are NOT an adornment. They are to be used for prayer and prayer alone and it is against the teachings of the Catholic Church to wear them. That said, unfortunately, they have become a gang symbol for many local hoods. Either way, we do NOT allow it. Im sure the school on question is doing this based strictly on political correctness and the bogus notion of the separation of church and state, but however inadvertant, they are actually right.”
"Hail! Hail! The gang's all here."
I personally think that the teachers union is also a gang and should not be allowed in ANY school.
It’s disrespectful to wear them. His grandmother would be the first to tell him that. If he truly wants it as a reminder, keep it in his pants pocket. Unfortunately, the rosary is becoming a fashion statement for Hollywood celebs and gangmembers alike. Good for the school. It’s not an issue of religious freedom.
Yet how foolish. They in their abject moronic atheism can never grasp that they shall never, ever succeed.
“That said, unfortunately, they have become a gang symbol for many local hoods.”
Could you give any sources? Not that I am at all familiar with the world of Big Sh*tty, Urban Feral habitat and the assorted, sordid, denizens therein. I am just somewhat surprised that social predators would use a religious symbol as an insignia.
It’s the Catholic Gang.It’s international. The big boss is some guy in Italy.
Two years ago, I went to a wake of a friend of mine, who had just past. He was big into ocean fishing, having a cabin boat. When he was laid out, he was dressed with having both a tee-shirt and Hawaiian shirt. I was surprised that the family not only a rosary together in his hands, but had a larger rosary put around his neck. The later really, really took me by surprise.
I don’t have a source, but have heard and read about it on different occassions.
That's not entirely true. Dominican nuns wear a rosary as part of their habit, but it's worn around their waist as a belt, not around their neck. (It's a very large rosary, not an ordinary one.)
But it's not jewelry, and it's not a necklace, and this kid is not a Dominican, so ...
You’re right. They shouldn’t be worn. One thing folks seem to be missing here: the young man is a lutheran, wearing the Rosary with his grandmother in mind. In truth, I would hope that this may lead him to conversion, and I will pray toward that end for this story. But at the moment, he is not Catholic. Let’s pray for him, and his conversion.
The school is correct in that, for most, a Rosary should not be worn. The school is idiotic, however, in attempting to claim that a Rosary is a gang sign. Even if some foolish gang were to try to use it as such, it is now, and has always been, and will always be, a Catholic sacramental.
That is what I was taught in Catholic school back in the 50's. Of course, that was before Vatican II, so I'm not sure what today's rules are.
His grandmother on the weekend.
what do you have against lutherans?
I can't say that I've seen any boy or girl who wasn't likely to be in a gang wearing a basic black set of beads, so I don't know if they'd make any exceptions. Most likely they'd be told be a dean or guidance counselor to wear them under their shirt.
Three of those four are not rosaries. Only the white one on the bottom pick is.
Q: Can a rosary be worn as a piece of jewelry?
A: "Sacred objects, set aside for divine worship by dedication or blessing, are to be treated with reverence. They are not to be made over to secular or inappropriate use, even though they may belong to private persons" (CIC 1171).
Essentially, sacramentals such as rosaries must be treated with respect, particularly if they have been blessed. Reverence is the attitude of awe or respect that is most often given to sacred things. By its very definition, it is an interior disposition that usually cannot be determined by onlookers by appearances alone A person may be wearing a rosary as a statement of faith, to keep it handy for praying throughout the day, or to avoid losing it. Those reasons would be indicative of reverence and would not interfere with the canons directive that sacramentals must be treated reverently.
Ordinarily speaking, then, if someone is spotted wearing a rosary, he should be charitably presumed to be wearing it for just reasons. Only if the rosary is being put to an objectively sordid use (e.g., a rock star is using it as a prop in a music video, obscenely contrasting the symbolic purity of the rosary with the immodest or immoral actions of the performers) can we be sure that the rosary is being treated irreverently. Source:
I suppose if it worn discretely (under a shirt), then it's not a big deal. When you consider the smaller single-decade rosaries that are offered in many colors and metal tones, it's obvious that it is expected that women will wear them as bracelets. So again it comes down to the wearer's intentions.
I wonder what the schools would make of a scapular?
It all depends on "whose" gang symbol you wear.
Thank God for your post. Of course, a rosary is not to be worn as adornment! Here in Texas, the only ones wearing rosaries are the little gangbangers.
The ignorant comments on this thread are unbelievable.
Code of Canon Law 1171
A fine way to expand the symbolism of the beads is to let them remind us of our many relationships, of the bond of communion and fraternity which unites us all in Christ.
ROSARIUM VIRGINIS MARIAE
OF THE SUPREME PONTIFF
JOHN PAUL II
TO THE BISHOPS, CLERGY AND FAITHFUL
ON THE MOST HOLY ROSARY
For the Dominican Sisters of St. Cecilia, the Rosary is listed in our Constitutions as an official part of our habit
From their website
The Obama Halo picture comes to mind...
Exactly! That's what the nuns always taught us.
“Rosaries are the latest gang indicators in the Charlotte area. Catholics don’t wear rosaries but the MS-13 gang does. A white one was taken from a 14-year-old member of MS-13. White means they aren’t conducting criminal activity at that moment. A blue rosary, or war beads, means they are about to do something illegal. “
FYI, just to clarify, the bishops and cardinals in that photo are wearing pectoral crosses, not rosaries.
What about Dominican friars and priests? Isn't a rosary part of their habits, also?
Possibly, but we’re not dealing with Dominican nuns and/or priests. These are obviously not nuns or priests, but youth and and some gangs/gang members are known to wear rosaries.
There was a mall in Texas that prohibits baseball caps being wore backwards. In that area, the schools did not allow earrings on male students. That was a while back and I wouldn’t be surprised if they prohibit rosaries as well. These were all ways to cut back on gang symbols. I have no problem with not allowing an outward display what is known as a gang symbol. If his intentions are pure, he can tuck it in his shirt and can display it off school campus.
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Public schools have way outlived their usefulness.
I could never have imagined WEARING a rosary. It was just too disrespectful a thing to do, to treat it like jewelry. Even now, years after having left the Catholic church, it just does not seem right. I'd still be very taken aback by seeing someone do that. It's just too profane a thing to do to something that has such significance to so many people.
I was also not aware of the gang implications of guys wearing it. That is a good thing to know.
Whatever happened to those little pink ribbons that people wear for breast cancer awareness? That would have been much more appropriate if he really felt the need to make a public issue about it.
My points were that, first, to a lutheran, the Rosary does not hold the significance that it would to a Catholic, and thus, the story wasn’t quite so much a religious liberty being encroached on story, as it initially seemed, and second, as a Catholic, believing as I do, that it is my duty to pray for others, that they would join what I believe with all my heart to be the one true Faith, so that he would hopefully become a faithful Catholic, and go to Heaven. In other words, I was acting in good faith to my Faith. That does not mean that I have something “against lutherans.” It means I have something for Catholicism. Please don’t take me the wrong way. In practice of your faith, whatever it may be, do you not wish that others might see the light, as you do? I do. And I wish you well, even as I pray for the young man’s conversion. What I forgot to add, and should have, is a desire to pray for his grandmother, also.
The church has the money and professional resources to establish a large legal activist institute to protect religious freedom. They don’t do it for a reason. Watch what they do and ignore their flapping lips.
While giving lip service to respect for human life and religious freedom, they pushed socialist medicine knowing the socialists are Marxists who hate religious freedom and human life. Still, Catholic leaders pushed it onto Christians in this society. They are not stupid. They know what they are doing and the alliances they are making and empowering, while they say the opposite.
i understand. i agree that it is the duty of every christian to pray that people see the light, but in whichever of the multitude of forms of christianity is comfortable for the individual.
They are not worn as necklaces, jewelry, decorations.
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