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Mad Men era isn't dead: Half of female workers today believe they are sexually discriminated..
UK Daily Mail ^ | June 7, 2012 | Lucy Waterlow

Posted on 06/07/2012 8:12:21 AM PDT by C19fan

Those who lived through the Fifties and Sixties - or who are reliving it through TV shows like Mad Men - will be familiar with how sexism was once rife in the business world. Women were treated as inferior with chauvinistic jokes and physical contact like a slap on the bottom all part of office life. Many would now hope that times have changed but, according to a new survey released today, this behaviour is not a thing of the past. Researchers found that half of female workers believe they are sexually discriminated against on a daily basis.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: discrimination; harassment
My rule of thumb is to avoid female workers as much as possible. Treat each as a time bomb that could explode on you.
1 posted on 06/07/2012 8:12:27 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan
My rule of thumb is to avoid female workers as much as possible. Treat each as a time bomb that could explode on you.

Doesn't bother me. I work with 12-15 women every day (accounting) age 20-40's on average. More than 4-5 women in a group the subject matter turns to sex every time. Heard jokes and sexual subject matter from them that makes us men look like prudes/pikers.

2 posted on 06/07/2012 8:17:19 AM PDT by trailhkr1 (All you need to know about Zimmerman, innocent = riots, manslaughter = riots, guilty = riots)
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To: C19fan

“The study also revealed a further 43 per cent claim to have been sworn at by colleagues”

Boo-frickin-oooooo

I swear at anybody who deserves it, man or woman.


3 posted on 06/07/2012 8:19:53 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: C19fan
> My rule of thumb is to avoid female workers as much as possible. Treat each as a time bomb that could explode on you.

My observation is that that rule of thumb applies not only in the workplace, but everywhere.

I did my part for the continuation of the species for the past 19 years, and now have a wonderful daughter, and a friendly ex-. I now see no reason to make the rest of my life unpleasant by pretending that I can deal with women on a close-up basis, whether at work or romantically. I love my family and they love me. That's enough. Happy bachelor, here.

4 posted on 06/07/2012 8:21:47 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: C19fan

Excellent rule. Math also helps when reading articles like this. For example, given that half of women workers are less competent than the other half, one could reasonably conclude that “half of female workers” will not be given as many opportunities.


5 posted on 06/07/2012 8:22:44 AM PDT by douginthearmy (Obamagebra: 1 job + 1 hope + 1 change = 0 jobs + 0 hope)
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To: Perdogg
> I swear at anybody who deserves it, man or woman.

Geez, yeah. The only people I don't swear at are the ones I don't consider friends, and therefore are not comfortable with.

If you can't swear at your friends, who the hell CAN you swear at?

6 posted on 06/07/2012 8:25:59 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: C19fan

Only half?


7 posted on 06/07/2012 8:28:35 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: C19fan

Of course they believe it, that is what they are told by the media every day. Heck, this country is terrible and they need to implement marxism to feel better.


8 posted on 06/07/2012 8:29:03 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: C19fan

Cry “Wolf” and let slip the blabbers of whine.


9 posted on 06/07/2012 8:29:06 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Burning the Quran is a waste of perfectly good fire.)
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To: douginthearmy

I thought ALL of our cildren were above average. Maybe not.


10 posted on 06/07/2012 8:31:32 AM PDT by Pecos (Constitution? Oh, you mean that thing we USED to have.)
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To: C19fan

Their problem is, like my wife, they don’t go down all the way...

-Barack Obama


11 posted on 06/07/2012 8:32:32 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (....The days are long, but the years are short.....)
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To: trailhkr1
Doesn't bother me. I work with 12-15 women every day (accounting) age 20-40's on average. More than 4-5 women in a group the subject matter turns to sex every time.

Pictures or it didn't happen.

13 posted on 06/07/2012 8:33:44 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Perdogg

Why should anyone have to be sworn at in the work place? Swear at me and I don’t hear anything more you have to say, you have just made yourself invalid.


14 posted on 06/07/2012 8:34:05 AM PDT by myrabach
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To: dayglored
If you can't swear at your friends, who the hell CAN you swear at?

What do you think elections are for?

15 posted on 06/07/2012 8:34:56 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: C19fan

It’s important to remember that back in the 1950s and 1960s, the men who did these things and got away with it, were up and coming in the business world. Female tolerance for such antics increased markedly if a man was young, handsome, and with prospects for advancement and wealth. “A potential husband on the hoof” was very easy to forgive.

At the same time, the prospective future for many women was very different. For many women, college was to learn how to get a man, and a job was to get a better man, in competition with other women who had the same goals.

What really changed everything was not the feminism propaganda, but that the feminism propaganda was preached to a receptive audience. Women realized that even if they “won” by getting a good husband, they were pretty relegated to having and raising children, *for a dozen years*, doing housework, and being terribly bored the rest of the time.

In earlier times, doing such things was much harder. But with labor saving appliances, and public schools, there was a lot of free time to just sit around and ponder their resentments. Maybe forty years of boredom.

Suddenly “consciousness raising” was all the rage. And on a positive note, at the start the motivation was a good one, that the wife could bring in extra income to raise her families’ prosperity.

But then taxes were raised, and kept being raised, so that a family couldn’t do as well on a single income, and the mother *had* to work just to pay the taxes, and so her family could keep the same relative level of prosperity they had, with just one breadwinner.

So they traded boredom for slavery.


16 posted on 06/07/2012 8:38:18 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: trailhkr1

And the first time it becomes financially viable for them to accuse you of something, they will turn that buddy-buddy crap into a history of sexual harassment. Count on at least one of them.....plan on all.


17 posted on 06/07/2012 8:39:32 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: C19fan

Less attractive women, like less attractive men, are discriminated against.

Attractive people have it easier.
Better manners, hygiene, adornment etc. make a difference.

But brown nosing is apparently the most advantageous characteristic (next to governmentally-mandated advantages).


18 posted on 06/07/2012 8:41:01 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: C19fan
I have never, in my career, seen women slapped on the backside as a normal course of work. Why? Because men know that one uncomfortable trip the HR will be forthcoming immediately. One glace that lingers a second too long, a comment that could be taken the wrong way - men are the target, and there is a strong Double-Standard in place. Women can touch men almost in almost any way, say almost anything - and no man dares return the treatment.

I avoid women in the workplace - like another poster stated “they are a time bomb waiting to go off”. Like cross-dressing men, and flagrantly acting homosexuals, women are a protected class.

If you are a straight white male, you have a target on your back.

19 posted on 06/07/2012 8:41:34 AM PDT by Hodar (Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see.- A. Schopenhauer)
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To: C19fan
half of female workers believe they are sexually discriminated against on a daily basis

Key word here is "believe." There may be absolutely NO evidence to support that belief, but this writer quotes it as though it's established fact.

I "believe" I'm built like Batman on a daily basis. Even though my ever-expanding waistband would seem to contradict that ... I "believe" the buxom barrista at the corner coffee shop has the hots for me. Even though my wife tells me otherwise ... I "believe" I'll have another beer. Even though my wife tells me otherwise ...

20 posted on 06/07/2012 8:47:39 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: C19fan

Half of all workers think their employer has treated them unfairly at some point or another. Life sucks like that. Man up and do your job.


21 posted on 06/07/2012 8:48:39 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: C19fan
it seems to me all this was fixed by the end of the seventies.

It just keeps on going by Al Sharpton/Jessesesque pot-stirrers of the NOW variety.

“Keep looking for something that isn't there”
~Thoughts of the sowers of discord

22 posted on 06/07/2012 8:51:16 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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To: C19fan
Half of female workers today believe they are sexually discriminated against

Yeah, the ugly half...

23 posted on 06/07/2012 8:52:50 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it and the law is what WE say it is.)
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We just had a real good man fired because one of out MOA’s complained about him. His crime, taking her picture (which she posed for) as a prank and and then texting her that he was her stalker. Dumb I know but the MOA was constantly cracking jokes at her coworkers expense and pulling pranks so he felt it was harmless. At first she laughed about it,then demanded an apology which he gave to her. After that he ignored her unless it had to do with questions about patient care.

Three months later she resigns for a better paying position and then informs the supervisor about the picture and he gets fired.

90% of my work environment is female and none of the women who he worked with daily had a problem with him or his comments but yet he was sent packing anyway. Having watched that BS go down I wonder how many males have been fired over crap like that.

24 posted on 06/07/2012 8:54:11 AM PDT by linn37 (Newt supporter here.)
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To: C19fan
This SNL comedy skit explains sexual haarassment perfectly... if you are an ugly guy you will get turned in if you are a good looking guy well no...she likes the attention.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBVuAGFcGKY

25 posted on 06/07/2012 9:00:17 AM PDT by trailhkr1 (All you need to know about Zimmerman, innocent = riots, manslaughter = riots, guilty = riots)
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To: myrabach

You’ve never worked on a USAF flightline have you?

Better have rawhide for skin.

Oldschool mechanics would light you up if you screwed up. ;^)


26 posted on 06/07/2012 9:01:20 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: Hodar
I have never, in my career, seen women slapped on the backside as a normal course of work.

One of my old summer jobs a guy would go up to women and start massaging their shoulders or backs. It does happen.

Women can touch men almost in almost any way, say almost anything - and no man dares return the treatment.

What red blooded male would turn down a woman's sexual advances unless she was hideous?

27 posted on 06/07/2012 9:04:07 AM PDT by trailhkr1 (All you need to know about Zimmerman, innocent = riots, manslaughter = riots, guilty = riots)
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To: C19fan

There’s a big chunk of people in this world who insist that everything bad that ever happens to them happens because they’re in Group X, women, minorities, fat, whatever group they’re in (and everybody is in at least one) that’s why the restaurant sucks and they didn’t get a raise.

Meanwhile the good part of the Mad Men era, scotch in the work place, is most definitely dead.


28 posted on 06/07/2012 9:07:39 AM PDT by discostu (Listen, do you smell something?)
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To: C19fan; All

On another related note, the legal risks this situation - as well as other similar situations - presents to small business are a major hindrance to job creation.

This is a structural problem that will not go away unless and until all the bogus laws surrounding discrimination at the State and Federal level are repealed.


29 posted on 06/07/2012 9:09:46 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: Gaffer
And the first time it becomes financially viable for them to accuse you of something, they will turn that buddy-buddy crap into a history of sexual harassment. Count on at least one of them.....plan on all.

Not worried about it. Several are very good friends and we are all equals job wise. No one has real offices..mostly cubicles. We always work in teams. SH claims has never happened as long as I have been there. Would never start anything with them anyway-have a GF and she would cut my nuts off if I did anything.

30 posted on 06/07/2012 9:11:16 AM PDT by trailhkr1 (All you need to know about Zimmerman, innocent = riots, manslaughter = riots, guilty = riots)
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To: ladyjane

The other half are getting me coffee.


31 posted on 06/07/2012 9:15:36 AM PDT by Kirkwood (It's not a lie. It's a composite.)
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To: trailhkr1
One of my old summer jobs a guy would go up to women and start massaging their shoulders or backs. It does happen.

Maybe in a Summer Job environment, but this stuff would not be tolerated in a professional environment. At a minimum your supervisor would pull you aside and give you a verbal warning to knock it off. And that is the absolute minimum. Maximum, you would be terminated immediately "for cause". The sexual harassment environment has made every company a target for overt, or implied sexual harassment that can be from a glance, to a comment, to physical contact.

It's best to think of women in the workplace as nothing more than office equipment, like a copy machine. If you want to talk, chat and socialize - seek out members of your same gender. Because all it takes is one person to be in the wrong mood - and your career is over. Yes, it's extortion ... govermentally sanctioned extortion. Anything you say, have said or may have ever implied, in any time or circumstances can be brought against you without warning, or cause - at any time.

Rule of thumb - if you value your job, don't socialize with your female co-workers. If you don't care about your job, do whatever you want to do.

32 posted on 06/07/2012 9:20:19 AM PDT by Hodar (Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see.- A. Schopenhauer)
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To: C19fan

Treat each as a time bomb that could explode on you or have a knife in your back.


33 posted on 06/07/2012 9:20:40 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Romney - not Obama - not a Conservative - not a real Christian)
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To: dayglored
I now see no reason to make the rest of my life unpleasant by pretending that I can deal with women on a close-up basis, whether at work or romantically

Your exclusions are far too broad. It is only necessary to avoid women who have grown up watching American television and who have adopted its behavioral norms as their own.

34 posted on 06/07/2012 9:23:42 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: trailhkr1
More than 4-5 women in a group the subject matter turns to sex every time. Heard jokes and sexual subject matter from them that makes us men look like prudes/pikers.

Did a stint in retail management earlier in life, where the workforce was 85% female. I would almost daily walk in on lunchroom conversations which would have made Hugh Hefner blush. Also had to frequently quash cashiers at the front end having open discussions about their menstrual problems in front of customers.


35 posted on 06/07/2012 9:24:42 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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Careful, you might hurt their feelings.


36 posted on 06/07/2012 9:30:40 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Romney - not Obama - not a Conservative - not a real Christian)
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To: C19fan

In my group, Im the only male of six employees and all are ESL people and not born here.
I like my job and work enviroment, but do feel discrimination at at times. . .


37 posted on 06/07/2012 9:36:11 AM PDT by ▀udda▀udd (<< F U B O >> "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Good post.


38 posted on 06/07/2012 9:40:47 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: ├čudda├čudd

I know how it feels.

I’m surrounded by Chinese and Indians in cubicleland. Sometimes I can’t stand it.


39 posted on 06/07/2012 10:17:39 AM PDT by AlmaKing
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To: Kirkwood

LOL


40 posted on 06/07/2012 1:30:30 PM PDT by ladyjane
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