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Sebelius: ‘We’ll be ready’ if Supreme Court strikes healthcare law
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Posted on 06/07/2012 10:48:18 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

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To: jimsin

Exactly!

LOL!!


51 posted on 06/07/2012 1:21:04 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: marshmallow

Kagan or Soto spilled the beans already no doubt.


52 posted on 06/07/2012 1:22:03 PM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: Perdogg

” If declared unconstitutional, they cannot do anything: they cannot tax, they cannot spend. I am wondering how they would enforce a toothless non-existant law.”

Obama’s Executive Orders


53 posted on 06/07/2012 1:22:47 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: sheana

Remember that you are saving $3,000 a year by getting the free contraceptives that Ms. Flucke cried about. (sarcasm)


54 posted on 06/07/2012 1:35:57 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Digger; stephenjohnbanker

Don’t forget that for the first two years of the Obama administration the Pelosi and Reid had over whelming majorities in which they could and DID pass what they and Obama wanted with every Republican voting against it. And since 2010 the Republicans have passed many bills that have ended up being ignored by Harry Reid because he refuses to bring anything, except perhaps naming post offices, for vote in the Senate. And Reid has not even put forth a budget bill to be voted on and then sent to the House for reconciliation.


55 posted on 06/07/2012 1:40:43 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

It has contingencies already built into previous laws. Many of the stimulus packages have other bits and pieces in them they used to set the stage for 0bamacare.

http://www.webmd.com/news/20090217/hefty-health-spending-in-stimulus-bill

Feb. 17, 2009 — The economic stimulus bill signed by President Obama contains more than $140 billion in health care spending...

...Most of the money is targeted to programs providing health coverage to low-income families

...It also, for the first time, directly commits federal dollars to studies comparing medical treatments head-to-head in the hopes of finding out which ones work best or are the most cost-effective.

http://voices.yahoo.com/federal-health-care-grab-stimulus-bill-2638910.html

According to Betsy McCaughey at Bloomberg, provisions have been tucked into the Obama stimulus package that would, in effect, take the ability of making medical decisions away from doctors and grant them to the federal government.

...One new bureaucracy, the National Coordinator of Health Information Technology, will monitor treatments to make sure your doctor is doing what the federal government deems appropriate and cost effective. The goal is to reduce costs and ‘guide’ your doctor’s decisions.”

What is all this health care language doing in an “economic stimulus” bill? It’s simple: It’s a quick-and-dirty way to sweep in Big Brother medicine while avoiding any public debate on the issue.

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/025597_health_care_economic_stimulus.html#ixzz1x8tFxQuv


56 posted on 06/07/2012 1:44:51 PM PDT by EBH (Obama took away your American Dreams and replaced them with "Dreams from My (his) Father".)
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To: GreyFriar

All true.


57 posted on 06/07/2012 1:44:51 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Sub-Driver

They are gonna ignore the ruling.


58 posted on 06/07/2012 1:47:02 PM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: muawiyah

“When they are reduced to peddling ObamaKKKare as “women’s health care” they’ve lost it.

Nothing in there about the elderly, the sick, the poor, the injured, and certainly not the chillun’

Sibelius might as well start checking into the nuthouse. “

This administration is peddling EVERYTHING as a womens’ issue..everything. They treat women like the weakest creatures on earth that need big brother government protection. As a woman, it makes me sick!


59 posted on 06/07/2012 1:47:14 PM PDT by austinaero (Obama or America - can't have both)
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To: Sub-Driver
How not to reform healthcare:

--Send a bunch of politicians from the same party behind closed doors with access to lawyers and lobbyists.

--Seek no input from the opposing party or the American citizens in general.

--Create a byzantine 2400 page+ document that creates a feeding frenzy for special interests.

--Pass it behind closed doors with little time for review.

--Act indignant when the population rejects it, but use the resulting uproar for political gain.

60 posted on 06/07/2012 1:51:38 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: EBH

Thanks for the information. I was all but certain that this was the case. It will boil down to a battle of the states to stop this insidious power grab.


61 posted on 06/07/2012 1:51:47 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Perdogg
If declared unconstitutional, they cannot do anything: they cannot tax, they cannot spend. I am wondering how they would enforce a toothless non-existant law.

Bingo. Just do away with the mandate. Implement everything else. It will explode the deficit unless we tax the rich. It's THE campaign crutch to save his re-election chances. Wh have to let the Bush tax cuts for the rich expire to pay for the SC ruling against the individual mandate.

[BTW, you just have to know that Obama LOVES using the word MAN DATE)

62 posted on 06/07/2012 1:53:39 PM PDT by Go Gordon (It's barack hussein obama - because he doesn't believe in capitalism.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Of course. Barack Hussein Obama (mmm mmm mmm) will try to ignore the court and implement it by fiat. Executive Orders, emergency powers, WHATEVAH.

Because Barack Hussein Obama (mmm mmm mmm) is a Chicago thug.


63 posted on 06/07/2012 2:05:43 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Sub-Driver

“we’ll be ready for contingencies” if it does not.

I bet you will, Supercilious!...Like saying to hell with what the Supreme Court says?...You damn rat bastards need extermination!


64 posted on 06/07/2012 2:05:57 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Sub-Driver

Of course. Barack Hussein Obama (mmm mmm mmm) will try to ignore the court and implement it by fiat. Executive Orders, emergency powers, WHATEVAH.

Because Barack Hussein Obama (mmm mmm mmm) is a Chicago thug.


65 posted on 06/07/2012 2:08:28 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

Not to mention at this point 64% of Americans want Obamacare flushed!


66 posted on 06/07/2012 2:08:54 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: stephenjohnbanker
All the states have to do is to ignore Sibelius if the Health Care Mandate is declared unconstitutional. '

Obama, his rump swab Sibelius et al are not the only ones who are "READY."

67 posted on 06/07/2012 2:18:21 PM PDT by Sons of Union Vets (No taxation without representation!)
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To: Sub-Driver

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvVWLa8aS3w

Die Fahne hoch! Die Reihen fest geschlossen!
SA marschiert mit ruhig, festem Schritt.
Kam’raden, die Rotfront und Reaktion erschossen,
Marschier’n im Geist in unser’n Reihen mit.
Die Straße frei den braunen Batallionen.
Die Straße frei dem Sturmabteilungsmann!
Es schau’n aufs Hakenkreuz voll Hoffnung schon Millionen.
Der Tag für Freiheit und für Brot bricht an!
Zum letzten Mal wird Sturmalarm geblasen!
Zum Kampfe steh’n wir alle schon bereit!
Bald flattern Hitlerfahnen über allen Straßen.
Die Knechtschaft dauert nur noch kurze Zeit!
Die Fahne hoch! Die Reihen fest geschlossen!
SA marschiert mit ruhig-festem Schritt.
Kameraden, die Rotfront und Reaktion erschossen,
Marschieren im Geist in unseren Reihen mit.

The flag on high! The ranks tightly closed!
The SA march with quiet, steady step.
Comrades shot by the Red Front and reactionaries
March in spirit within our ranks.
Clear the streets for the brown battalions,
Clear the streets for the stormtrooper!
Millions are looking upon the swastika full of hope,
The day of freedom and of bread dawns!
For the last time, the call to arms is sounded!
For the fight, we all stand prepared!
Soon Hitler’s banners will fly over all streets.
The time of bondage will last but a little while now!
The flag on high! The ranks tightly closed!
The SA march with quiet, steady step.
Comrades shot by the Red Front and reactionaries
March in spirit within our ranks.


68 posted on 06/07/2012 2:26:13 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: OneWingedShark
Sebelius: ‘We’ll be ready’ if Supreme Court strikes healthcare law

To do what? Actually read the health care bill?

69 posted on 06/07/2012 2:26:32 PM PDT by Sons of Union Vets (No taxation without representation!)
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To: tumblindice

who is that man, and why is he crying?


70 posted on 06/07/2012 2:29:30 PM PDT by MNDude
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To: Sons of Union Vets

Bam! I dare anyone to top this post.


71 posted on 06/07/2012 2:30:35 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Sebelius called healthcare reform "the most important women's health law in at least 50 years"

Because women are the only Americans who matter

72 posted on 06/07/2012 2:35:24 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: Sub-Driver

How does one react to a decision based on the US Constitution?


73 posted on 06/07/2012 2:46:19 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: houeto
That started last summer when the 10% tax at tanning salons took effect.

Institutionalized racism.

74 posted on 06/07/2012 2:46:37 PM PDT by w1andsodidwe (Barrak has now won the contest. He is even worse than Jimmah.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Right you are. Screw the republicans. We need to elect some strong conservatives to congress of whatever party they wish to identify with. A few rabblerousers can’t change congress but might muck up the works and generally get more press than a congress full of RINOs and dems. Can’t hurt.


75 posted on 06/07/2012 2:52:37 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: stephenjohnbanker; Perdogg

You’re not going to get the IRS piece without a passed statute. There are limits to the EO that BO cannot overcome without an old-fashioned outright coup. I’m beginning to think they will lose this fight. They are on the wrong side of history.


76 posted on 06/07/2012 2:54:34 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Perdogg
I am wondering how they would enforce a toothless non-existant law

No matter what the decision is, Obama WILL tax us for it, he will continue it because he knows who is the leader in Congress. He knows he got away with everything with Boehner. The Obama WH will consider their law valid. Remember, we're talking about a White House that never did prove his eligibility to even be President. Can't ignore one part of the Constitution and not another part. Obamacare will continue and it will be up to the next President to choose to stop it. That President (whoever it may be) will be called "heartless" by the democrats. "Heartless" for enforcing the law and abiding by the US Constitution. But then again, we were called "heartless" by our own for trying to enforce laws. We (our side) needs to be consistant when it comes to standing by the US Constitution. Otherwise the left will call us pickers and choosers.

77 posted on 06/07/2012 2:57:02 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: Springfield Reformer

If you simply ignore the validity of the Constitution there are no limits to what can be done. Obama’s in control and nobody has stopped him yet for breaking laws. John Boehner may go and drink a beer with him but that will be all.


78 posted on 06/07/2012 3:01:24 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: SoFloFreeper
My guess is "Executive Order" will save ObamaCare.

The truth is, the only reason Obama hopes the USSC declares ObamaCare to be constitutional is only for the purpose of using the decision in campaign ads and to be abe to tell the republicans "I told told you I was right and you were wrong".

That's the only reason why he cares about the decision.

He's not worried about ObamaCare. That stays no matter what the decision is that comes out of the USSC. Obama is President.

79 posted on 06/07/2012 3:07:37 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: Sub-Driver
Sebelius called healthcare reform "the most important women's health law in at least 50 years" — on par with Medicare.

That's the same Medicare that broke or soon to be broke, right?

80 posted on 06/07/2012 3:22:49 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: Sub-Driver

“Sebelius called healthcare reform “the most important women’s health law in at least 50 years” — on par with Medicare. “

What a pantload.


81 posted on 06/07/2012 3:34:44 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Liberalism: Carrying adolescent values and behavior into adult life.)
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To: fatnotlazy

“So is Obama going to declare a national emergency and institute martial law? I know he’s looking for an excuse.”

I hope so...so we can finally start the “party”. We are so looong overdue.


82 posted on 06/07/2012 3:43:01 PM PDT by max americana
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To: tsowellfan

No, the IRS people are a stodgy lot, but they’’ll need a statutory authority to do anything. He’d have to work around the IRS. Good luck with that. Not gonna happen. He needs the legislation.


83 posted on 06/07/2012 4:17:05 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Puppage
And, if I am 83 years old and need a new heart???????????

Chances aren't good...you would get one now.

84 posted on 06/07/2012 4:27:39 PM PDT by Osage Orange (God is my Co-Pilot.)
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To: austinaero

You will have that “health care women need”...ie, abortion and birth control. But heaven help you if you need chemotherapy or heart surgery. You won’t get it.


85 posted on 06/07/2012 4:30:44 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: GreyFriar

You mean I am paying for Sandra Flukes contraceptives. Haven’t needed them in over 30 years. We made sure that was taken care of. ;)


86 posted on 06/07/2012 4:51:13 PM PDT by sheana
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To: rbg81
If the law is found unconstitutional, and Obama tries to ignore it, or implement it via executive order, he may as well resign, as that will guarantee he will lose big in November.

The fallout from such a move would be unbelievable.

87 posted on 06/07/2012 4:55:26 PM PDT by CharacterCounts (A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
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To: Perdogg

With bullets and drones...or so they think anyway.


88 posted on 06/07/2012 5:00:17 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Election 2012 - America stands or falls. No more excuses. Get involved.)
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To: CharacterCounts

or implement it via executive order


DING, DING!! We have a winner.

You have to remember that maybe half the population doesn’t understand why the Constitution is relevant anymore. All they know is that its some pesky document standing in the way of their free stuff.


89 posted on 06/07/2012 5:01:45 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: Sub-Driver

President Andrew Jackson probably never really said: “John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it!” But now Obama is ready to try that bluff. Thank God that the community organizer is so inept; he has no chance of successfully finessing a Supreme Court smack-down.


90 posted on 06/07/2012 5:02:19 PM PDT by Pollster1 (A boy becomes a man when a man is needed - John Steinbeck)
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To: Sub-Driver

And if Obama loses the election in November he will ignore that too. He will try to stay in the White house as long as he can moving from room to room until he is forcibly removed from the premises.


91 posted on 06/07/2012 5:02:45 PM PDT by Beave Meister (Die Hard Cubs Fan.....if it takes forever.)
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To: fatnotlazy

Its called the Chavez model.

Hugo is hero to these people with the way he leveraged crisis to keep his power.


92 posted on 06/07/2012 5:03:09 PM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: Sub-Driver

Obama doesn’t know what he’s doing....


93 posted on 06/07/2012 5:54:13 PM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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To: w1andsodidwe

gotta acknowledge funny and that was funny. True but funny!


94 posted on 06/07/2012 6:13:10 PM PDT by saywhatagain
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To: thepatriot1
"We've been talking to women throughout the country about the Affordable Care Act and about how this law is already impacting their lives," she said. "What the law meant for them is peace of mind.

So, the answer to your question: Is there ever anything that is good for straight, white, employed, males? is NO according to the pathetic Sebelious who probably only knows the pitiful female wreckage of totally dependent brain dead liberal women--the Flucke model.

Normal women with functional minds and healthy psyches are not among her acquaintances. Most women have all or some subset of fathers, brothers, uncles, husbands and sons.

Most women don't want to sacrifice those loved ones for frightened little female wrecks who will have nervous breakdowns if they don't get their free rubbers and pills (not to mention getting to kill their babies).

95 posted on 06/07/2012 6:28:22 PM PDT by Sal (STAND YOUR GROUND laws are the prosecutor's target--GZ is collateral damage.)
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To: saywhatagain

I want all the damned-eternally, nobama minions to be shackled, in orange jumpsuits, breaking concrete in the hot sun for the rest of their worthless lives. That would be some justice for their anti-Free-America BS. How dare they do what they are doing to this wonderful country.


96 posted on 06/07/2012 6:28:59 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
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And Mitt Romney ...

the "Celestial God-Child from Planet Kolob" ...

will APPLAUD-APPLAUD-APPLAUD-APPLAUD-APPLAUD-APPLAUD ...



if the SCOTUS upholds "Obama-Romney Care" ...



,
97 posted on 06/07/2012 6:33:40 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin will DEFEAT the Obama-Romney Socialist Gay-Marriage Axis of Evil)
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To: Sub-Driver
Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said she is "confident and optimistic" that the high court will uphold the law, but added "we'll be ready for contingencies" if it does not.

Kathleen, beeyotch, if SCOTUS declares it unconstitutional, the only thing open to you is to cease, desist, and dismantle.
98 posted on 06/07/2012 6:35:32 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: fatnotlazy

Actually, I sort of hope he does declare martial law. Then I can directly disobey the traitor.


99 posted on 06/07/2012 6:38:38 PM PDT by Quickgun (Second Amendment. The only one you can put your hands on.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Your contingency is to eat dirt, witch.


100 posted on 06/07/2012 6:46:30 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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