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Republican Wanggaard won't concede defeat to Democrat Lehman in Senate race
www.wtaq.com - News Talk Radio ^ | Wednesday, 06/05/12

Posted on 06/07/2012 6:24:33 PM PDT by harpu

RACINE, WI (WTAQ) - Van Wanggaard says he’s not about to hand control of the Wisconsin Senate to the Democrats, without a thorough review of the votes cast in his recall election.

The Election Night tally showed that Wanggaard lost to Democrat John Lehman by 779 votes, or 1.1 percent out of 72,000 votes cast Tuesday.

But Wanggaard tells WRJN Radio in Racine that at least 600 absentee ballots have still not been counted. The station says there have been reports of voting irregularities throughout Racine County, and problems with the unofficial tally.

So Wanggaard says he’ll hold tight before conceding, and see what the county’s official canvass has to say. That canvass is required to be done by June 15th, and Wanggaard could then seek a recount no later than June 20th.

He said people across Wisconsin and the country have asked him to seek an immediate recount – but he can’t until the canvass is done. If the canvass shows that he lost by more than one-half-of-one-percent, his campaign would have to pay for a recount instead of taxpayers.

Wanggard defeated Lehman in the last Senate election in 2010. If his loss holds up, Democrats will have a one vote majority in the Senate at least until the scheduled fall elections.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: fraud; milwaukee; scottwalker; sourcetitlenoturl; tombarrett; vanwanggaard; wanggaard; wisconsin
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1 posted on 06/07/2012 6:24:40 PM PDT by harpu
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To: harpu

If he stills wants a recount, I’m sure hands will be sat upon and nothing will be done about it until it’s too late.


2 posted on 06/07/2012 6:26:43 PM PDT by wastedyears ("God? I didn't know he was signed onto the system.")
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To: wastedyears

Which is basically what the Dems wanted. Enough control to tie everything up, in hopes of damaging Walker.


3 posted on 06/07/2012 6:31:49 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: harpu

I pray the WI Republican Party attorneys don’t give up on this. They should be able to prove the fraud. They have many eyewitnesses.


4 posted on 06/07/2012 6:32:05 PM PDT by Wisconsinlady (GOV. WALKER WINS AGAIN!!! MUSIC TO MY EARS!!!)
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To: harpu; Impy; Perdogg; Clintonfatigued; unkus; AuH2ORepublican; All

RECOUNT and RECALL
RECOUNT and RECALL
RECOUNT and RECALL

Fight them with their own methods. Enough playing checkers while they play chess.

RECOUNT and RECALL
RECOUNT and RECALL
RECOUNT and RECALL


5 posted on 06/07/2012 6:32:33 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (We may die, but DISCO LIVES FOREVER!!!)
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To: harpu

This one is looking like it was stolen. There were a lot of irregularities with registrations and intimidations at polling places in Racine.


6 posted on 06/07/2012 6:32:56 PM PDT by creeping death
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To: harpu

If this causes the left to waste (lose) more money, then I’m for having the recount take place, even though it’s a moot move to do. That district is vanishing, and it’s being changed to favor Republicans.


7 posted on 06/07/2012 6:35:24 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (The world continues to be stuck in a "all leftist, all of the time" funk. BUNK THE FUNK!)
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

Fight them with their own methods.


8 posted on 06/07/2012 6:37:23 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (We may die, but DISCO LIVES FOREVER!!!)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Fight them with their own methods. Enough playing checkers while they play chess.


Exactly!!!


9 posted on 06/07/2012 6:37:39 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Recount, yes, but a recall is a pipe dream. Isn’t the constitutional rule that one may not start gathering signatures for a recall until one year has passed since the person’s term began? Lehman’s term presumably will begin when he is declared the winner in a final and unappealable judgment, or maybe when his credentials are accepted by the Senate (I’m not sure). If it’s the former, one wouldn’t be able to commence gathering signatures for his recall until June 2013 at the earliest; given that it takes a few months for the recall process to play itself out (what with signature certification, the primary and all), the recall election and swearing in wouldn’t take place until January of 2014 at the earliest; would the GOP really go through with that just to have a 19-14 majority instead of an 18-15 majority for a single year? And if the start date is deemed to be when Lehman has his credentials accepted by the Senate, that means that they might not be able to start gathering signatures until January 2014, and the new senator wouldn’t take office at all (since the recall election wouldn’t be held until the senate had adjourned for the year prior to the November 2014 general election, when the seat would be up). So I seriously doubt that the GOP will risk the negative publicity of a recall election for such a limited benefit.


10 posted on 06/07/2012 6:37:42 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: harpu

I’ve been in “training” (stealing taxpayer dollars) for 3 days. I THOUGHT that Walker and the Fish both won, AND all 3 of our state senators also won. Did I miss something? And if we lose ONE state senator, does this give control to the sub-human filth known as the democraps?


11 posted on 06/07/2012 6:38:19 PM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: harpu

Hope the ballots are in lock down....And GOOD FOR HIM!


12 posted on 06/07/2012 6:38:26 PM PDT by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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To: Doctor 2Brains

Four Senate seats were up for election: 3 recalls and 1 who quit due to family priorities. Dems need only one of those seats to flip the majority to them.


13 posted on 06/07/2012 6:44:45 PM PDT by Ladysmith (The evil that's happening in this country is the cancer of socialism...It kills the human spirit.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican; unkus
“Isn’t the constitutional rule that one may not start gathering signatures for a recall until one year has passed since the person’s term began?”

Put the threat out there - make the RATS play on defense, even if it's (not very) feasible. The blood is in the water.

The time is now to pull out all the stops and fight these RAT c**ks**kers like the we did against the Japanese in August, 1945. They've been very obedient since then.

14 posted on 06/07/2012 6:45:11 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (We may die, but DISCO LIVES FOREVER!!!)
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To: GOPsterinMA

I’d stay away from recalls. Even though they gained a few senate seats in the process, the left’s recall mania backfired when Wisconsin voters finally rebelled against the sore loserism with the Walker vote.


15 posted on 06/07/2012 6:46:34 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Ladysmith

Well, damn! This puts a damper on my mood.


16 posted on 06/07/2012 6:46:46 PM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: Jonty30

“””Which is basically what the Dems wanted. Enough control to tie everything up, in hopes of damaging Walker””””

The Wisconsin Senate doesn’t start it’s next session until next January. Plenty of time to get it done right.


17 posted on 06/07/2012 6:46:46 PM PDT by shelterguy
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To: harpu

Good for him.
Fight back.
In my mind, it’s not if demorats cheat or not....
it’s just how much and can they be caught, shamed, and prosecuted.
How much can it cost to contest? Holding the Senate so Walker can continue setting a great example is worth quite a bit strategically. Those little b’tard cockroach liberals will undermine any conservative efforts. It’s time we take the long term view and chase the rats out of the basement.


18 posted on 06/07/2012 6:48:11 PM PDT by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: Ladysmith

“Four Senate seats were up for election: 3 recalls and 1 who quit due to family priorities.”


If I’m not mistaken, the election to replace the lady who resigned was also technically a recall election, since she resigned after the unions had gathered enough signatures to recall her.


19 posted on 06/07/2012 6:51:10 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

I see your point, but still, I’d LOVE to start shoving their BS back up their asses.

IMO, the typical, modern DemocRAT isn’t a human; they are inferior lifeforms.


20 posted on 06/07/2012 6:51:10 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (We may die, but DISCO LIVES FOREVER!!!)
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To: wastedyears
I just signed up here to follow the election Tuesday night..

I am hoping he gets close enough for a recount! There was something hinkey going on down at the border!

21 posted on 06/07/2012 7:00:45 PM PDT by Desert Palm
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To: bossmechanic

On election day, I was streaming a talk show out of Milwaukee. At some point during the show, I heard that the Democrats were saying they had a “Plan B” in case Walker won. Stealing the Racine seat must have been that “Plan B.”


22 posted on 06/07/2012 7:01:15 PM PDT by kevao
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Actually, I think you’re right.


23 posted on 06/07/2012 7:05:37 PM PDT by Ladysmith (The evil that's happening in this country is the cancer of socialism...It kills the human spirit.)
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To: Jonty30

The WI senate does not recovene until March 2013, so mox nix.


24 posted on 06/07/2012 7:13:10 PM PDT by Sea Parrot (Youth And Brawn Are No Match For Age And Treachery. I'm Old And May Not Fight. I'll Shoot Instead.)
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To: harpu
"Breaker, breaker convoy leader. Take the next exit and head back to Wisconsin - it's not over yet."


25 posted on 06/07/2012 7:21:39 PM PDT by Iron Munro (John Adams: 'Two ways to enslave a country. One is by the sword, the other is by debt')
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To: GOPsterinMA
While this is bad for Van W. personally, it's possibly a very good thing overall.....While the state is more than ready to move past all this recall nonsense and get something done, Democrats are Democrats - they won't be able to help themselves.

I predict continued bad behavior on their part - this "win" emboldens them even though it's pretty much symbolic. And that total fool Mike Tate is now the Senate Majority leader. This is the perfect situation to keep all those people who came out for Walker motivated through November. If that happens, the State Senate flips back, Ron Johnson gets a Republican team mate in the US Senate, and BO gets kicked to the curb. WIn WIn WIn.

26 posted on 06/07/2012 7:24:06 PM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Thank you Wisconsin!!!!)
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To: harpu

good. every legitimate vote should be counted. fraud must be exposed. otherwise, we don’t have a case for election reform.

if he needs help, i’ll support him. and if he runs again, this makes him a keeper.


27 posted on 06/07/2012 7:28:52 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: shelterguy
There's another consideration that most have forgotten. After the 2010 elections GOP controlled the senate 19-14. For some kinds of bills a quorum of 20 were required (and still are as far as I know), hence ALL the Rat senators fled to Illinois as preventing that forum was their only way to stop Walker. They finally returned and Walker's bill passed. Then started the recall efforts. The Rats managed to steal 2 GOP seats prior to this election, but somehow none of their fleas faced recalls.

If the Racine theft holds the GOP will probably gain at least 1 seat in the fall to take back narrow control. BUT can they take 4 seats to get to the 20 supermajority to prevent a relapse of fleas? If the GOP can hold this seat and gain 3 more, and they claim to have 2 or 3 decent chances, they'd get more done next year.

28 posted on 06/07/2012 7:38:41 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: shelterguy
There's another consideration that most have forgotten. After the 2010 elections GOP controlled the senate 19-14. For some kinds of bills a quorum of 20 were required (and still are as far as I know), hence ALL the Rat senators fled to Illinois as preventing that forum was their only way to stop Walker. They finally returned and Walker's bill passed. Then started the recall efforts. The Rats managed to steal 2 GOP seats prior to this election, but somehow none of their fleas faced recalls.

If the Racine theft holds the GOP will probably gain at least 1 seat in the fall to take back narrow control. BUT can they take 4 seats to get to the 20 supermajority to prevent a relapse of fleas? If the GOP can hold this seat and gain 3 more, and they claim to have 2 or 3 decent chances, they'd get more done next year.

29 posted on 06/07/2012 7:38:53 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: unkus
Exactly!!!

Exactly to your Exactly. :0)

30 posted on 06/07/2012 8:27:38 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Sea Parrot

It’s heartening to know that it was a complete waste of the lefts side.


31 posted on 06/07/2012 9:14:25 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Mygirlsmom

“While the state is more than ready to move past all this recall nonsense and get something done...”

“WIn WIn WIn.”

Let’s hope so!!!


32 posted on 06/07/2012 9:16:21 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (We may die, but DISCO LIVES FOREVER!!!)
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To: GOPsterinMA

“Put the threat out there - make the RATS play on defense, even if it’s (not very) feasible. The blood is in the water.”

Absolutely.

Turnabout is fair play.

Take the battle to them on the same terms that they use against us.

Make them fight for every vote, particularly when it looks like they’ve been a-tryin’ to steal some....


33 posted on 06/07/2012 9:31:52 PM PDT by Road Glide
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To: Road Glide

That’s what I’m saying!

Yes, I can see the voters getting turned off in some cases, but, the bastard RATS need to have their own “medicine” force fed to them.


34 posted on 06/07/2012 9:39:30 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (We may die, but DISCO LIVES FOREVER!!!)
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To: GOPsterinMA

no recalls...the rats looked stupid for doing it....we won the big battles....let them have their little win.....they’ll have to work with Scott....Scott is the man....


35 posted on 06/07/2012 11:27:32 PM PDT by cherry
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To: harpu

Good for this guy to hang tough. Make the rats sweat as long as possible, and stay mreciless and relentless in exposing rat vote fraud.


36 posted on 06/07/2012 11:53:36 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: cherry
....let them have their little win

No freaking way.
Sweat out the rats for as long as possible and demand prosecution of every conceivable instance of rat vote fraud, mercilessly and relentlessly. Denad recount after recount, and be sure to "find" a few boxes of "uncounted" ballots. Twist the liberals' nipples until they scream, and then rip their throats out just for a laugh.

No. Do NOT let the scum have any win, ever, without an all-out war.

37 posted on 06/07/2012 11:59:24 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
That is not the Walker way. We need to make sure that people see a distinct difference in the parties and how they behave.

If Wangaard loses the seat, I'd appoint him to the GAB.

38 posted on 06/08/2012 5:10:30 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Thank you Wisconsin!!!!)
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To: harpu

Wangaard is right.

The votes need scrutiny with a 1.1% difference.

We know that the seat is moot—the Senate is not in seession again until January 2013, and if the Dems retain the seat they are in the majority, but an election takes place in Nov. 2012 which will most likely favor Republicans in a newly redistricted seat.

That is not the point.

The point is, any voter fraud by the Dems and the unions needs to be exposed NOW for two reasons:

1. Fraud must always be exposed. The Dems count on the Pubs to always rollover and excuse the Dems’ lawlessness.

2. Fraud that is exposed will strengthen the case for the newly passed voter ID requirement that goes into effect for the Nov. elections in Wisconsin, because you can bet, the unions and the DOJ are going to raise opposition to this.

Folks, the stakes were ENORMOUS last Tuesday in Wisconsin. We are only three days removed, but history will show this was a fork in the road for the survival of our nation.

The unions were very heavily invested in this election to maintain the status quo over the public trough. nmuch more than is known right now.

They are not going to take this massive loss lightly.

And we should take no loss on Tuesday lightly either.

Fight for the seat and to make sure the voting process is vetted. I want to know more about those busses coming in from Michigan that the auto workers set up. There has to be traffic cameras with video, and others who saw this happening.


39 posted on 06/08/2012 5:24:06 AM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. Be Andrew Breitbart.)
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To: cherry

I know.

But a little “get-even-with-’em-ism” is sweet.

“Scott is the man....”

I agree. he’s the goods.


40 posted on 06/08/2012 5:31:38 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (The Glove don't fit.)
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To: exit82
My two burning questions are; did more votes show up for the Lehman v. Wanngaard battle then the Walker v. Barrett contest in 2012? AND, were there more votes in 2012 then 2010 in the Wanngaard v. Lehman contest?

By how many votes did Wanngaard beat Lehman by in 2010?
How many total votes were cast for these two in 2010?
How do the above numbers compare to the 2012 Recall vote for the District 21 State Senate Seat?

2012
Lehman - 36,255
Wanngaard - 35,476
Total - 71,731


Does anybody know!?!

41 posted on 06/08/2012 7:08:20 PM PDT by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: harpu

Why not start the recount first and decide who will pay for it later?


42 posted on 06/09/2012 7:46:55 PM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: harpu

Below extract from article posted November 02, 2010 9:51 pm by Mike Moore: www.journaltimes.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/elections/article_6a922ec6-e6f5-11df-8327-001cc4c002e0.html

RACINE COUNTY - Van Wanggaard ousted Sen. John Lehman in Tuesday’s election, a critical seat in a wave that returned control of the State Senate to Republicans.

Wanggaard had 32,031 votes to the Democratic incumbent’s 28,922 in the 21st District race, according to unofficial results with 100 percent of precincts reporting. Wanggaard, who ended up unofficially with 52 percent of the vote....


43 posted on 06/09/2012 7:58:57 PM PDT by RetMar5
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To: harpu; fieldmarshaldj; Impy; Clintonfatigued; GOPsterinMA; unkus; shelterguy; Ladysmith; ...

Possible evidence of Democrat electoral fraud in Racine County:

http://www.maciverinstitute.com/2012/06/curious-election-documents-found-in-dumpster-in-racine-sheriffs-department-investigating/


44 posted on 06/14/2012 12:05:38 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: AuH2ORepublican; All

Like I said the day after the elections: RECOUNT and RECALL!!!


45 posted on 06/14/2012 6:31:08 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (The Glove don't fit.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

I haven’t been this shocked since Ricky Martin came out of the closet.


46 posted on 06/15/2012 2:12:25 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: harpu; fieldmarshaldj; Impy; Clintonfatigued; GOPsterinMA; unkus; shelterguy; Ladysmith; ...

Senator Van Wanggaard asks for a recount: http://wispolitics.com/1006/large/120615_Wanggaard_Statement.pdf


47 posted on 06/15/2012 9:04:23 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Thank you for the oi ng—this is wondderful news that Van Wanggaard wants a recount.

It will be the best $ 675.00 the GOP ever spent.


48 posted on 06/15/2012 9:37:05 AM PDT by exit82
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To: exit82

Yes, but of the votes that are recounted, how many of them were legitimate?! After a recount Lehman could still end up being ahead because of fraudulant votes. The Cloward-Piven strategy of swamping the voting process was alive and well June 5 when leftist radicals successfully applied it (thus far) in Racine. Regardless of the recount, what occurred in the voting PROCESS needs to be courageously investigated because for some voter fraud is a blood sport. Appropriate levels of Wisconsin and federal law enforcement will need to get involved because the fraud trail will get real ugly. Aggressively investigate what occurred in the process of voting in Racine and go from there. Let Wisconsin take the lead for restoring “We the People”!


49 posted on 06/16/2012 2:02:49 AM PDT by RetMar5
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To: RetMar5

Amen to your post 49!

I am delighted the GOP has decided not to roll over in Racine.

Investigate, validate, and repudiate any illegal votes, then let the chips fall where they may.

June 5th was a political Gettysburg, not only for Wisconsin, but for the whole nation. It will be looked back on as the high water mark of the Democrat Party and their toadies, the labor unions.

For the November election, voter ID is in effect for Wisconsin. The Dems will have limited options for their vote rigging schemes.


50 posted on 06/16/2012 6:49:38 AM PDT by exit82
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