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Posted on 06/07/2012 9:03:16 PM PDT by bd476
UNITED NATIONS (AP) A senior U.N. official says U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon told the Security Council that U.N. patrols in Syria are being deliberately targeted with heavy weapons and armor-piercing ammunition.
The official, speaking on condition of anonymity because Thursday's council meeting was private, said Ban also reported repeated instances of firing close to U.N. patrols, apparently to force them to withdraw.
The official said Ban listed several incidents, including one in a town near Homs, where a heavy weapon round landed 150 meters (yards) from a patrol that was going to meet an opposition contact. Later, the patrol noted a surveillance drone overhead.
Ban also told the council that on June 3, an unoccupied U.N. vehicle near Kafr Zeta was hit with armor-piercing ammunition.
International envoy Kofi Annan blamed the failure of his peace plan primarily on the Syrian government Thursday and told the divided U.N. Security Council there must be "consequences" for those obstructing efforts to end the conflict.
Annan spoke amid more signs that diplomatic efforts to restore peace are floundering: U.N. observers came under fire Thursday as they tried to reach the site of the latest reported mass killing in Syria about 80 people, including women and children who were shot or stabbed.
Annan said the time had come to step up the pressure to keep the violence from spiraling out of control. He urged the council to make clear that there will be "consequences"usually a code words for sanctionsif his six-point peace plan is... End 300 words excerpted from 1,168 words AP article.
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Can’t really give the Syrians any grief on this. I think everybody would like to use some heavy weapons on the UN...
This is something you do not want to see... Fuck islam.
The thing that pisses me off about these UN types is that they will let 15K die while having a boondoggle in a 5 star hotel and acting sanctimonious
I don’t have a problem with this.
Can you believe this horsecrap from Blix?
Hussien had run amok, the WMDs had been shipped to the Bakka Valley in Syria and Hans says he is the man because he finds it funny that he was called a poo poo head while he lives the high life and does nothing to stop the killing.
First class UN boondoggle.
The Syrians could have pantsed them and ridden them like a big boy, and still nothin’.
(please play nice)
Thanks Meatloaf. While traditionally we FReepers are not fans of the U.N., Assad's Syrian troops firing on the invited U.N. delegation watchers, does not seem to have any upside to it.
With China, Russia and Iran joining the Arab League group today warning against any "foreign intervention at all" in Syria, which was then coincidentally or not, followed by the Russian ICBM launch over Israel, some country other than the aforementioned countries in short order will be expected to help.
If the U.N. doesn't take substantive immediate action to prevent further massacres in Syria, it's not high math to figure out which country will be tasked with that intervention.
If the UN is going to usurp the power of Congress and direct our military in foreign affairs, I want them useless and tied in knots.
Amen! The Law Of The Sea Treaty is one of their foremost sacks of crap.
It's a mess. The Israel and the German representatives made very strong, unmistakably clear statements today. With Russia and China aligning themselves with Iran and the Arab League group's "no foreign intervention" message, it's looking very bad for the remaining resistance.
Berlin_Freeper, I only had a few minutes but the videos you linked:
US-Backed Al-Qaeda Unleashed its Bloody Campaign against the Syrian people
Syria : Opposition Terrorists Attacked the UN Observers in the City of Khan Sheikhoun
are anti-American, pro-Assad, pro-Ahmadinejad, pro-Hezbollah, anti-Israel, truther versions of the Syrian massacres.
Is that what you want to see in the news?
Sometimes I think its all about UN types using international dollars to boondoggle on a beach for 10 to 15 years and accomplish nothing, all on our dime.
actually if you look at it hats the record of accomplishment.
Good work, if you can get it /s
Carla Del Ponte comes to mind
Theirs a bunch of concerned UN types living on the Med coast in Libya who are most concerned with Syria
White walls...very cool.
The Russians apparently haven’t moved up to spinners.
If youd like to be on or off, please FR mail me.
So, now, why is Syria and Assad such hot Sh&t, last several months! They’ve committed mass genocide before!
Is it because Mullahs in Iran, who have been backing Syrian regime, and have been killing Iranians in Iran for over 30 yrs to take a hike, like Saddam?
Is it because we want “Assad” to go away in Syria, to be replaced by muzzie brotherhood of some type?
We got issues with Assad, then kill off the Mullahs regime in Iran, AND quit complaining... That’s how things will get rolling. Not to mention some balls on the American side to take action.
Bloody Democracy... even then, we can’t get it right!
sounds like ringing a bell when it’s fired...
>>Cant really give the Syrians any grief on this. I think everybody would like to use some heavy weapons on the UN...
I’ve said for a while now that there are no good guys here, neither the Syrian gov’t, nor the “opposition”. The only possible good guys are some of the regular citizens hunkered down in their basements. The UN just makes it three sides we’d like to see lose, and not just two.
Daniel Greenfield wrote a nice piece on the news reports, truth, and the status of things in Syria here:
THE DEAD BABY MEDIA
“Anyone who has spent time in the Middle East knows quite well that parading around dead bodies is part of the Muslim ceremony of rallying for the next attack. These aren’t funerals, these are corpse parades and the corpses are often of unknown provenance, accompanied by calls for vengeance.”
bd, I suggest you read the Daniel Greenfield commentary I linked just above.
As long as the Saudis want PR massacres, you’ll see more and more of them. The insurgents infiltrating Syria want all the press they can get.. While I view anything the Russian media puts out as suspect. On this issue they’re correct.
Assad isn’t perfect by any means. Still there was relative stability in the country before the Saudis started pushing the Arab Spring while putting down the same “spring” in Bahrain. I don’t see the UN getting involved there.
The best choice is for the world not to get involved in proxy wars on behalf on Iran and the Saudis. As a consolation prize, not getting involved will mean the Christian communities won’t be harmed.
Not a surprise. I’ll be glad when we can stop being butt boys for the Saudis. See my tag line for how to do that.
I have been saying that myself through this entire “Arab Spring” garbage.
The choices were between corrupt bloodthirsty secular dictators and corrupt, bloodthirsty, Al Qaeda affilliated Islamic “Republics.” All things considered, we should have either supported the dictator, or supported the weaker side and prolonged the fighting until the entire country collapsed completely into civil disorder. When Moslems kill Moslems in large quantities, usually the whole world benefits.
Choices are clear.
Back in 1978/1979, regarding Iran, many Americans made the same noises about the Shah. Oooo, he was supposedly killing people in Iran - many faked pictures were to prove it too, at the time. What if he truly ordered killing of people? He Didn't, TRUE.
Had he done so, many (Khomeini supporters back then) would've not lived - including the ones who took American Embassy hostages.
Anyhow, People bought it - then came Khomeini, and then the same people shut the F up & simply watched, and keep on watching... Nobody asks how many people Khomeini et al has been killing since.
Now, Assad.. he is killing people, don't ya know? Sad, but true... yet, we harp on on the same that we brought on to the scene (a la Khomeini in Iran), muzzie brotherhood in Syria to be. And, no mistakes about it, it will be a moslem "brotherhood" in Syria, once Assad is gone.
Point is: the same emotional, ignorant people who blamed the Shah, harp on about Assad in Syria. The Shah, contrary to the popular, belief did not kill even a tiny fraction of what the Mullahs' regime has done in just over 30 yrs of its horror in Iran (and abroad). But, some Americans are still wondering...
When America selects, ehemm, elects a President who is more intelligent than Obama Hussein (a Moslem, is he?), then we can talk... "intelligently" about USA foreign Policy.
And, about "moslems killing moslems", we should worry about that more in your neck of the woods... apparently too many moslems in America already, AND they aint looking to kill each other.
Can’t answer that one, I’m afraid.
How is a mortar shell placed in the tube?
The barrel drops to the horizontal, the breech opens and a shell is loaded via a mechanism on the top of the carrier unit. The video posted in this thread shows the operation.
The truth is the mess in Syria is a war between the Saudis and Iran. The Saudis are supplying weapons and encouraging insurgents and trying to get us involved. I hadn’t heard it involved Al-Qaeda. Unfortunately in that part of the world the sponsors don’t give out T shirts.
AFAIK it is breech-loaded. A round is laser guided, you can hit someone in a head from 10 miles. There are optional low-yield nuclear rounds available.
Wow, it really does!
look for the UN to set up a safety zone in and around the city of damascus...
where assad will allow all the disloyal and unfaithful to gather, and then he will level the place as per the scriptures...
possibility... he’s just that nuts.
I wonder if you could tune the pitch? You could turn a battery of them into the Carillon Of Hell!
Fine by me. What do we have to lose besides another islamic radical hellhole?
Very good points. Syria is the last refuge for Christians in the Middle East.
That is one reason why it is under attack.
Moreover, the Syrian govt, like any govt, has the right to put down an armed rebellion. To say otherwise, is to create a most dangerous precedent.
I’m not sure it qualifies as an armed rebellion. It’s looking more like an armed attack by the Saudis and their minions.
It’s worth it to support the rebels, in order to deprive Iran of a valued ally and throw Hizbollah into disrepute. If Assad survives in a weakened state, good. If the Brotherhood takes over, they will at least not be so thick with Iran, because they don’t even view Shiites as Muslims. So also good. If the country collapses into anarchy and fragments into Kurdistan, Allawiya, Assyriania, Shiitia and Sunnia, also good. So long as it is no longer useful to Iran, I’ll be happy.
>>>”If Assad survives in a weakened state, good. If the Brotherhood takes over, they will at least not be so thick with Iran, because they dont even view Shiites as Muslims.”<<<
I am no fan of Assad.
But, I very much doubt MB will not be in bed with the Iranian Regime. Iranian Regime has its tentacles far & wide, even in places you & I, for example, might not much suspect or expect, including, am afraid Israel.
A point that I like to re-emphasize & reiterate, as I have done many times before in various FR posts, is that “We” expect a fight or conflict between Shi’ites & Sunnis if we vent it. True, that sectarian conflict has existed for centuries, BUT, in this case, so long as “Western” “Threat” or “Enemy” exists (or perceived to exist), they will both give that priority, join hands when necessary, and will not focus on fighting each other beyond *tit for tat* or occasional beheading - we need to be mindful of that stance by them.
On paper that will be what they both want to do, destroy the Great Satan and all, but while they won’t have an all-out sectarian war, they will not cooperate well with each other. Arabs generally do not cooperate with one another even under ideal situations. Some incarnation of the pre-Islamic duality between Qys and Yemen always set them at each other. Iranians have a totally different mind set, and a much longer attention span, and that to Arabs makes them suspect in and of itself. They will both talk cooperation, do a little cooperation, and then age-old mistrust blossoms again and they’ll be at each other’s throats in “tit for tat” and then they’ll remember the Great Satan again, and patch things over, but it never is really patched over.
The Alawites were much more compatible with Iran, because their religion is less important to them, so politics could come first. But to MB, while they will want very much to give the Great Satan priority, they will be chronically unable to efficiently cooperate with these “heretics,” because they’re obsessed with their version of Mad-Mo-ism above and beyond all practical considerations, such as political alliances and common enemies.
Assad and Ahmadenijad were like Tintin and Captain Haddock. MB and Ahamdenijad will be like Laurel and Hardy or the Three Stooges, as they continue to have Abbott and Costello-style misunderstandings.