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Congressmen, military chaplains denounce same-sex ceremony on La. base
The Daily Caller ^ | 06/07/2012 | Caroline May

Posted on 06/08/2012 3:06:47 AM PDT by markomalley

Two Republican congressmen and a military chaplains’ organization are crying foul after the U.S. Army confirmed that an Army chaplain officiated a same-sex wedding ceremony for two female soldiers last month in the base chapel at Fort Polk, La.

“The liberal social experiment with our military continues. A same-sex marriage-like ceremony should not have occurred at Fort Polk, especially since the people of Louisiana have made it abundantly clear that our state does not recognize same-sex marriages or civil unions,” Louisiana Republican Rep. John Fleming said on Wednesday.

“My frustration is compounded by the fact that a social agenda, which has nothing to do with military readiness or our national defense, is being imposed on our men and women in uniform.”

Fort Polk is in Fleming’s district. The congressman speculated that after the replacement of the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy regarding gays and lesbians serving in the military, incidents like this are “inevitable.”

Like Fleming, the Chaplain Alliance for Religious Liberty — which discovered the incident — noted that the ceremony highlighted a need for legislation making clear that military bases are not the place for same-sex marriage or marriage-like ceremonies.

“The Department of Defense is bowing to a political agenda to turn our nation’s military into a social experiment,” said Ron Crews, executive director for the Chaplain Alliance for Religious Liberty. “It is time for the American public to say, ‘Enough!’”

Missouri Republican Rep. Todd Akin, who has pushed to protect traditional marriage on military bases, also denounced the ceremony.

“It is very concerning that a same-sex ceremony would occur on a military base in a state where the definition of marriage has been clearly defined as between one man and one woman,” Akin said. “This action is clearly in contravention of state law, and also violates the Defense Department policies issued last fall. This appears to be a case where political agenda has trumped the rule of law, which is absolutely unacceptable.”

Akin encouraged the Senate to follow in the House’s footsteps and pass legislation preventing military facilities from being used for same-sex wedding ceremonies.

With the repeal of “don’t ask, don’t tell,” the Department of Defense announced that military chaplains would be allowed to perform same-sex marriages on military bases as long as they were not held in violation of local law.

The Associated Press reported Wednesday evening that a Fort Polk spokesman said the event was a commitment ceremony and the base chapel understood it as such.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: army; bhodod; chaplain; dontaskdonttell; fortpolk; homosexualagenda; la; military; samesexmarriage
Reason #567,298 why I'm glad I'm retired...
1 posted on 06/08/2012 3:07:01 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: xzins; wagglebee

chaplain ping...


2 posted on 06/08/2012 3:12:24 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good-Pope Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley

God Bless those chaplains who are DOING the RIGHT THING.


3 posted on 06/08/2012 3:20:55 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Biggirl

I Have a bunch of questions on this one. Where did the “couple” get the license, Georgia doesn’t and won’t recognize “gay” marriage, it is in the state Constitution. What did the marriage signify since the couple isn’t open to military benefits. I thought the military had to follow state law unless there was a more stringent military law, ie convoys, often convoys travel slower per policy and regulation than state high way laws but they can not exceed the posted speed limit!


4 posted on 06/08/2012 3:26:21 AM PDT by carcraft (Pray for our Country)
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To: markomalley

The problem here...is typically, your installation commander follows the laws of the state. For example....if legal drinking is 21...then the base observes that at the enlisted club and drinking establishments on base. If the state has certain driving rules, then the base typically observes those. So I can see why the state is acting this way and asking questions.

The curious thing is if Chaplains will start performing ceremonies like this....while on combat tours in Afghanistan. I’m pretty sure that the Afghan government would be also curious about this.


5 posted on 06/08/2012 3:28:13 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Biggirl
God Bless those chaplains who are DOING the RIGHT THING.

Right you are!

Not only the chaplains, but every member of that post should be doing the same...attempting to interfere with this legal sanction of immorality:

Where the government's policy is de facto tolerance and there is no explicit legal recognition of homosexual unions, it is necessary to distinguish carefully the various aspects of the problem. Moral conscience requires that, in every occasion, Christians give witness to the whole moral truth, which is contradicted both by approval of homosexual acts and unjust discrimination against homosexual persons. Therefore, discreet and prudent actions can be effective; these might involve: unmasking the way in which such tolerance might be exploited or used in the service of ideology; stating clearly the immoral nature of these unions; reminding the government of the need to contain the phenomenon within certain limits so as to safeguard public morality and, above all, to avoid exposing young people to erroneous ideas about sexuality and marriage that would deprive them of their necessary defences and contribute to the spread of the phenomenon. Those who would move from tolerance to the legitimization of specific rights for cohabiting homosexual persons need to be reminded that the approval or legalization of evil is something far different from the toleration of evil.

In those situations where homosexual unions have been legally recognized or have been given the legal status and rights belonging to marriage, clear and emphatic opposition is a duty. One must refrain from any kind of formal cooperation in the enactment or application of such gravely unjust laws and, as far as possible, from material cooperation on the level of their application. In this area, everyone can exercise the right to conscientious objection.

Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith


6 posted on 06/08/2012 3:44:08 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good-Pope Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley

You could see this one coming from a mile off.

In the article it states.With the repeal of “don’t ask, don’t tell,” the Department of Defense announced that military chaplains would be allowed to perform same-sex marriages on military bases as long as they were not held in violation of local law. ‘

This will be changed from would be allowed to-—will be ordered to perform same-sex marriages.


7 posted on 06/08/2012 3:55:06 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: markomalley; Jim Robinson; P-Marlowe; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; LiteKeeper; bethelgrad
According to Army regulations, a chaplain must marry a couple according to the laws of the state in which the ceremony takes place.

Another article I read on this suggested that it was a union ceremony and not a marriage. The facts need to be determined, and if it was a marriage, then there needs to be a determination of the type of marriage certificate used and the issuing authority. Then some heads need to roll, but that won't happen under Obama. (As an aside, the chaplain performing the ceremony, according to the other article was a United Church of Christ pastor....the same denomination as Obama and Jeremiah Wright, iirc.)

I suspect, given Romney's coming out in favor of gay couples last month that he won't do anything either. This would be that “gay couple” that Romney spoke of.

So, America, here is what you've got. Sodom and Gomorrah. Hope Obama makes you happy. You voted him in.

As for Romney, if he doesn't go on record denouncing this and promising to quickly reverse it, then good luck getting God's blessing just because you balanced your checkbook while you OK’d your kids getting molested by gays — if they manage survive the abortion chambers.

Bethgrad, if you are reading this can you give us an update from your perspective and the facts as you know them?

8 posted on 06/08/2012 4:19:55 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: markomalley

I’m not a Bible scholar, but I believe that Jesus takes a dim view of misusing holy places. What’s that story about the Temple and the money changers? Something about “My Father’s house”?


9 posted on 06/08/2012 4:42:15 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: carcraft
This wasn't Georgia, it was Louisiana, per the article. And they didn't have a license. Louisiana has a constitutional marriage amendment as well that prohibits homosexual "marriage" or "civil unions." The article said it was a "commitment ceremony."

It was more of a protest setup, as activist homosexuals are wont to do. Even though it was not official, don't think that that will stop them from demanding full benefits and recognition from the government. They will push, against all their fake assurances, until they get what they want - and more.

10 posted on 06/08/2012 4:57:45 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: markomalley
The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.

Psalms 12:8


11 posted on 06/08/2012 5:16:23 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: markomalley

Unless our military chaplains can get the new regulations imposed upon them overturned, their best bet may be to simply stop marrying any service members.

Yes, I realize that this is an extreme position to take but what other choice do they really have? Go against their beliefs, God’s law and their religious oaths or wait until saner heads prevail and the grand social experiment (perfect description) of gay marriage and openly serving gay military members is removed.


12 posted on 06/08/2012 5:43:35 AM PDT by Brytani (Liberals - destroying America since 1776)
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To: Travis McGee

Truly disgusting. And to think that each had a mother and father....


13 posted on 06/08/2012 5:59:58 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Brytani

The radicals will welcome chaplains quitting. They will all be replaced by radical “chaplains.”


14 posted on 06/08/2012 6:05:30 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: markomalley

Here we go...
Thank you, ADM Mullen and all the service chiefs who sold out their country and fellow servicemen for a cheap political move.
How proud you must be...


15 posted on 06/08/2012 6:48:22 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: markomalley

Good old Fort Polk. Ahhh, the fond memories I have of that place back in the early 1970’s. (puke)


16 posted on 06/08/2012 8:34:47 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: xzins

Thank you so much for sharing your insights, dear brother in Christ!


17 posted on 06/08/2012 8:46:17 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: markomalley
Missouri Republican Rep. Todd Akin, who has pushed to protect traditional marriage on military bases, also denounced the ceremony.

Anyone know if Todd voted for the repeal of DADT? Does anyone besides me wonder how the repeal of DADT ever got through a Republican controlled House?

18 posted on 06/08/2012 12:27:07 PM PDT by itsahoot (I will not vote for Romney period.)
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To: itsahoot
Anyone know if Todd voted for the repeal of DADT? Does anyone besides me wonder how the repeal of DADT ever got through a Republican controlled House?

First of all, he voted against it.

Second of all, the repeal was passed in the lame duck session of the 111th Congress (Pelosi's final term as speaker) on 15 Dec 2010.

19 posted on 06/08/2012 2:00:28 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good-Pope Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley

IIRC, there were only 57 Democrats and 2 independents voting as democrats at the end of that Congress. IOW, there’s no way the Republicans could have been prevented from blocking this if they had truly been a conservative party.


20 posted on 06/08/2012 6:03:42 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Travis McGee
The radicals will welcome chaplains quitting. They will all be replaced by radical “chaplains.”

I wonder how the armed forces will do without Catholics? Maybe they'll go off base for Mass.

21 posted on 06/09/2012 7:56:11 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Ineptocracy; the Obama way.)
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