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Captured US soldier's e-mails suggest he deserted in Afghanistan "I am ashamed to even be American"
NY Post ^ | June 8, 2012

Posted on 06/08/2012 7:47:54 AM PDT by dead

HAILEY, Idaho -- E-mails from a US soldier, sent before he was captured by the Taliban in 2009, suggest he was disillusioned with the military and considering deserting.

Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, 26, told his parents in e-mails obtained by Rolling Stone magazine that he was disgusted with the US Army and ashamed to be American.

In one, which was not verified, he wrote, "I am sorry for everything here. These people need help, yet what they get is the most conceited country in the world telling them that they are nothing and that they are stupid, that they have no idea how to live... I have seen their ideas and I am ashamed to even be American."

Bergdahl, then a private first class, went missing on June 30, 2009, sparking a manhunt that saw other military missions canceled or diverted.

According to the magazine, his e-mails to his family back home in Idaho began to take on a more somber tone when one of his close friends was killed in Afghanistan.

Initially military officials thought he was captured by the Taliban after walking away from his outpost near the Pakistani border....

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; bergdahl; bobbergdahl; bowebergdahl; gitmo; taliban

1 posted on 06/08/2012 7:48:02 AM PDT by dead
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To: dead
the most conceited country in the world

The problem for America is that this is a hotly contested title.

The French spring to mind.

2 posted on 06/08/2012 7:51:23 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: dead

By walking away he did desert.

The military will not forget him and will continue to look for him.

My problem is some may get hurt or killed in the search that was caused by his actions.

The second is that he will be treated as a “HERO” when he gets back and movie deals will be beating down his door.

A bigger reward than those who did their jobs to the end.


3 posted on 06/08/2012 7:52:14 AM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: dead
Yeah? Well strap a bomb on yourself and go out in the mountains and blow your stinking sorry self up. Eventually, you will come back here and say, oh they brainwashed me. Sorry you good for nothing slug, live in the stinking mountains with your beloved muslins.
4 posted on 06/08/2012 7:52:24 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (Paul said the world would look like in the last days: See Romans 1: 13-32 for the examples.)
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To: dead

Someone shoulda told this poor kid that there are consequences for thinking like a mush-headed campus utopian in the real world.


5 posted on 06/08/2012 7:53:33 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: PeteB570

PFC Robert Garwood redux?


6 posted on 06/08/2012 7:53:53 AM PDT by donozark (The 7th Wisconsin had more men killed in battle than any other Union Regiment.)
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To: dead

I wonder what the court marshall for him being a traitor will be like?


7 posted on 06/08/2012 7:57:11 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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To: PATRIOT1876
the court marshall

Uhhhh... that would be "court martial".

8 posted on 06/08/2012 8:00:46 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: dead

All who are ashamed of this guy being an American... say “AYE”!


9 posted on 06/08/2012 8:01:53 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: dead

maybe the story isn’t true


10 posted on 06/08/2012 8:02:48 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (i a m t h e m a r g i n o f e r r e r)
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To: PATRIOT1876

No Court Marshall for him - it would be bad press for the DoD.

He’ll get to pin on SGT, maybe SSG if they keep him much longer, the POW Medal, maybe a Bronze Star and then shuffle him out the door with 100% VA benefits.

Then the Rock Star tour with all the MSM talking heads - followed by the book and movie deals.


11 posted on 06/08/2012 8:04:15 AM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: dead

What was he thinking when he enlisted?

When as a soldier, he cashes his checks, enjoyes his benefits and anticipates additional and very generous benefits available to former military personnel..I wonder if he feels the same way!?


12 posted on 06/08/2012 8:04:21 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: dead
Oh snivel snivel you little pussy guess you one of the many that joined just for the benefits and free schooling now when the country needs you just slither away maybe some
nice Taliban will take you in and cuddle you and show you the real way to die. I understand you might even get 72 virgins in this deal.
13 posted on 06/08/2012 8:05:33 AM PDT by bikerman (Obama lied,economy died.)
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To: dead

If true, Sergeant, ....keep walking.


14 posted on 06/08/2012 8:05:48 AM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. Be Andrew Breitbart.)
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To: PeteB570
Then the Rock Star tour with all the MSM talking heads - followed by the book and movie deals.

Only one problem with that theory, a "D" is in the White House. If it were still Bush, I would agree.

15 posted on 06/08/2012 8:06:02 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dead
If this is true - I say "if" because 'Rolling Stone' is not a good source for facts - then why the h3ll did he join the US Military?

I mean, c'mon, it's not like a secret society that only a select few know what they do. "oh!, I didn't know that guns and imposing our will on others would be involved".

I liken it to the lefty numb-nvts I see in the corporate world that bash big business, the evils of corporations and the American capitalistic way while they make a healthy salary working for a globe spanning American corporation.

16 posted on 06/08/2012 8:06:16 AM PDT by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: PeteB570

I put little credence in what one allegedly says or writes while being held prisoner by a bunch of barbarians. Let’s learn all the facts before passing judgment.


17 posted on 06/08/2012 8:10:38 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

Agree, but he supposedly wrote these before he walked away.


18 posted on 06/08/2012 8:15:24 AM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. Be Andrew Breitbart.)
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To: kabar

My post mentioned nothing about what he’s done since he was picked up.

He was not left behind and captured in a firefight.

He walked away from his FOB and was picked up.

I’m sure right now he would rather be eating cheeseburgers and fries with his homeboys but his situation was caused by his actions.

As to what he’s been doing in the past three years - there are some propaganda clips of him helping the TB with some explosive training. For that he should not be charged with - as you noted. He also did escape for a few days but was recaptured.


19 posted on 06/08/2012 8:20:31 AM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: dead
I think there are a lot of people who join the US military because they couldn't find a job. I was reading an article last night in USAA magazine and it reported that 85% of college graduates are returning back home to live with Mom and Dad. Bottom line is there is no jobs in this country and people are desperate for anything . If you don't believe in the mission of the US Military and not of strong constitution then then military is not for you.

Currently, I don't understand our mission in Iraq and Afghanistan . We would be safer in this country if we didn't import Muslims or other people that hate this country and quit trying to nation build other countries with borrowed money.

20 posted on 06/08/2012 8:24:23 AM PDT by pterional
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To: exit82

I would have to read the emails, if they really exist. This could also be a ploy by the family and the military to keep him alive. He has been held for three years. Let the Taliban think that he identifies with their cause. They are using him as a bargaining chip to release some of their own people.


21 posted on 06/08/2012 8:25:41 AM PDT by kabar
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To: SMARTY

He did it for the education benefits, don’cha know. Never thought he’d have to go to war, his recruiter lied to him, his drill sergeant was mean to him, they made him cover up his self-expression tattoos, made him run (gasp) and carry heavy stuff (shocking).

KMA, Bowe.


22 posted on 06/08/2012 8:25:51 AM PDT by jagusafr ("Write in Palin and prepare for war...")
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To: kabar

Well, let’s hope so. Although the Taliban wants Gitmo guys in exchange, and that is not going to happen.

Besides, the Taliban doesn’t read Rolling Stone.


23 posted on 06/08/2012 8:33:11 AM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. Be Andrew Breitbart.)
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To: kabar
As you noted the State Dept. & TB had been in SECRET negotiations for around a year - sticking point was the release of TB members.

When negotiations broke down the parents came forward with the story on the negotiations.

It's been a month or so since then and now the folks are throwing out the e-mails.

I'm sure the folks would like their son back - and he would have been home almost three years ago if he would have just done his job.

24 posted on 06/08/2012 8:34:51 AM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: PeteB570
I really don't know the facts of exactly how and why he was captured. Maybe he had an Afghan girlfriend and was caught while meeting with her. Do we really know that he was deserting? Maybe he just had some sort of mental breakdown caused by the loss of friends.

My point is that we should not draw conclusions until we get the facts. After the Treyvon Martin shooting, many posters claimed that Zimmerman was guilty of gunning down an unarmed teenager. They bought into the MSM racist stampede.

I will give the benefit of the doubt to someone who volunteered to serve putting his life on the line in defense of this country in a combat zone and being held as a prisoner for three years.

25 posted on 06/08/2012 8:35:11 AM PDT by kabar
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To: PeteB570

Some of the things I would miss if I were held by the goat fornicators in the desert:

Freedom
Love
Air conditioning
Central heat (in the winter)
Ice cream
Fresh cut french fries
Fried chicken
Deviled Eggs
Mayonnaise
Peanut Butter and peach jelly sandwiches on homemade bread
Forks and spoons and napkins
A soft bed with crisp cotton sheets
A straight, clean man who uses deodorant and shaving cream
Vaginal sex
Central vacumning
Air conditioning
A car with air conditioning
Showering with hot and cold water
Soap
Toilet paper
Restaurants
Music
My dogs
My girlfriends
Air conditioning

I will bet he is now missing America and all things American.

Let him stay there.


26 posted on 06/08/2012 8:45:29 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: dead

There are always a few.

We had a handful of nutballs who defected to Communist China during the Korean War too.


27 posted on 06/08/2012 8:49:46 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: pterional

I agree completely with your post. We have no business being over there.


28 posted on 06/08/2012 8:52:51 AM PDT by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

I started reading you post and was going “Wonder if she lists Toilet Paper?” - And there it was.

But having traveled in the general area a good bit I learned when heading out make sure you have a couple of those MRE TP wraps in your pocket.


29 posted on 06/08/2012 9:08:09 AM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: dead

I suspect the reason that this has come to light now is because either he has been dispatched along with some Taliban in a drone strike, or they know where he is and do not intend that there will be a body.

So the Taliban, or the Paks, will announce that he was killed by a US air strike, and died a martyr to Islam, or whatever. Case closed.


30 posted on 06/08/2012 9:24:16 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: kabar

I’m with you on this one. The left has an agenda for Afghanistan. It is still a Muslim country and is not going to accept that agenda. Could that be what he is talking about? Are we trying to force western values, and even worse, left wing western values on the Afghans? Could that be what the cause of his “shame?” I think the facts are too slim to judge.


31 posted on 06/08/2012 9:27:28 AM PDT by trubolotta
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

Don’t forget BACON!!!


32 posted on 06/08/2012 9:47:44 AM PDT by catman67
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To: dead
Bergdahl, then a private first class, went missing on June 30, 2009, sparking a manhunt that saw other military missions canceled or diverted.

Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, 26, told his parents in e-mails obtained by Rolling Stone magazine that he was disgusted with the US Army and ashamed to be American.

On June 30, 2009, when he went missing, Berghahl was a Private? But now, at age 26, he's a Sgt? How does that happen?

33 posted on 06/08/2012 9:54:36 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: pterional; ColdSteelTalon
Currently, I don't understand our mission in Iraq and Afghanistan . We would be safer in this country if we didn't import Muslims or other people that hate this country and quit trying to nation build other countries with borrowed money.

My son returned from Afghanistan the end of January. He stated to me many times during his deployment that he and his fellow soldiers didn't know what their mission was - that it didn't seem to them their was a true mission. I disagree with the notion that the U.S. has NO business being in Afghanistan. However, I'm of the opinion that, if our soldiers are deployed to Afghanistan (or anywhere else) without a clear mission, then the U.S. has NO business having boots on the ground being served up as human targets. War should only be fought as a war, with WWII style goals - complete and utter destruction of the enemy at ALL costs and damn the collateral damage.

34 posted on 06/08/2012 10:02:37 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: ColdSteelTalon

Bring the troops home now. We should end most of our foreign troop deployments and place some of them on our southern border.


35 posted on 06/08/2012 10:09:27 AM PDT by Taylor42
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To: PeteB570

What is this fool going to do in the desert? Wait till they chop his head off.


36 posted on 06/08/2012 10:13:04 AM PDT by angcat (GO YANKS!)
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To: SoldierDad

For people like him in similar situations the military will promote them with their peer group.

In his case he has had to time to make E4/SPC and E5/SGT. They keep him much longer and he’ll make SSG.

His pay continues and when/if he’s released he’ll get all his back pay.


37 posted on 06/08/2012 10:36:32 AM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

AYE!


38 posted on 06/08/2012 10:58:43 AM PDT by 2CAVTrooper ( For those who have had to fight for it, freedom has a flavor the protected shall never know.)
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To: SMARTY

Like all those morons who joined the National Guard for the cash then bitched when they were called up for the Iraq war. They never expected to fight in a war when they signed up for the military!!!! Hey,thats what the military does.
When you take the kings shilling,you do the kings bidding.
This douche should be hanged.....


39 posted on 06/09/2012 12:44:28 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: dead

Ironically, I’m ashamed of him, too.


40 posted on 06/09/2012 12:51:47 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: dead

This re-posting might be of some interest now.


41 posted on 05/31/2014 9:51:21 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Mike Darancette
Yes, it's interesting. I'm guessing that he had some stupid ideas and it wound up costing him five years of his life. Hopefully, he appreciates the US now.

Although, just to be sure, the FBI and CIA should pull some people of their Tea Party monitoring and keep an eye on him for a while.

42 posted on 06/01/2014 8:41:56 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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