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Bangor teacher gets prison for sex with student
Allentown (PA) Morning Call ^ | June 8, 2012 | Riley Yates

Posted on 06/08/2012 4:59:45 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement

A former Bangor Area High School teacher who had sex with a 17-year-old student was sent to prison for five months Friday by a Northampton County judge who said he expected her to be unhappy with his sentence.

But then Rachel L. Farrell, 26, surprised Judge Emil Giordano, who had just heard her defense attorney arguing for probation.

(Excerpt) Read more at mcall.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: moralabsolutes; predator; sex; students; teachers
The Ramada Inn in Tannersville probably never got so much attention.
1 posted on 06/08/2012 4:59:58 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement
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To: ConservativeStatement

Hard to tell by the profile picture at the site, but I think I’d giver probation.


2 posted on 06/08/2012 5:08:43 PM PDT by Recon Dad (Gas & Petroleum Junkie)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Bangor? I hardly knew her.


3 posted on 06/08/2012 5:09:09 PM PDT by icwhatudo (This is not a choice between Romney&Reagan-Its between Romney & most radical leftist Pres in history)
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To: icwhatudo

Bangor? I hardly knew her.

LOL


4 posted on 06/08/2012 5:10:20 PM PDT by molson209
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To: ConservativeStatement

5 posted on 06/08/2012 5:11:42 PM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: icwhatudo

Lol, flames inbound no doubt...


6 posted on 06/08/2012 5:17:25 PM PDT by Jonx6
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To: ConservativeStatement


7 posted on 06/08/2012 5:20:22 PM PDT by Iron Munro (John Adams: 'Two ways to enslave a country. One is by the sword, the other is by debt')
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To: Iron Munro

NOT GUILTY!


8 posted on 06/08/2012 5:21:54 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: DIRTYSECRET

not one tiny bit guilty


9 posted on 06/08/2012 5:23:18 PM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: ConservativeStatement

Just as long as Cesar Millan never gets busted for sex with his students.


10 posted on 06/08/2012 5:25:06 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

I think she’s guilty, but should be made to serve out her sentence in my spare room.


11 posted on 06/08/2012 5:25:56 PM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: Iron Munro

12 posted on 06/08/2012 5:34:45 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: ConservativeStatement
I don't agree with prison for this woman and her attractiveness (or lack thereof) has nothing to do with it.

It is a natural thing for women and men to be sexually attracted to each other. The man's age (17) might make him a "minor" in our mother hen society but for the purposes of nature, anybody who reaches puberty is biologically a man or a woman and no amount of legislation will change that fact.

Now I'm not saying a sexual relationship between a teacher and student should be allowed. Definitely the teacher should have been fired and the student expelled. But prison? That is ludicrous. Already we have one out of every 100 citizens imprisoned. We don't need to be locking up schoolteachers for having sexual relations with students (unless of course, rape or assault was involved).

13 posted on 06/08/2012 5:35:26 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: ConservativeStatement
In my opinion, not that it matters, these teachers (sluts) need more than 5 months, which will probably be reduced to a few weekends of home detention, more like 12 months with no time off for "good behavior," plus having to register as "sex offenders" so that everywhere this tramp moves, her neighbors will get notified that a predator is nearby.

Whatever one's opinion of good looking female teachers bedding her teenage students (such as the many jokes here) it does happen to be the goal of a parent looking to educators with a certain amount of trust.

Today, that is no where evident less than in schools across America.

Good humored jokes aside, this type of predatory behavior isn't humorous when it is a 55 to 60 year old male teacher with his 15 year old female student nor a 47 year old male or female teacher with a young student teen of the same sex.

This kind of thing is no longer a rarity, it's commonplace.

Lastly, I expect the teachers to find other places to go on the hunt for sexual stimulation than their own classrooms. If this were my daughter behaving this way with her male students, I certainly would be ashamed and I also would inquire as to why she was unable to find suitable males of her own age with whom to "explore" her sexuality.

14 posted on 06/08/2012 5:43:49 PM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: ConservativeStatement

This is the VERY WORST type of excerpting. AOL does it all the time. If AOL is you model you are doing wonderfully. But I don’t go into their content very often. I abhore being toyed with. I don’t ask to know everything about a story; I just ask to have a decent idea of what I’m getting into. You suck at that as does AOL.


15 posted on 06/08/2012 6:03:29 PM PDT by jimfree
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To: jimfree

Don’t hold back; tell us how you really feel...


16 posted on 06/08/2012 6:19:01 PM PDT by doc11355
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To: shibumi
I think she’s guilty, but should be made to serve out her sentence in my spare room.

Why? Do you want to fulfill your sex slave fantasy?

17 posted on 06/08/2012 6:20:40 PM PDT by Isabel C.
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To: Isabel C.
"Why? Do you want to fulfill your sex slave fantasy?"

Got that one covered.

But I've been a very bad student.

Very, very

Bad.

18 posted on 06/08/2012 6:25:36 PM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: SamAdams76

“We don’t need to be locking up schoolteachers for having sexual relations with students (unless of course, rape or assault was involved).”

Cops, Special Victims Investigators, common detectives, judges, prosecutors, defense lawyers, jail personnel, ParolePersons, ad nauseam - ALL disagree with your mean spirited post.

Why do you want to pull their snouts out of the government trough?

Just because G*d said a male was responsible for his own sins at age 13 means nothing in a “Post Modern, Post Structuralist collective such as present day America.

;-)


19 posted on 06/08/2012 6:29:39 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: jimfree

Calling people names over the internet? Like, OMG! Like amazin’. Like literally.


20 posted on 06/08/2012 6:30:29 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement (Obama "acted stupidly.")
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To: SamAdams76

It is my opinion that you are exactly right.


21 posted on 06/08/2012 6:35:26 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: shibumi

keyboard spew alert


22 posted on 06/08/2012 6:37:28 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: Isabel C.

He probably needs a math tutor.


23 posted on 06/08/2012 6:37:50 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I just hate our government. All of them. Republican and Democrat.)
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To: SamAdams76

I absolutely agree with prison for this woman, and I am okay with anything that happens to perverts who defend her.


24 posted on 06/08/2012 6:39:13 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Isabel C.

“I think she’s guilty, but should be made to serve out her sentence in my spare room.

Why? Do you want to fulfill your sex slave fantasy?”

Perhaps he thinks he is the victim of the rankest type of age discrimination. After all, such teachers were not available when he was in school. Certainly, you would not wish our fellow FReeper to suffer age discrimination, would you?

;-)


25 posted on 06/08/2012 6:39:43 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: GladesGuru

Addendum to post #25.

Have you considered the possibility the Freeper is making a good faith attempt to reduce the incarceration costs to the state? After all, I don’t think he demanded any rent, did he?


26 posted on 06/08/2012 6:41:34 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: SamAdams76
I do agree with you as well. We also need to teach our kids the responsibilities as well as potential complication associated with sex and to instill our morals into our children as best as we can. When they become 16, 17 and so on, hopefully we taught them enough to judge right and wrong for themselves and make the correct decisions.

I think the problem is that we are biologically capable of being parents as young as 13, 14, 16 and so on, yet we live in a world where we extended "childhood" to 18, 21 and in some cases 25 and beyond. There is no ignoring biology I'm afraid so we do have to do a dang good job in teaching our young adults into making the right decisions and to be responsible for themselves.

We have too many wrong people in jail, jail should only be for violent offenders.
27 posted on 06/08/2012 6:45:33 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: ConservativeStatement
From the judge in the article:

But while Giordano said he does believe she won't be in court again, he added that he needed to send a message to the community. "We're living in a society where schools, instead of being the safe places they're supposed to be, are places where teachers are the predators and students are the prey," Giordano said.

The schools have far surpassed the Catholic Church as the haven for predators, yet we hear only crickets.

28 posted on 06/08/2012 6:49:16 PM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. Be Andrew Breitbart.)
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To: ConservativeStatement
Bangor teacher gets prison for sex with student

So, she gets a whole prison to have sex with a student?

Sounds like a huge reward instead of a punishment.
29 posted on 06/08/2012 7:03:02 PM PDT by adorno
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To: ConservativeStatement

I’ve always wondered why jail was the appropriate punishment.
Why shouldn’t it be revoking their teaching certificate or having to pound erasers or forcing them to five years of summer school or being forced to monitor the girls restrooms, etc.


30 posted on 06/08/2012 7:09:19 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Our economy won't heal until one particular black man is unemployed.)
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To: SamAdams76

I agree. She’s not a predator. She seems to have displayed a shocking lack of self-control for a twenty six year old woman with a college degree, but not a predator.


31 posted on 06/08/2012 7:10:20 PM PDT by Hawk1976 (It is better to die in on your feet than it is to live as on your knees.)
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To: ConservativeStatement
I was taken advantage of by a female sexual predator in her early 30's when I was 16 - several times.

I will remain eternally grateful.

32 posted on 06/08/2012 7:23:50 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: SamAdams76

It is not alright for teachers to sexually prey upon students. You are an amoral ignoramous.


33 posted on 06/08/2012 7:39:20 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Nowhere Man

Rape is a violent crime last I checked.


34 posted on 06/08/2012 7:41:32 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Hawk1976
True, she is not a predator but what she did was wrong. She should have been fired from her job and the reason made public so that no other school system would ever hire here again.

Putting her in prison - even for five months - is totally unnecessary. Most people have no idea how incredibly expensive it is to maintain somebody in prison. Only people who are a danger to society should ever be put in prison.

35 posted on 06/08/2012 7:47:16 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: Nowhere Man

“We have too many wrong people in jail, jail should only be for violent offenders. “

I wouldn’t go that far. Thieves, vandals, and frauds also belong in jail even when they are not “violent offenders”. There are also actions that are classed as “violent” which should not be illegal, like dueling.

I would say that where the supposed “victim” has no complaint to make, that law shouldn’t even exist. This student never complained about the extra lessons he received. Johns don’t complain about prostitution. Drug users are their own victims.


36 posted on 06/08/2012 7:52:40 PM PDT by Kellis91789 (The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools.)
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To: SamAdams76
"Only people who are a danger to society should ever be put in prison." ... "she is not a predator" ... "Putting her in prison - even for five months - is totally unnecessary." ... "what she did was wrong"

I wish you would make up my mind. When does society send worng doers to prison? When they do wrong but it isn't a danger to society? If she should be prevented from teaching isn't that showing that she is a danger?

Frankly, I think she needs a long process of psychological help, and should be kept away from kids, especially teenage male kids, and she needs supervision for an extended period while she gets deep psychological help. But prison? Nope, not even. She is a sick person, a woman with a psyche that has not grown up.

37 posted on 06/08/2012 7:56:40 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: SamAdams76

So sorry Sam, when you does the crime you does the time....otherwise don’t do the crime!


38 posted on 06/08/2012 8:01:30 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Somewhere out there is a 19 year old guy who doesn’t look a day over 13 and could make a killing whoring himself out to female teachers.


39 posted on 06/08/2012 8:06:09 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

So is this a new thing or did young make students in the 40s and 50s and 60s just know a good thing when they had it and kept their mouths closed. I can’t remember hearing anything but male teachers having sex with young female students through about 5 years ago. Now suddenly, it is all female teachers and young boys.

What gives? Did they change the birth control formula to alter women’s brains or something?


40 posted on 06/08/2012 8:08:47 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: shibumi

Nah, I’d say she’s GUILTY.


41 posted on 06/08/2012 8:25:13 PM PDT by History Repeats
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To: ConservativeStatement

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VR4LJjCBWE0&feature=autoplay&list=AL94UKMTqg-9CB-lr-bPA_nrB-AW5RlrYV&playnext=33


42 posted on 06/08/2012 9:00:46 PM PDT by Archer24 (Get a life - I've had two and am lookingfor more.)
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To: SaraJohnson; SamAdams76

I agree with Sam that prison time is appropriate for rapists. I do not see a need for prison time in the case mentioned in this article although I do agree with disciplinary action taken by the school district.


43 posted on 06/09/2012 4:40:22 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: Nowhere Man

Well, screwing minors is illegal and is handled by the criminal justice system as it should be.

When you make noises supporting women screwing their male students, think about what that means. It means you can not discriminate against boys, subjecting them to predatory adult sex, you have to have girls treated equally under the law. Further, you can’t discriminate against homo adults, either. If heterosexuals can pork the kiddos, so can homosexuals.

It really helps to think past one’s crotch when advocating it to be legal for teachers to use the student body as their sex stables, with a slap on the butt from the pervert management when they get caught.


44 posted on 06/09/2012 5:28:14 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson
Well, screwing minors is illegal and is handled by the criminal justice system as it should be.

Well, here in Penna, the age of consent is 16 so unless there was a threat of violence here, i.e., rape, then the act was consensual. There should have been no case legally.

When you make noises supporting women screwing their male students, think about what that means. It means you can not discriminate against boys, subjecting them to predatory adult sex, you have to have girls treated equally under the law. Further, you can’t discriminate against homo adults, either. If heterosexuals can pork the kiddos, so can homosexuals.

Well, again, if it is at or above the age of consent, then legally, there are no discrimination here. Now if there is coercion to the point of duress, harrassment and/or rape, then it is a prosecutable offense.

It really helps to think past one’s crotch when advocating it to be legal for teachers to use the student body as their sex stables, with a slap on the butt from the pervert management when they get caught.

I tend to lean libertarian although personally, I have a high moral standard, I just think the role of government should be limited in dictating morality. We are schizoid in this country on sexual matters. In some ways, we are way too open, other ways, we are too uptight. Both the libertines and uptighters are too extreme. Sex should be treated naturally and each of us should instill our morals and standards into our children and so on after that and instill our values and reinforce that.

If you're talking about underage kids that are like below the age of puberty and/or age of consent as the case may be, then yes, the law should be applied. I think the age of consent at 16 is a good compromise for all, by that age, we need to be sure we on our own instill values, morals and responsibility into our teenagers and young adults and cross our fingers and hope they make the right decisions. We need to understand the sexual drive as natural and instill self control as well, but there is a time where young birds must fly, so many European countries have age of consent laws as well as us here in the States.

I don't advocate what happened here nor support it, I just think the law is being applied wrongly and their is really no offense here as I stated above. I know myself, I've seen hot teachers too, I remember I was 14 or 15 at the time and my English teacher was hot. She had three Corvettes and looked hot. Sure maybe fantasies have crossed my mind, I don't deny that, raging hormones and all, but I also have values instilled in me where I had self control to where if given the opportunity to act on those fantasies, I would not have.
45 posted on 06/09/2012 6:33:04 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: Nowhere Man

First, the article is about Maine where it is illegal for adults to pork seventeen year olds. Second, most states have laws against employers and teachers imposing sex on their underlings because they have power over those underlings to extract sex from them. Adults with power over children have a special and twisted advantage. Pedophiles have manipulating children into sexual “consent” down to a science, actually.

I know from your response to this that you “lean libertarian” as you beleive the world revolves around what each person finds personally acceptable to do to others. That is why I am not a libertarian. The immaturity and stupid of libertarianism is like dealing with wisdom and ethics of children who play in an imaginary world of the lord of the flies.


46 posted on 06/10/2012 1:14:02 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson
Actually, the age of consent is 16 in Maine. I just think we need to teach responsibility and expect people to learn it at a younger age. Again in this case, both parties are above the age of consent, which the government of Maine says so. We need to quit being hypocritical on sex laws. BTW, the definition of a pedophile is basically a person who preys on people who are under the age of puberty. If that was the case here, I'd be with you on throwing the book and the kitchen sink at the teacher since at those ages, they are certainly children, they do not have the capacity mentally or physically for such things. Again, I'd be for throwing the book at the teacher if she chased the kid down and he said "no." "No means no." However, I do not see it in this case.

We need to be truthful and treat sex as natural and be honest with our kids as well as arm them against the bad people out there and each of us needs to teach our values. I just think government power is getting carried away here and it enforces our hypocrisy on this subject.

It's like a co-worker said to me once. He made a good point that almost all of us can agree on 80% of things being right and wrong but the other 20% we debate on. He said that we live in a plural society where the 20% where there are times we might have to compromise between the sides to preserve freedom, "that's why I joined and fought with the Marines." He added, "for example, some people think homosexuality is wrong, others think it's OK and even others are middle of the road." He said, that's freedom of choice. Myself, on that one, I'm more middle of the road, I don' like it, but I do realize that we do have the freedom to go one way or another but we must also be responsible and accountable for our actions. I don't like the push for the gay agenda as it is going now nor the forcing of gay marriage either, but I do support the idea that, like anyone else, have the right to chase the American dream as far as their talents, training and merit can take them.

I just think that beyond basic Mosiac Laws, government is generally a poor enforcer of morality and when it does so beyond a certain point, it can become too authoritarian.

I'm pretty much "my own dog" on some of these issues, I generally get flak from both left and right at times. Many times I don't comment because of that. I think we will agree to disagree.
47 posted on 06/10/2012 1:48:04 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: Nowhere Man

Obviously the bit@@ is going to jail because what she did was illegal! It was criminal in maine for her to sexually prey upon her students and her skanky, manipulative a$$ is going to jail. So get off that crap that what she did was legal or her choice, if you want to talk with me. It was not her personal choice to screw a student.

Your dance about homosexuality is cute but not in touch with reality. Homos are looking for special rights to force their perversion on everyone. They already are doin it in the schools. The religion you worship - amorality - is aggressive in it’s preaching and intolerant of anyone who does not agree or who talking about the DISEASES of it.
Judges are forcing homo kiddie sex clubs into other people’s public schools. The elite are persecuting people who speak out against the lifestyle and disease of homos. It is a fact. There is no void. That is a libertarian myth. We will encourage and impose good or evil from an elitist and government standpoint.

Don’t give me your libertartian pretend world to claim it is different. A moral and ethic code will domininate government and busness in law and regulation. I will not surrender the law and culture to the amoral prick elitists of the universe and pretend my child will not grow up and be shaped by their disgusting ignorance and love of death.


48 posted on 06/10/2012 2:14:19 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: ConservativeStatement
Here's another one ... personally I'd go with Not Guilty! ;-)

Feel free to post this as a separate article - gotta fix something ... before dark.

L.I. Teacher Sentenced After Admitting Having Sex With 16-Year-Old Student

Guilty?


49 posted on 06/18/2012 2:29:37 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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