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Ralph Nader: Bill Clinton ‘laying the groundwork’ for Hillary by ‘undermining Obama’
The Daily Caller ^ | 06/09/2012 | Nicholas Ballasy

Posted on 06/08/2012 10:24:30 PM PDT by Publius804

Former Green Party presidential candidate Ralph Nader told The Daily Caller that former President Bill Clinton is “undermining [President Barack] Obama” to lay the “groundwork” for Hillary Clinton’s presidential run in 2016.

Clinton recently told CNN that Republican candidate Mitt Romney’s business record at Bain Capital is “sterling.” TheDC asked Nader if he agreed with Clinton’s statement.

“He’s laying down the groundwork for Hillary Clinton running for president in 2016. Everything she is doing and everything he is doing argues that they want to run Hillary Clinton for president in 2016, so while he might appear with Obama in fundraisers in New York and elsewhere, he’s basically undermining Obama,” Nader told TheDC on Capitol Hill after advocating for raising the minimum wage to $10 per hour.

Nader added that Clinton does not “necessarily” want Obama to lose re-election but doesn’t want the Clintons to be viewed as anti-business.

“He wants to appear with Hillary as very friendly to business. He operates out of New York City. He doesn’t want to alienate Wall Street,” Nader said.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; clinton; obama; romney

1 posted on 06/08/2012 10:24:37 PM PDT by Publius804
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To: Publius804

The only problem with that theory is that Hillary probably dislikes Bill as much as she dislikes Obama.


2 posted on 06/08/2012 10:32:19 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Publius804

What the Xuck has Hillary! ever accomplished that qualifies her to be POTUS?
She’s a crook, covered up for her husband...run around the world on our money...seriously, what are her real accomplishments?

Oh wait..... accomplishments aren’t an issue for rats.....


3 posted on 06/08/2012 10:34:24 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 wasn't an election - it was a coup d'etat.)
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To: Publius804
For 2016? Obama if he was to win another term will be termed out so I do not understand Naders logic Obama will not be running in 2016 and she would not be running against Obama.
4 posted on 06/08/2012 10:43:44 PM PDT by funfan
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To: funfan

Nader wants 0bama to lose to Romney in 2012 and Hitlery would then run against Romney in 2016.


5 posted on 06/08/2012 10:48:27 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: funfan

I meant Nader thinks Clinton is undermining Obama so Hitlery can run against Romney in 2016.


6 posted on 06/08/2012 10:50:25 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: unkus

I doubt it. She would be 70 yrs old in 2016.


7 posted on 06/08/2012 10:56:48 PM PDT by cornfedcowboy (Trust in God, but empty the clip.)
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To: Publius804

There is no difference between Hillary, Obama and Bill.


8 posted on 06/08/2012 10:58:24 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Publius804

9 posted on 06/08/2012 11:02:44 PM PDT by doug from upland (Just in case, it has been reserved: www.TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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To: freekitty

Bill and Hillary were actually born in the U.S.


10 posted on 06/08/2012 11:03:55 PM PDT by doug from upland (Just in case, it has been reserved: www.TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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To: cornfedcowboy

I doubt it, too. I think a lot of Dems are turning against 0bama because he’s such a disaster for the Rat Party and the country. They’re moving into Survival Mode.


11 posted on 06/08/2012 11:10:12 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: Publius804

Sean Hannity was saying the other day that he’s spoken to several people who know and speak to Clinton regularly.

He said they strongly believe the reason Clinton is so negative is that he truly thinks Obama is way too radical and is damaging the country. Hannity said they didn’t think Hillary was at the center of it (The Clintons may actually be getting older and tired, and if you look at Clinton, he really has aged).

OTOH, Clinton IS a master deceiver, if he wants to be.


12 posted on 06/08/2012 11:13:16 PM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: PGR88

Do Bill and Hillary even live together anymore?

We never see them together. I know Hillary travels a lot as Sec. of State, but, it seems that whenever we see either on the news, that the other one is never there.


13 posted on 06/08/2012 11:13:45 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Publius804

If he wants Hilary to win, then he needs to come out in favor of her opponent. Nobody that he’s endorsed seems to win very often.


14 posted on 06/08/2012 11:27:08 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica ("We have prepared for the unbeliever, whips and chains and blazing fires!" Koran Sura 76:4)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Do Bill and Hillary even live together anymore?

We never see them together.
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No; they don’t live together. So, you know Bill is getting it somewhere.


15 posted on 06/08/2012 11:39:35 PM PDT by pistolpackinpapa
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To: doug from upland

True.


16 posted on 06/09/2012 12:10:10 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Publius804
Wow! What this really shows is that the Democrats have no bench, none at all.

I can think of at least a dozen strong conservatives in the Senate, House, Governors mansions, or Lieutenant Governor positions throughout the country who can easily make reputable runs for the White House tin the next two election cycles Right off the top of my head. Yet, the Democrats are hanging their hope on a one term Senator and failed Secretary of State who's a washed up old hag. That or The Dumbest man in Washington (Formerly the most stupid Senator of all time).

They have NO BENCH AT ALL!

17 posted on 06/09/2012 12:13:16 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Publius804

All Bill has to do now to convince Nader is buy Obama a Corvair with wire wheels and knock-offs.


18 posted on 06/09/2012 1:32:55 AM PDT by lewislynn ( What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in commom? Misinformation)
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To: Publius804
Obama and his newly invented dance “The Walk It Back” is doing a far better job of undermining Obama than Bill Clinton could ever hope to do. Obama is confirming he truly is The Amateur everytime he opens his mouth.
19 posted on 06/09/2012 3:05:40 AM PDT by hflynn
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To: Publius804
Obama and his newly invented dance “The Walk It Back” is doing a far better job of undermining Obama than Bill Clinton could ever hope to do. Obama is confirming he truly is The Amateur everytime he opens his mouth.
20 posted on 06/09/2012 3:06:01 AM PDT by hflynn
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To: Publius804

Nader knows all about undermining.


21 posted on 06/09/2012 3:07:48 AM PDT by sauropod (You can elect your very own tyranny - Mark Levin)
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To: PGR88
The only problem with that theory is that Hillary probably dislikes Bill as much as she dislikes Obama.

And that is was formulated in Nader's "mind".

22 posted on 06/09/2012 4:18:33 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: cornfedcowboy

Why politics when she has all that Red Chinese kickback money ?


23 posted on 06/09/2012 5:06:55 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Publius804

Does this mean Ralphie might consider running? Maybe he could get Bill’s endorsement. “He’s had a sterling consumer advocate’s career!” Wow! Ralphie and Oblameyou on the same ballot. Moonbats would be apoplectic deciding which lever to pull.


24 posted on 06/09/2012 5:16:22 AM PDT by JohnEBoy
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To: Publius804
Score one for Nader. If Obama destroys this country for 4 more years then there will be no Democrat in the White House for the next 40 years and the Clintons know it.
25 posted on 06/09/2012 5:26:52 AM PDT by tobyhill (Conservatives are proud of themselves, Liberals lie about themselves)
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To: tobyhill
Nader is a deeply paranoid personality.

He worked for Daniel Patrick Moynihan at the Department of Labor decades ago and according to Moynihan, Nader approached him one day and whispered that he thought the department's phones were tapped.

Moynihan responded that it didn't matter. Nothing they were doing at the department was secret anyway...

26 posted on 06/09/2012 5:47:42 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: I still care; P-Marlowe
Hillary is about 64 years old, so 4 more years and she's not out of the running at 69.

In terms of other Democrat choices, there is Biden. Biden is already 70ish, so he'll be 74 and the VP, which generally makes him the heir-apparent. Clinton would love to have Biden tossed overboard and herself be the VP this time around, but I doubt that will happen. So, she has to keep her SecState job or some other high visability position. Biden needs to make her look bad.

It would be better if Obama/Biden lost, so far as Hillary is concerned. Then Biden would have a failure on his record, he wouldn't be in a position to undermine her, and they would be on equal footing in 2016.

Hillary is best served by an Obama loss.

She also can look to Romney's term as governor of Massachusetts which he royally screwed up. There is also a real chance of another recession/depression to start off any 1st term of his presidency. IOW, it will be hard for him to look good, and especially if there is still divided government.

So, with Biden weakened and a potentially weak Romney, Hillary is definitely best served by an Obama loss.

27 posted on 06/09/2012 5:53:12 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: cornfedcowboy
70 years old

What I find even more disconcerting is that she apppears to have an alcohol problem.

When was the last time you saw a sitting federal government staff or cabinet member holding an adult beverage? I've seen several pictures of Hillary holding a drink and in one of them she's throwing back a bottle of beer.

She also attends official meetings looking like she just crawled out of bed. I remember the picture of her with hair clips (the kind the hair stylist uses to hold back sections of hair while she works). And then there's the picture of her with a pony tail, glasses, and no make-up. These pics are evident of someone who's had a difficult time getting out of bed after a rough night.

28 posted on 06/09/2012 5:55:25 AM PDT by LoveUSA (God employs Man's strength; Satan exploits Man's weakness.)
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To: Publius804
I'm expecting for Hillary to be the president before much longer. Forget her lack of accomplishments, or anything negative about her and think like a democrat who has realized that Obama is going to drag the rest of the party down with them.

There is no reason for Hillary to wait until 2016--indeed, I would not expect her to run then unless it is as an incumbent. What I can see happening is that Biden is forced to step down for whatever reason. Obama will nominate Hillary for VP thinking to reinvigorate his campaign. Instead, he'll be forced to resign for 'health' reasons and Hillary will ascend to the presidency. Being the first woman president will be her price for coming onboard to pardon Obama from any form of prosecution, for whatever the real reason he resigns. Hillary has no reason to come onboard just to be the nominee or to run. She needs to have a guarantee as to her place in history.

The democrats will rally around Hillary as the incumbent candidate, refusing to blame her for Obama's mistakes, recalling Bill's economic successes and support her. The dems who had been utterly disgusted with Obama will flock to her and money will pour in. Hillary will be blameless, even if the dems do not win as she was willing to step in when things looked darkest for them. She will go down in history as the first woman president and, if she does not win, like I said, will not have to carry any of Obama's blame. After all, she stepped up for the good of the nation and the good of the party. For her, it's a win/win situation. Obama will get the blame as will the republicans should she win and her presidency be less than successful.

The problem is, as mentioned in other posts, that the dems have no other viable options at this point. Hillary has name recognition and the dems recall better economic times with Bill.
29 posted on 06/09/2012 7:09:18 AM PDT by Marty
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To: Publius804
If Obama is NOT the Dem nominee, Hillary would be the Dems ONLY choice. At such a late date, they could choose no one else, nor should they. Clinton's have more name recognition than Obama. They have their own organization that can be fired up in a nanosecond. They can instantly raise money.
Disillusioned Obama voters would be instantly energized by a Clinton campaign. Dems could switch from Obama to Clinton in a heartbeat. Remember electing her you would “get two for the price of one”, a THIRD Bill Clinton term.

How could this happen? As you see already in the news that Obama is imploding. The press is starting to desert him. His own party and base are not happy with him.

ALSO, June 18th a court hearing on Obama’s eligibility may be very intertesting. I know, “here we go again”, but one of these times it's going to work (meaning exposing this pos poser). This could be the one.

Also, mid June is when Sheriff Joe's cold case posse is going to drop the second shoe. Are these two things related? I don't know but it is curious/interesting.

Now do I want Obama out of the race and Hillary taking his place? HELL NO!!!! Obama can't win. Hillary would be MUCH HARDER to beat. So I hope Obama doesn't become unelectable too soon to be replaced on the ballot. Timing is everything.

While Obama won't quit on his own, he CAN be easily FORCED out.

30 posted on 06/09/2012 7:33:01 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Publius804

Even Nader can see what is happening right in front of his nose. Of course, I think the timeline might be a little off — the Rat nominee for 2012 hasn’t been named yet.


31 posted on 06/09/2012 12:11:58 PM PDT by Wordkraft (Remember who the Collaborators are.)
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To: tobyhill

I can’t believe how many don’t get the gravity of our nation’s situation and this election. If BHO destroys the country, there’ll either be NOone in the White House (at least not freely elected) or there’ll be Democrats in power permanently.


32 posted on 06/09/2012 9:38:22 PM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!!)
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To: faucetman

If all things were equal (if BHO were white) that might be true. But they have SO much invested in The Wan and between white guilt and fear of riots and racial reprisals, they’ll stubbornly stick with him, at least publicly.

That is, unless Bill/Hill see to it that something so blatantly bad about BHO is exposed that even the leftist media can’t sweep it under the rug.


33 posted on 06/09/2012 10:16:36 PM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!!)
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