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Texas GOP Oks more-lenient immigration platform
AP via The Houston Chronicle ^ | Friday, June 8, 2012 | Will Weissert

Posted on 06/08/2012 11:02:32 PM PDT by esarlls3

FORT WORTH, Texas (AP) — The Texas Republican Convention has approved a party platform on immigration conceding that mass deportation of illegal immigrants isn't practical and calling for "common ground" to develop more-realistic strategies.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; immigration; texas
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To: hocndoc

BTW, i think we should avoid that term “solution” ~ has some bad ju-ju about it ~ use some other term.


51 posted on 06/10/2012 7:05:56 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: hocndoc

Sorry for the bad typing on this awful keyboard.

The Committee lost the vote for the amendment and the substitution, twice each. By one or tw votes each time. The floor votes failed by fairly obvious voice votes, although the group of us who tried were fairly organized and had plans for serial amendments.

I,m afraid that Commissioner Patterson influenced too many and way too many were just ready to recess for the night.

It didn’t help that we had some truly fringe and disruptive people - one with a sign carried ‘round and ‘round, bless his heart, threatening to bring up amendments like reinstatement of the sodomy plank. That made the uninformed wary.

And then, there were the anarchists and Paulers in our midst, who don’t want borders or protection of any boundaries, including life and marriage.

And then, last but not least there were the ones who didn’t care unless their 3 word phrases got into the Platform. They were playing power gmes.


52 posted on 06/10/2012 7:09:47 AM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Hold Rs to promises, don't watch O keep his.)
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To: muawiyah

Oh, sure, and then I’d give ‘em another reason to film, photograph, and dramatically write down my name. (not that I’m afraid they’d be any better that the chairmen or secretaries who butchered it all week.)

Besides, I was too busy trying to figure out how to politely describe the Texas sodomy statutes (a friend suggested explaining that we’d all be felons) and trying to insert “elective” to people who didn’t care if mother’s lives were lost because “we’re all about the baby,”


53 posted on 06/10/2012 7:16:07 AM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Hold Rs to promises, don't watch O keep his.)
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To: hocndoc

Now do you see why Henry Kissinger was considered so “special”?


54 posted on 06/10/2012 12:05:36 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: hocndoc

Now do you see why Henry Kissinger was considered so “special”?


55 posted on 06/10/2012 12:05:55 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: dragnet2

How are all of these women entering the United States anyway? I can’t picture pregnant women walking many miles through the wilderness to have their anchor babies in American hospitals?


56 posted on 06/10/2012 3:43:35 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: SatinDoll

It’s time for tea party people to get together and protest employers that oppose reasonable anti-illegal alien measures.


57 posted on 06/10/2012 3:55:43 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: hocndoc

“The good news is that the Platform isn’t law. It is a list of those things we in the RPT believe. We do believe in “solutions,” not just complaints and criticisms. We will insist that our elected officials not - in any way, shape or form - promote “amnesty.””

But you know...they’re going to promote amnesty anyway.

Texas, for all its bragging, is one of the weak states when it comes to preventing an invasion from the south. The other is California. Yes, I’m comparing you to THAT state.

California lets in illegal aliens because the left-wing nuts want them for voters, and Texas lets in illegal aliens because business ‘conservatives’ want them as cheap, exploitable labor. There really isn’t much difference between the two - evil is as evil does.


58 posted on 06/10/2012 4:17:20 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT)
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To: esarlls3

This platform doesn’t sound too bad, actually.


59 posted on 06/10/2012 4:21:11 PM PDT by Lazamataz (People who resort to Godwin's Law are just like Hitler.)
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To: dragnet2

It looks like the Texas GOP have been serving their cheap labor businesses while feeding the voters their faux conservative pablum...God, guns, gays, the flag, abortion etc. Keep the voters distracted while the state fills up with illegal alien invaders and the modern day plantation owners enrich themselves.


60 posted on 06/10/2012 4:25:07 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: cradle of freedom

Easy, government at all levels rolled out the red carpet for them, and then took money from you to subsidize their health care, schooling, food stamps, welfare, so all the fatcorps and big biz can get their endless line illegal low wage labor. As big biz winks and nods, bankrolling the politicians campaigns to ensure the borders remain open and lawless.


61 posted on 06/10/2012 4:27:57 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
3. Birthright Citizenship – We call on the Legislative, Executive, and Judicial branches of the United States to clarify Section 1 of the 14th amendment to limit citizenship by birth to those born to a citizen of the United States with no exceptions.

My interpretation of this is , no more anchor babies, NOT more!

62 posted on 06/10/2012 4:31:46 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: lentulusgracchus

CORRUPTOCRATS!


63 posted on 06/10/2012 4:36:02 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: esarlls3
This doesn't seem more lenient to me, but tougher.

Am I missing something?

64 posted on 06/10/2012 4:47:44 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: dragnet2

How’s that CA economy, deficit working out?


65 posted on 06/10/2012 4:49:10 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: SatinDoll

AMEN!


66 posted on 06/10/2012 4:55:16 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: dragnet2

Hopefully, Washington won’t have any choice but to cut back on all the welfare gravy then the states will have to make some hard choices.


67 posted on 06/10/2012 5:09:12 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: lonestar

I wonder if this is just more tough talk like Rick Perry announcing his support for Texas independence.


68 posted on 06/10/2012 5:14:30 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: esarlls3

Some of their positions are very good but the following capitulation:

“Mass deportation of these individuals would neither be equitable nor practical . . . We seek common ground to develop and advance a conservative, market- and law-based approach to our nation’s immigration issues”

is pathetic.

Translation: Yes, they broke the law, sponge off taxpayers, take work from Americans, commit crimes in disproportionate numbers, bankrupt hospitals, and made demands for more services at their La Raza rallies, but it’s impractical that we try to do anything meaningful about it. Let’s reward their criminal behavior by letting them stay.


69 posted on 06/10/2012 5:44:52 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn ( White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: SatinDoll; muawiyah; esarlls3; All

Here’s the rest of our wish list:
http://texasgopvote.com/fix-immigration-practical-policy/rpt-2012-immigration-platform-texas-solution-004277

I was involved in the SubCommittee that wrote on Welfare Reform.

The stronger language failed by one vote in the whole Committee and the substitution of 2010 language failed by 2, if I remember correctly. The fact that the above language was included in the Platform (and read aloud in Committee and in the General Session) was probably the deciding factor.

Now, Satin Doll: Your whole post is so much excrement!

Texas is not weak or soft on illegal immigration. We have 1200 miles of the 2000 mile border with Mexico. We’ve been spending between $100 to $200 Million a year of Texas tax payer money on what should be Federally funded by all the States: border security and illegal alien criminals. The Feds built 11 detention centers in Texas for ICE, bring them to Texas and dump them here, sometimes even releasing them here when their Courts get too backed up. ICE also will release illegals at border towns which results in a revolving door of release and catch and release and catch.

Then, we are the State that sued to stop education of illegal aliens’ children - Tyler, Texas started the suit back in 1982, but Texas was strong in joining it.

Finally, our population has been used to crossing the border fairly freely to visit, shop and do business until the Feds let the border drug trade get to the point that people who have relatives close to the border don’t even cross anymore.

The problem is lack of Federal control of the border. It is not that Texans are “weak” or cowtow to businesses that hire.


70 posted on 06/10/2012 10:45:52 PM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Hold Rs to promises, don't watch O keep his.)
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To: hocndoc

My post is excrement?

Conservatives nation-wide won’t be so complacent when this wording, “...We seek common ground to develop and advance a conservative, market- and law-based approach to our nation’s immigration issues...” weasles its way onto the national platform because of Republicans in Texas. Especially as the laws we have are not enforced, so why have a revision!?

Millions of people are unemployed in this nation, and Texas businesses want the modern version of slave labor from south of the border! That doesn’t make sense.

Yes, the Feds have dumped on Texas. So have they dumped on everyone else in the country. So what? Those 1200 miles of border with Mexico may just become a flaspoint in a war if the U.S. economy fails and the bulk of our military in caught overseas. Mexico has been pushing for reconquest for quite some time and many of the narco trafficates are allied with Jihadists, if you didn’t know. None of us can depend on the Federal government. I guess Texas is going to be stuck with tending the border.

Don’t tell me we can’t relocate all illegal aliens - Eisenhower did it, so can we. The single most important thing that will achieve is relieving the huge, curshing welfare, social services and education burden so many states have due to illegal aliens.

And Mexico insists that wherever Mexicans go, Mexico exists. That means that when a child is born in the U.S. to Mexican citizens here illegally, that baby is a Mexican citizen! No anchor babies.

Send ‘em home.


71 posted on 06/10/2012 11:10:29 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT)
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To: raybbr
From the 2012 RPT Platform, read to the whole Committee and, as below, to the General session on Friday night. Published at http://texasgopvote.com/fix-immigration-practical-policy/rpt-2012-immigration-platform-texas-solution-004277

Driver Licenses - We propose that every Texas driver license shall indicate whether the driver is a U.S. citizen. No such license shall be issued to anyone not legally in the country.

Law Enforcement - We support limitation of criminal jurisdiction of federal law-enforcement agencies into state and local jurisdictions and encourage them to enforce the laws under federal jurisdiction. The states have the right to protect their citizens if the federal government fails to enforce their applicable laws.

Census - We oppose the Census Bureau’s obtaining data beyond the number of people residing in a dwelling, and we oppose statistical sampling adjustments. We support the actual counting of people and oppose any type of estimation or manipulation of Census data. Only U.S. citizens should be counted for the purpose of adjusting legislative districts.

Preserving American Freedom - Page #4

Real ID Act Restoring Integrity to Our Elections – Page #5.

Voter Registration - We support restoring integrity to the voter registration rolls and reducing voter fraud. We support repeal of all Motor Voter laws; re-registering voters every four years; requiring photo ID of all registrants; proof of residency and citizenship, along with voter registration application; retention of the 30-day registration deadline; and requiring that a list of certified deaths be provided to the election administrator in order that the names of deceased voters be removed from the list of registered voters.

Voting Rights - We support equal suffrage for all U.S. Citizens of voting age who are not felons. We oppose any identification of citizens by race, origin, or creed and oppose use of any such identification for purposes of creating voting districts.

Fair Election Procedures - We support modifications and strengthening of election laws to ensure ballot integrity and fair elections. We strongly urge the Texas attorney general to litigate the previously passed voter ID legislation. We support increased scrutiny and security in balloting by mail; prohibition of internet voting and any electronic voting lacking a verifiable paper trail; prohibition of mobile voting; prosecution for election fraud with jail sentences; repeal of the unconstitutional “Help America Vote Act”; and assurance that each polling place has a distinctly marked and if possible separate location for Republican and Democratic primary voting.

Honoring the Symbols of Our American Heritage – Page #6.

American English - We support adoption of American English as the official language of Texas and of the United States.

Celebrating Traditional Marriage – Page #7. Human Trafficking - The Republican Party of Texas adamantly opposes any form of human trafficking.

Strengthening Families Protecting Life and Promoting Health – Page #10.

ASSISTING FAMILIES TO SELF SUFFICIENCY Welfare Reform Welfare should offer a hand up to transition families and individuals through hard times and welfare reform should encourage partnerships with faith based institutions, community and business organizations to assist individuals in need. The current system encourages dependency on government and robs individuals and generations of healthy motivation and self-respect. It should be limited in scope. We encourage welfare reform in the following areas:
1. Denying benefits to individuals who cannot prove citizenship;
2. Welfare reforms should require recipients to work, learn, and train;
3. Reforms should require recipients to remain substance abuse free in exchange for temporary benefits not exceeding two years.
4. Recipients should be required to submit to random drug testing in order to receive benefits;
5. Welfare cards should be confined to food and vital essentials, not cigarettes, lottery purchases, or alcohol or drugs of any kind;
6. Prisoners should be removed from welfare rolls; and
7. A nominal co-pay should be required to encourage judicious utilization of health care services.

Educating Our Children – Page 11.

Bilingual Education – We encourage non-English speaking students to transition to English within three years.

College Tuition – We recommend three levels of college tuition: In-state requiring proof of Texas legal citizenship, out-of-state requiring proof of US citizenship, and nonresident legal alien. Non-US citizens should not be eligible for state or federal grants, or loans.

Educational Entitlement [page 12] – We encourage legislation that prohibits enrollment in free public schools of non-citizens unlawfully present in the United States.

Foreign Culture Charter Schools in Texas [page 13] – We oppose public funding of charter schools which receive money from foreign entities. We demand that these Charter Schools have accountability and transparency to local parents, taxpayers, the State of Texas, as do current public schools, including U.S. citizenship of principals.

Promoting Individual Freedom and Safety – Page 14.

State Militia – We support the establishment and maintenance of a volunteer Constitutional State Militia with assistance from County Sheriffs.

Electronic Privacy – We believe all law-abiding citizens should be free from government surveillance of their electronic communications except in cases directly involving national security, by court order. Except for non-citizens, we further oppose any national ID program, including the Real ID Act and the use of Radio Frequency Identification Chips (RFID) on humans.

Business and Economy - Page 19.

American Jobs – We support a favorable business climate of low taxes and deregulation to encourage capital investment, ensuring retention and creation of American jobs.

72 posted on 06/10/2012 11:17:14 PM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Hold Rs to promises, don't watch O keep his.)
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To: SatinDoll

Texas is not weak. That one sentence is weak. Read the rest of the Platform, at least the others I pointed out in the post you replied to.

David Barton is our male delegate to the National Platform, Bill Crocker is still our National Committee Man. That sentence won’t move up.


73 posted on 06/10/2012 11:33:08 PM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Hold Rs to promises, don't watch O keep his.)
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To: hocndoc
ICE detention centers, Texas prisons and even federal prisons ~ maybe hospitals ~ build them right on the border (which is the river). On one side there are armed guards in towers, an imposing fence with barbed wire, the whole works.

On the river side there is a boardwalk ~ actually a nice one, with concrete and steel superstucture so it can withstand floods and bad weather ~ you can go all the way out to the end, in the middle of the river, and fish. There are boats there with small electric motors.

Just across the river there's Mexico. The United States government sponsors a taco stand and it's not just a taco stand ~ they sell prime beef asado ~ sliced just so, and placed gently into the fold of a FRESH taco ~ you can see the Indian woman there at the grill, and she's rolling out corn tortillas, then tossing them on the iron skillet ~ pulling them out ~ stacking them up. Thousands of bottles of Ice cold Dosequis is right there in a bank of coolers.

Vegetable trucks are coming up the road with the finest of lettuce and tomatos ~ fresh picked!

The queso factory can be seen just past that line of trees.

You actually cannot get a better taco in Mexico! Certainly nothing in the United States can equal those tacos ~ no where! Not even homemade and I can do homemade.

So, there you are, in prison, and on one side you could be shot down like a dog if you tried to escape. On the other side it's beer, and a short boat ride to the world's finest tacos.

What's not to like.

This is MUAWIYAH"S SELF DEPORTATION PLAN.

74 posted on 06/11/2012 7:23:42 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

hehehe
(how much you going to spend in total?)


75 posted on 06/11/2012 7:45:22 AM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Hold Rs to promises, don't watch O keep his.)
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To: dragnet2

Remember how a few years back Congress passed a law outlawing medicaid to illegal aliens? I wonder how that is working out, if they indeed are enforcing it.

I would love to know how Parkland Hospital can afford to pay for 1,000 anchor babies born there every month? Are the illegal alien mothers still getting medicaid, even though there was a law passed against that or is Parkland getting some other federal subsidy that makes up for the loses. Many hospitals have had to shut down because of illegal aliens yet Parkland doesn’t seem to have any problems at all. Hmmmm. The money bags person would probably be someone high up like a governor, former governor, former president or US senator.


76 posted on 06/11/2012 7:53:08 AM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: hocndoc
I'm selling the tacos and the beer ~ but we'd need the hospitals, prisons and jails anyway.

Maybe the "predator boats" cost something, but they only return to the US Side EMPTY

77 posted on 06/11/2012 8:37:15 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SatinDoll
Don’t tell me we can’t relocate all illegal aliens - Eisenhower did it, so can we.

As a Texan, I'd sure like to see Operation Wetback 2.0. Other than lacking the spine to do so, there's no reason whatsoever why it can't be done now.

78 posted on 06/11/2012 12:53:21 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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