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Arctic discovery: Massive algae bloom raises crucial (Global Warming) questions
Los Angeles Times ^ | June 8, 2012 | Amy Hubbard

Posted on 06/09/2012 4:21:59 AM PDT by Zakeet

NASA has revealed its discovery of a massive algae bloom under the slowly diminishing Arctic ice -- a finding that made scientists' eyes pop. But does this never-before-seen phenomenon change the fate of this microscopic algae?

Not long ago, this crucial plant life -- which produces much of the world's oxygen -- was reported in a century-long tailspin.

Here's the back story.

The same year that NASA researchers launched the Icescape expedition to the Arctic -- the project that resulted in NASA's astounding new discovery -- there was a dire report on the world's phytoplankton.

A Canadian team said in the journal Nature, as The Times reported in July 2010, that the world's phytoplankton had been disappearing at a rate of about 1% a year for the previous 100 years.

"A global decline of this magnitude? It's quite shocking," Daniel Boyce, Dalhousie University marine scientist and lead author of the 2010 study, told The Times.

Phytoplankton -- the basis of the marine food chain -- "are key to the whole ecosystem," he said. "In terms of climate changes, the effect on fisheries, we don't know exactly what these effects will be."

Could his latest discovery of a mass of phytoplankton in the Arctic signal a turnaround for this crucial organism?

The jury's out.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: algae; arctic; environment; globalwarming; gorebalism

You right wing nuts need to realize that this is undoubtedly bad news ... because even though plankton reduces carbon dioxide ... this newly discovered batch is emitting its own toxic gasses ... and increasing global warming ... and are killing fish ... and enlarging the hole in the ozone layer ... and destroying rain forests ... and causing a hydrocarbon spill in the fragile arctic environment ... and leading to mass extinctions ... and it's all because you selfish pigs continue to drive your SUV's and use power lawn mowers ... which is why we need much more government funded research ... and a carbon tax!

1 posted on 06/09/2012 4:22:20 AM PDT by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet

As for myself and some others I speak to, science has lost it’s credibility. The cataclysmic rise of the oceans did not happen, the significant loss of Himalayan ice didn’t happen. Now we are not surprised that we are not all doing to die from the loss of phytoplankton. Global warming extremism and a few pharmaceutical disappointments have caused a bit of distrust.


2 posted on 06/09/2012 4:30:31 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia. 2016 starts today!)
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To: Zakeet

” ... because even though plankton reduces carbon dioxide ... this newly discovered batch is emitting its own toxic gasses ... and increasing global warming ... and are killing fish ... and enlarging the hole in the ozone layer ... and destroying rain forests ...”

You could be Gore’s press secretary!


3 posted on 06/09/2012 4:34:41 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Zakeet
You right wing nuts need to realize that this is undoubtedly bad news ... because even though plankton reduces carbon dioxide ... this newly discovered batch is emitting its own toxic gasses ... and increasing global warming ... and are killing fish ... and enlarging the hole in the ozone layer ... and destroying rain forests ... and causing a hydrocarbon spill in the fragile arctic environment ... and leading to mass extinctions ... and it's all because you selfish pigs continue to drive your SUV's and use power lawn mowers ... which is why we need much more government funded research ... and a carbon tax!
Excellent!
4 posted on 06/09/2012 4:37:48 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Zakeet

Obama gave a directive to NASA head, its mission is ‘moooooslem outreach’.

Keep JPL as academic affiliate, shrink 90% of rest of NASA, the work they do nowadays doesn’t amount to a lot of beans.


5 posted on 06/09/2012 4:46:58 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Zakeet
"A Canadian team said in the journal Nature, as The Times reported in July 2010, that the world's phytoplankton had been disappearing at a rate of about 1% a year for the previous 100 years.

"A global decline of this magnitude? It's quite shocking," Daniel Boyce,"

Ok Danny boy.. help me out here.

1. Either you suck at math or the phytoplankton is now gone.

Or...

2. That the percentage of biomass is reduced by 1% per year over the total 100 years based on some made up arbitrary number of what you think the total mass was to begin with.

Or...

3. You're just talking out your butt.

I'm picking number 3.
6 posted on 06/09/2012 4:47:19 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: momincombatboots

I was watching the Michael Jackson documentary “This Is It” the other night and I had seen it before but just caught it the other night when he was standing on the stage in a pep talk and prayer with his dancers and crew telling them “We have 1 year to turn it all around and save the world or there is no going back and we will be finished”

Hey Mike...Mike? Mike? Still here? No?

We are.


7 posted on 06/09/2012 4:49:49 AM PDT by My Favorite Headache (In a world where I feel so small, I can't stop thinking big. Vote Newt!)
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To: Zakeet
NASA has revealed its discovery of a massive collection of American SUVs under a slowly diminishing cloud cover -- a finding that made scientists' eyes pop. But does this never-before-so-many-in-such-a-small-area phenomenon seal the fate of mankind.. er, personkind?

Yes! warned aged 1960s spoiled brat Al Gore

8 posted on 06/09/2012 4:52:12 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Zakeet

Here’s another, I think more informative, link to a ScienceNow article printed in the Anchorage Daily News: http://www.adn.com/2012/06/08/2496664/scientific-expedition-discovers.html


9 posted on 06/09/2012 4:53:29 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: momincombatboots

Greenland, man, GREENLAND. Its glacier had been receding.

/Uh hummmmm. Switch off my imitation of GW alarmist mode.

Please don’t lump science and scientists in general with ambitious people with political agenda (a small fraction of science community).

Those studies weren’t ‘science’ and the methodology/application not ‘scientific’.


10 posted on 06/09/2012 4:56:22 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Bigh4u2
Well he is talking our of his but however ...oh I just got up and don't want to do the math. It's kind of like reverse interest. Say you start with 1 dollar and increase at 1 percent per year.

At the end of the first year you have 1 dollar AND 1 cent. The next years interest is earned on the 1 dollar and 1 cent so you make a bit MORE.

Now do the same thing but in reverse.

My head hurts.

11 posted on 06/09/2012 4:56:53 AM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt the Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: Bigh4u2

Far be it from me to defend this drivel but, it could be the writer means each year the count is down 1% from the year before - a geometric progression that does not end in zero - kinda like walking half way to the wall with each step.

But a projection like this requires that you accurately measure the phytowhaterver count every year. To my knowledge, there was not/is not a yearly plankton census commencing in 1912.

These people are so unhappy when the sky isn’t falling.
What a dismal life.


12 posted on 06/09/2012 5:07:23 AM PDT by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: momincombatboots
science has lost it’s credibility. The cataclysmic rise of the oceans did not happen, the significant loss of Himalayan ice didn’t happen.

See!

Electing O'bama was the right thing to do!

He TOLD us it would stop if he was elected!

13 posted on 06/09/2012 5:13:14 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Zakeet

Never seen before is NOT the same as never happened before.


14 posted on 06/09/2012 5:15:41 AM PDT by DManA
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To: momincombatboots

You’re right. Science IS going through a crisis of credibility. I’m sure you’ve read about the staggering numbers of peer reviewed journal articles filled with made up data, hidden relevant data, and articles filled with just plain junk.

Science as seen through the dirty lenses of Big Media is even more trashy.


15 posted on 06/09/2012 5:20:42 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Zakeet

OMG, OMG, Mother Nature did something we didn’t predict and don’t understand but it is bad and we are all going to die if we don’t get a huge grant to study it. /algore rant


16 posted on 06/09/2012 5:21:29 AM PDT by CPOSharky (zero slogan: Expect less, pay more. (apologies to Target))
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To: Izzy Dunne

George Walker Bush
Global Warming Believers

Coincidence? I think not.


17 posted on 06/09/2012 5:21:50 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (ABO 2012)
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To: Zakeet

Did anyone notice that losing 1% of photoplankton a year for a hundred years adds up to 100%?


18 posted on 06/09/2012 5:33:19 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: bossmechanic

1% a year for a hundred years equals damn near gone.


19 posted on 06/09/2012 5:35:57 AM PDT by csmusaret (I will give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.)
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To: Zakeet

The best part of the article is the picture of al with a tree growing out of his head. The photographer knew exactly what he/she was doing.


20 posted on 06/09/2012 5:39:39 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: Zakeet

The heaviest ice pack in the history of satellite observations and they’re worried about retreating ice?


21 posted on 06/09/2012 5:44:16 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: DManA

I have indeed. Science has left the realm of true exercise in intellect and become a business. It happened with health care in the late 80s, the government gave healthcare to the insurers and turned it into a business. Now they see it as losing money and want to ration it. The same can be said for the progression of science. For a while, we truly sought knowledge, now they truly seek grants. Also, government sponsored regulations censor true science.
The crisis of peer review has been sacrificed to money. There were folks committed to science who didn’t have a lavish lifestyle. I know they are still out there, purists. I would like to think those working in the Haldron collider project are the old- fashioned scientist. Not the scientist of politics. /rant off.


22 posted on 06/09/2012 5:46:30 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia. 2016 starts today!)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
” ... because even though plankton reduces carbon dioxide ... this newly discovered batch is emitting its own toxic gasses ... and increasing global warming ... and are killing fish ... and enlarging the hole in the ozone layer ... and destroying rain forests ...” You could be Gore’s press secretary!

Yep - not enough plankton = doom. Discovery that plankton is not disappearing = doom. Need to save the Earth so Man can survive. Existence of Man is a bad thing....

23 posted on 06/09/2012 5:52:14 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: csmusaret; DaxtonBrown

Subtracting 1% per year means that each year is 99% of the previous year.


24 posted on 06/09/2012 5:53:32 AM PDT by CPOSharky (zero slogan: Expect less, pay more. (apologies to Target))
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To: CPOSharky
Subtracting 1% per year means that each year is 99% of the previous year.

If you continue that for 100 years, the total after year 100 is about 36.6% of the beginning amount.

(According to an Excel spreadsheet I set up using the Fill command.)

25 posted on 06/09/2012 6:08:23 AM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: DaxtonBrown

I did, and without any growth rate we are all dead in 100 years. But the environmentalists having been saying this since the 60’s and they are always wrong.

Earth Day 1970 - predicted 2 billion deaths from starvation and pollution by the year 2000. That didn’t happen because it was a lie. Now we have too many people so they want to put sterilants in the water. (Ask Obama’s science czar John Holdren!) They want renewable energy but they are fighting wind in solar projects all over the country. The National Audubon Society is suing a wind project in Oregon, etc. They cry about animal habitat being destroyed by climate change yet they want no renewable energy in their personal playgrounds.

ALL ENVIRONMENTALISTS ARE LIARS

1970 EARTH DAY PREDICTIONS
“We have about five more years at the outside to do something.”
• Kenneth Watt, ecologist

“Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.”
• George Wald, Harvard Biologist

“We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation.”
• Barry Commoner, Washington University biologist

“Man must stop pollution and conserve his resources, not merely to enhance existence but to save the race from intolerable deterioration and possible extinction.”
• New York Times editorial, the day after the first Earth Day

“Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.”
• Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist

“By…[1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s.”
• Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist

“It is already too late to avoid mass starvation.”
• Denis Hayes, chief organizer for Earth Day

“Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions….By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.”
• Peter Gunter, professor, North Texas State University

“Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support…the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution…by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half….”
• Life Magazine, January 1970

“At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it’s only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable.”
• Kenneth Watt, Ecologist


26 posted on 06/09/2012 6:16:19 AM PDT by Titus-Maximus (Light from Light)
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To: savedbygrace

Actually it’s great news. Obama will make oil out of the algae,,,somehow. I know he will


27 posted on 06/09/2012 6:17:53 AM PDT by nobamanomore
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To: Sir Napsalot

Did you notice there was not much reaction in the Lame-Stream Media the other week when the old photos of Greenland’s ice were found.

A float plane expedition around Greenland in the early 30’s photographed large sections of ice fields and it showed much smaller ice fields than they have today.


28 posted on 06/09/2012 6:20:21 AM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: momincombatboots
And the Greenland ice sheet retreat is slower than thought and will slow more when it isn't over water.

These guys are glorified “weatherman” (not the Bill Ayers type). They can't accurately predict the weather 5 minutes from now, but they can predict events hundreds or thousands of years from now?

Even NASA has been corrupted by Muslims. You can't believe any of these A$$HOLES.

29 posted on 06/09/2012 6:20:27 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Zakeet
Man-Bear-Pig-Bush ...
30 posted on 06/09/2012 6:32:05 AM PDT by shove_it (just undo it)
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To: shove_it
Man-Bear-Pig-Bush ..

LOL! Anybody could have told you he's a stump head.

31 posted on 06/09/2012 6:34:23 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (Goode or Evil, that's the choice.)
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To: Zakeet
"The question becomes, if we take our current finding ... does it change that global picture," she said. "That's one of the things the science team is going to have to look at. ... It most certainly changes what we thought was happening in the Arctic."

So basically they were as wrong as you could get but somehow this will still be "validation" of global warming which is perpetuated by big oil and other fossil fuels according to Lord Democrats.

32 posted on 06/09/2012 6:37:46 AM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: Zakeet
"It's premature to say if it's good news or bad news," Bontempi said. First scientists must get their arms around this discovery

In other words, 'it's too soon to tell how we can spin it to the liberal's advantage as we cannot let any good 'discovery' go to waste'.

33 posted on 06/09/2012 6:40:47 AM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: Zakeet
"Things are happening on this planet that we never knew existed."

But yet the liberals want to dictate a course of action and that mankind is causing the damage. Liberals will never admit they have no clue how the earth can heal itself and that there is even a higher power known as God.

34 posted on 06/09/2012 6:43:20 AM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: faucetman
“And the Greenland ice sheet retreat is slower than thought...”

The very name “Greenland” should be the tip-off that perhaps the thawing of ice there isn't something new or something to worry about.

35 posted on 06/09/2012 6:48:56 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Zakeet
"this newly discovered batch is emitting its own toxic gasses ... and increasing global warming ... and are killing fish ... and enlarging the hole in the ozone layer ... and destroying rain forests ... and causing a hydrocarbon spill in the fragile arctic environment ... and leading to mass extinctions ..

You forgot it also increases erectile dysfunction and can cause Owls to morph into Pterodactyls and sometimes even Unicorns.

36 posted on 06/09/2012 6:52:27 AM PDT by scram2
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To: shove_it

” Man-Bear-Pig-Bush”

Lol!!!


37 posted on 06/09/2012 7:04:21 AM PDT by goseminoles
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To: Bigh4u2

Bump!


38 posted on 06/09/2012 7:08:32 AM PDT by Choozer
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To: shove_it

It’s never too soon to PANIC ... and to contribute to my Save the Planet PAC! Act now or die holding your breath! Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha.


39 posted on 06/09/2012 7:11:53 AM PDT by Choozer
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To: Zakeet
That picture of Al Gore pointing reminds me of the scene in the Shining when Haloran is having a vision of the Overlook Hotel when he is down in Miami FL and hears a weather report on tv of huge snowfall in Colorado where the Overlook is located. In this vision you see Danny also in this vision too,(not sure if they were communicating with each other or not) but the image of Danny Torrence where he is in this state of consciousness or whatever, it looks like the same expression.


40 posted on 06/09/2012 7:27:25 AM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: Zakeet

41 posted on 06/09/2012 7:47:30 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Zakeet

WOW! What a wonderful sight. Just imagine how much oil this algae will generate when Obozo’s green energy loons figure out how to do it!!!!!


42 posted on 06/09/2012 7:47:36 AM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: Gumdrop

Isn’t producing more CO2 kinda like watering the lawn? More junk in the air the more grass we get, I’d vote for that I like green lawns.


43 posted on 06/09/2012 8:28:36 AM PDT by ully2
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To: Zakeet

Holly Crap, its eating up all our CO2, gotta stop that or our story goes plop!!


44 posted on 06/09/2012 8:32:40 AM PDT by ully2
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To: Zakeet

The carbon dioxide and minerals to feed these Arctic blooms most likely comes from volcanic eruptions under the ice.

“Arctic Volcanoes Found Active at Unprecedented Depths”(2008)

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/06/080626-arctic-volcano.html

Algae would be very receptive to massive amounts of CO2 and nitrous oxide gases trapped under the ice, as this would be pure nutrients.

Importantly, the upwelling of warm water from such volcanoes could go a long way in explaining thinning Arctic ice as well.


45 posted on 06/09/2012 8:37:33 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Zakeet

46 posted on 06/09/2012 8:38:12 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Zakeet
From the article,

“NASA has revealed its discovery of a massive algae bloom under the slowly diminishing Arctic ice.”

Arctic ice extent is extremely cyclic but has been increasing for the past several years, since a low in 2007. So how do the warmists react to this data. Generally they try to ignore the more recent data. But there have also been many articles in the last several years trying to explain why there is more arctic and antarctic ice in a “warming world”. In these articles they usually assure us that a rapid decline is just around the corner.

47 posted on 06/09/2012 8:50:40 AM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: bossmechanic

“But a projection like this requires that you accurately measure the phytowhaterver count every year. To my knowledge, there was not/is not a yearly plankton census commencing in 1912.”

So, you picked number 2....

:0)


48 posted on 06/09/2012 9:23:38 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Zakeet
Plumes of algae most likely due to thermal vents on floor of Arctic ocean. Much to complicated for loons like Gore to understand though.

Arctic Thermal Vents

49 posted on 06/10/2012 12:06:54 PM PDT by Mogollon (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -- Thomas Jefferson)
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