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Spotted owl could be game-changer in Tombstone water war
CNN ^ | June 9, 2012 | Ann O'Neill

Posted on 06/09/2012 10:42:26 AM PDT by inkling

Tombstone, Arizona (CNN) -- The six Forest Service rangers suddenly crouched, whispering, on their way up the rocky mountain trail. It was early Friday afternoon, the first day of the Tombstone Shovel Brigade, and the rangers were out in force, hiking to the spot where dozens of volunteers worked with picks and shovels to move and bury Tombstone's makeshift water line.

Shhh! Look! Do you see it?

The rangers stopped in their tracks. Binoculars emerged from pockets, and fingers pointed to a stand of trees.

And there it was, a Mexican spotted owl, perched high in a pine tree. It was a male, the rangers said, with his back turned to the intruders. He scratched and preened. But mostly, the owl seemed to be watching the nest in a nearby sycamore tree where his mate tended to an owlet.

The owl is a threatened species, and until a few days ago its presence in fire-scorched Miller Canyon was a matter of speculation. But now that it has surfaced, the owl could be a game-changer in the water war between the U.S. Forest Service and the Wild West city made famous by the 30-second gunfight at the O.K. Corral.

Tombstone is trying to repair a 26-mile pipeline that has brought mountain spring water into the city since 1881. It was damaged during last summer's Monument Fire and monsoon rains that brought mud, water and boulders crashing down the denuded slopes...

With the conservative Goldwater Institute taking on Tombstone's legal work, the court battle has blossomed into a full-blown states rights dispute. Tombstone is getting the attention of activists from Utah, New Mexico and other Western states who say the federal government has gone too far. It has become ground zero in a rekindled Sagebrush Rebellion.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: agenda21; ar; environazis; federalism; statesrights; un21; unagenda21; waterrights
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1 posted on 06/09/2012 10:42:37 AM PDT by inkling
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To: inkling

The owl came to ask the Federales “Whoo-oo do you think you are?”


2 posted on 06/09/2012 10:44:13 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Let me ABOs run loose Lou!)
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To: inkling

Just go up and shot the owl. Problem solved. Might have to get a few rangers as well.


3 posted on 06/09/2012 10:45:11 AM PDT by jimpick
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To: inkling

Raise your hand if you didn’t see this one coming.


4 posted on 06/09/2012 10:45:30 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: inkling
Reminds me of when they found conveniently found endangered-lynx hairs.

NPR: Lynx Conservation Under Fire

5 posted on 06/09/2012 10:45:53 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Do I really need a "sarcasm" tag? Seriously? You're that dense?)
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To: inkling

” It was early Friday afternoon, the first day of the Tombstone Shovel Brigade, and the rangers were out in force, hiking to the spot where dozens of volunteers worked with picks and shovels to move and bury Tombstone’s makeshift water line. “

There was a time, in Arizona, when those bird-watching Rangers would have disappeared without a trace..

Just sayin’....


6 posted on 06/09/2012 10:46:04 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: inkling

More liberal bull****! Every time the commie ‘RATS don’t get their way, they dig out their “Mexican” Spotted Owl or “Mexican” Gray Wolf or some other “Mexican”. They probably saw a “Mexican” sparrow.


7 posted on 06/09/2012 10:46:40 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Free Stuff or Freedom! You Decide 2012.)
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To: inkling

I used to own a lot more land than I do now. One day, my momma (passed two years ago) told me, “I saw what looked like one of them in one of your trees on the way over here.”

That weekend I “Poulaned” it. Case closed.


8 posted on 06/09/2012 10:48:03 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: inkling

I am convinced that activists actually plant these endangered species and then lead officials to them.

I am certain that it happened in our county with some silly frog that was not native to this county.

On top of that, the spotted owl only living in old growth forests is an out dated theory, considering that in WA State, a spotted owl nested in a fir tree in a traffic circle in Everett, WA. The DNR people moved the nest to a more natural location.


9 posted on 06/09/2012 10:49:21 AM PDT by Eva
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To: Uncle Ike

I wonder, seriously, what brought the owl. Don’t owls need water just like every other creature? Could the excavation have brought both that and a shelter for the owl’s normal food?

Good science deserves to prevail here. Just because there’s a rare birdie around doesn’t mean that construction activity is going to make it go away.


10 posted on 06/09/2012 10:50:28 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Let me ABOs run loose Lou!)
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To: inkling
Check to see if it was just attached to the limb with a nail. It's a beautiful bird, lovely plumage.
11 posted on 06/09/2012 10:59:46 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (You only have three billion heartbeats in a lifetime.How many does the government claim as its own?)
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To: inkling
I'm sure the six Rangers all thought to document the owl with a photograph.

I noticed that the CNN photo is of an owl in the forest, not that specific sighting.

If the Rangers forgot, they might try the local K Mart sign, spotted owls prefer those.

12 posted on 06/09/2012 11:01:57 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it and the law is what WE say it is.)
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To: inkling
This kind of bureaucracy is a runaway train. They "find a spotted owl" and there will be buckets of money from FedGov to keep them in clover for the rest of their careers. In many of these rural counties, resource industries are so depleted by regulation that government is the largest employer. Tombstone will dry up and the bureaucrats, contractors, and other hangers on will dominate local elections.

It's time for the County sheriff to show these creeps the door.

13 posted on 06/09/2012 11:02:42 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party Switcheroo: Economic crisis! Zero eligibility Trumped!! Hillary 2012!!!)
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To: inkling

The owl probably put his nest there when he found out that there would be men working with shovels there. So why would that be bad of the shovel brigade???


14 posted on 06/09/2012 11:02:52 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Carry_Okie

“It’s time for the County sheriff to show these creeps the door.
3 Guesses who the County Sheriff of tombstone is? You really only need 1 guess. Yup, Maricopa’s Sheriff Arpaio.


15 posted on 06/09/2012 11:07:21 AM PDT by bunster
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To: inkling

Tombstone's solution to the Owl problem

2 cloves of garlic

light salt

2 tsp of sage


16 posted on 06/09/2012 11:08:06 AM PDT by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: inkling

Well, there you go. If the owl survived the original pipeline installation, they can survive the repair. Case closed.


17 posted on 06/09/2012 11:09:51 AM PDT by Kirkwood (It's not a lie. It's a composite.)
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To: bunster

Wrong, Tombstone is not in Maricopa County, it is in Cochise County. Different Sheriff


18 posted on 06/09/2012 11:10:14 AM PDT by abigkahuna
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To: bunster

<< 3 Guesses who the County Sheriff of tombstone is? You really only need 1 guess. Yup, Maricopa’s Sheriff Arpaio. >>

Bzzzt - Wrong answer. Tombstone is in Cochise County, not Maricopa County.


19 posted on 06/09/2012 11:11:48 AM PDT by Klaatu Barada Nikto (Liberty is not a Loophole)
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To: abigkahuna

Durn it — Yes, i am wrong and I googled it too. It must have brought up “a tombstone in Maricopa” rather than City. Ha Ha — too late to get out of that one I know.

Sorry.


20 posted on 06/09/2012 11:12:30 AM PDT by bunster
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To: KarlInOhio
It's a beautiful bird, lovely plumage.

Perhaps it should join the choir invisible?

21 posted on 06/09/2012 11:14:27 AM PDT by SES1066 (Government is NOT the reason for my existence!)
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To: Eva
I am convinced that activists actually plant these endangered species and then lead officials to them.

They have been caught at this dozens of times, and there is never any prosecution or consequences. They are even allowed to continue presenting "studies" in court after perjury.

A favorite trick is to transplant a food plant for an endangered species (particularly insects) as they tend not to wander away, and the plants are similarly protected.

22 posted on 06/09/2012 11:15:07 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it and the law is what WE say it is.)
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To: inkling

The Mexican Spotted Owl is rare in Arizona, but there are plenty of them over the border. One nesting pair held up construction of an interstate interchange south of Tucson for a while a couple years ago.


23 posted on 06/09/2012 11:15:26 AM PDT by Reo (the 4th Estate is a 5th Column)
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To: Navy Patriot

I think that they transplanted a pocket gopher to a county in SW Wa and have been using it to stop development on private property.

I don’t know why the property owners don’t just spread insecticide and get rid of the food that the gophers eat. It’s a very easy solution.


24 posted on 06/09/2012 11:20:43 AM PDT by Eva
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I live in a very urban area crisscrossed with numerous interstate and other divided limited access highways ~ AND ~ we had an eagle nesting in a tree in my backyard.


25 posted on 06/09/2012 11:21:12 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Just because there’s a rare birdie around doesn’t mean that construction activity is going to make it go away.

Actually, many species 'flock' to activity by 'man', because they know what slobs most people are, and that they don't eat all their food, and throw 'out' the remains, which the animals then feed on.

I was at a Mexican style restaurant that had outside eating accommodations.

The birds were there, just waiting, and fearlessly flew in to pick up any scrap discarded on the ground.

26 posted on 06/09/2012 11:24:38 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: muawiyah

Hell, we can see em all day here by I-95 in Florida.
In fact, it sounds like you live near me in PSL Florida


27 posted on 06/09/2012 11:25:26 AM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: inkling

http://www.federalpremium.com/products/shotshell.aspx


28 posted on 06/09/2012 11:26:26 AM PDT by varmintman
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To: Navy Patriot

We had a young bear on our property when we first started to clear the land. The loggers and the neighbors saw it walking down the street. The problem was there were no adult bears in the area. It seems cruel to drop off a young bear in an area where there are no other bears and I believe that is what happened.


29 posted on 06/09/2012 11:27:03 AM PDT by Eva
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To: inkling
Mexican spotted owl

So we're catering to illegal-alien birds now, too?

30 posted on 06/09/2012 11:29:05 AM PDT by kevao
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To: inkling
OWL3: "Don't those people working on the water line bother you?"

OWL2: "Bother me? No. I watching to see if they leave their lunchboxes open."

OWL1: "I'm hungry too, but if those stupid Forest Rangers don't quit spying on us with those binoculars, we are all leaving."


31 posted on 06/09/2012 11:31:18 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: bill1952

Next to i-95/I-395/I-495, VA 286, 7900, and a variety of other freeways and byways ~ and dead trees. Eagles need a large dead treebranch for takeoff and landing.


32 posted on 06/09/2012 11:32:02 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Eva
There is more than one way to skin a homeowner.

The EPA has banned many of the effective poisons and insecticides that were available, and have effectively made it very difficult to eliminate vermin.

Recently, an entrepreneur has developed a method of injecting oxygen and propane into the gopher holes and igniting it to create underground explosions.

Seems very effective, watching for this method to be banned, too dangerous to something or other, ya know.

33 posted on 06/09/2012 11:35:40 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it and the law is what WE say it is.)
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To: Gaffer

That’s amazing! I could never get a danged Poulan to run long enough to get anything done.


34 posted on 06/09/2012 11:38:27 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: UCANSEE2
I was at a Mexican style restaurant that had outside eating accommodations.
The birds were there, just waiting, and fearlessly flew in to pick up any scrap discarded on the ground.

I had the same experience at a ski resort in CO. Birds would swoop down and light on the same picnic table I was eating at, and wait for me to get up. The locals called them "camp robbers" but I don't know what their official name was.

35 posted on 06/09/2012 11:40:31 AM PDT by ZOOKER ( Exploring the fine line between cynicism and outright depression)
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To: Navy Patriot

Rodenator! Great videos and likn of looks like fun! http://www.rodenator.com/pests-controls-videos-rodenators


36 posted on 06/09/2012 11:55:25 AM PDT by WellyP (REAL)
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To: rockinqsranch

I agree. I bought one some time ago when I was logging and tried to use it to trim my loads. After about a half hour of pulling on the G dammed thing I used it for a hammer and that was the end of that.

I went back and bought another Johnsered.


37 posted on 06/09/2012 11:56:33 AM PDT by crz
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To: Reo

The MEXICAN Spotted Owl....great, another ILLEGAL.....


38 posted on 06/09/2012 11:57:19 AM PDT by goodnesswins (What has happened to America?)
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To: Eva

The officials probably pant the ‘endangered’ species.


39 posted on 06/09/2012 11:59:55 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: inkling

We need to elect more Jeff Flakes to Congress.


40 posted on 06/09/2012 12:04:19 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: WellyP

Saw a gopher launched into the air in at least one of the kabooms.


41 posted on 06/09/2012 12:05:17 PM PDT by raccoonnookkeeper (I keep raccoons in a nook!)
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To: crz; rockinqsranch

You forgot the magic French word to make the Poulan go.

Teeeeeem-bearrrrrrrr! (cf the Lumberjack in Pink Panther cartoons)


42 posted on 06/09/2012 12:07:30 PM PDT by raccoonnookkeeper (I keep raccoons in a nook!)
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To: crz

Yup. I bought the Poulan on sale. Was a great deal, but then didn’t use it right away. It sat in the box past warranty, and then when I needed it like yourself couldn’t get the danged thing to start. Took it to a repair shop locally, and had the carburater serviced. It would start after that, but wouldn’t continue running. Rather than put another nickel into that piece of junk, I bought an ECHO, and have been sawing away ever since.

I noted the model Poulan I had on sale at giveaway prices at a major tool store for awhile, but then they disappeared.


43 posted on 06/09/2012 12:09:39 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: inkling

IT'S COMING RIGHT FOR US!!!


44 posted on 06/09/2012 12:10:21 PM PDT by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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To: Navy Patriot

LOL! My son used to plant fireworks with long fuses in all the gopher holes, but all that did was drive them into a neighbors yard until he did something similar.

Spectracide works wonders. Just apply it with a spreader and kill the grubs that the gophers are feeding on. Heck, you have a right to protect your lawn from the grubs.


45 posted on 06/09/2012 12:16:26 PM PDT by Eva
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To: inkling

Spotted Owl - Endangered? Sheesh, these things seem to be all over the place.


46 posted on 06/09/2012 12:17:01 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: ZOOKER

“Camp Robber” is a generic term, but are usually Gray, Canada or Blue Jays.


47 posted on 06/09/2012 12:24:06 PM PDT by jimtorr
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To: bunster
El Wrongo!

Tombstone is NOT in Maricopa County. It is in Cochise County. The Sheriff there is Larry Dever.

48 posted on 06/09/2012 12:28:18 PM PDT by Tupelo (TeaParty member, but no longer a Republican)
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To: Eva
Spectracide works wonders. Just apply it with a spreader...

Thanks, I'll remember that.

49 posted on 06/09/2012 12:32:58 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it and the law is what WE say it is.)
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To: inkling

Tombstone should have had from long ago , a surveyed right-of-way for the waterline. It probably was even deeded to the city. Even if not the city should be applying for the two as part of the project. The Feds could go pound owlburger if there was a right-of-way for the line. The line should have carried a “water right”. In many cases that right-of-way becomes part of the city. So many times I see these things get out of hand because the young fuzz-faced kids running the town don’t know the rules, don’t know how to look up the rules, and just keep playing the pressure hoping for a useful outcome. I’ve stopped several of these fights in their tracks locally simply by explaining the old rules to the diaper crowd.——the snivelers just shut up and slink off.


50 posted on 06/09/2012 12:42:03 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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