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Maryland residents leaving for Virginia
Culpeper Star-Exponent ^ | June 07, 2012

Posted on 06/09/2012 4:28:54 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin

Back in January, we noted in this space that Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley and Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell "offer competing political visions. … McDonnell stresses fiscal restraint and believes government should live within its means," while O'Malley "sees taxes as boosters of prosperity."

The piece noted that others have remarked on the dichotomy — such as The Washington Post's metro columnist, Robert McCartney, who wrote: "Two states. Two governors. Two philosophies. Take your pick and see which succeeds." We concluded "conservatives are fond of likening the states to laboratories of public policy. The experiments on opposite sides of the Potomac will be fun to watch."

It's getting funner by the minute.

The other day, Larry Hogan, chairman of a nonpartisan group called Change Maryland, penned a piece for Reason magazine. He noted that Maryland and Virginia have "similar economies, demographics and a shared dependence on federal government employment and procurement" — but "sharply divergent job growth."

Our neighbor to the north "accounted for the largest taxpayer exodus of any state in the region between 2007 and 2010," Hogan writes, "with a net migration resulting in 31,000 residents having left the state. Where did most of them go? Virginia. Virginia is now home to nearly 11,500 former Marylanders — a shift of $390 million from the tax rolls of one state to another. … That's the position Maryland finds itself in after six years of damaging tax increases. Since 2007, taxes and fees have been raised 24 times, taking an additional $2.4 billion out of the economy each year."

But Maryland's tax-happy governor doesn't seem to have gotten the hint: "When Northrop Grumman opted to relocate its corporate headquarters in Northern Virginia over Maryland in 2010, the governor said 'it was a win for the Washington region,' as if the Redskins won the Super Bowl. It was not a win for Maryland job seekers who would have liked to work for the defense contractor. Other such 'regional wins' include Maryland losing out to Virginia in every major corporate relocation in recent years. Add Computer Sciences Corporation, Hilton Worldwide, SAIC and Volkswagen North America to the growing list of companies that chose the Old Dominion over the Free State."

The Free State. What an odd nickname for a state that taxes its citizens out the wazoo, costing them so much prosperity in the process.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: martinomalley; maryland; md
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1 posted on 06/09/2012 4:29:08 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin
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To: DeaconBenjamin

This fag “governor” was smirking on election night on FNC when he said that somebody was going to “indict” Governor Walker for something. Anybody know how that worked out for him? Did they “indict” a ham sandwich instead or what?


2 posted on 06/09/2012 4:34:59 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Free Stuff or Freedom! You Decide 2012.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Problem becomes how many Maryland Dems flee their LIEberal hades hole state and then metastasize like cancer to Va. and elsewhere still voting for ‘Rats. Cant stand that snarky lil leftist jerk Governor {O’Malady}.


3 posted on 06/09/2012 4:39:07 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Unfortunately they bring their socialist voting habits with them to VA. Liberals are so stupid they vote in what they are fleeing.


4 posted on 06/09/2012 4:39:07 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I saw O’Malley election night too. He had that crazed Howard Dean thing going.


5 posted on 06/09/2012 4:42:30 PM PDT by y6162
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To: DeaconBenjamin

We chose West Virginia. It has been a fine choice.


6 posted on 06/09/2012 4:43:26 PM PDT by alarm rider (I took the pledge, I will never vote for another RINO, not now, not ever.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

“Virginia is now home to nearly 11,500 former Marylanders “

... and people wonder why Va is voting so Dem!

Some learn, but most immigrants want the same as they had before. They think socialism is great and the heavy taxes they left were just coincidental to- not the certain result of- socialism.


7 posted on 06/09/2012 4:44:07 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

we’re good here, thanks.


8 posted on 06/09/2012 4:44:17 PM PDT by ronniesgal ( I miss George Bush. Hell, I miss Bill Clinton!!)
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To: central_va

Amen. That’s what California has been doing to Nevada.


9 posted on 06/09/2012 4:44:56 PM PDT by JoeDetweiler
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To: tflabo; central_va

Sadly that appears to be what’s happening to Texas. Lobotomy for liberal newcomers perhaps?


10 posted on 06/09/2012 4:48:55 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: central_va

Exactly. And the ruin spreads.


11 posted on 06/09/2012 4:52:47 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: Mears

bfl


12 posted on 06/09/2012 4:52:47 PM PDT by Mears
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To: y6162

I thought the way he acted was very childish. The boy needs to grow up. I can’t believe anyone would waste a vote on him.


13 posted on 06/09/2012 4:53:00 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Free Stuff or Freedom! You Decide 2012.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

This fag “governor” was smirking on election night on FNC when he said that somebody was going to “indict” Governor Walker for something. Anybody know how that worked out for him? Did they “indict” a ham sandwich instead or what?


I saw that too...what a smarmy pol.


14 posted on 06/09/2012 4:55:07 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Well I hope it is the conservatives that are leaving otherwise they will only move there and elect more liberals like where they moved from. Where liberals go, they take and elect their own kind with them.


15 posted on 06/09/2012 4:55:23 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (Paul said the world would look like in the last days: See Romans 1: 13-32 for the examples.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

They have been coming here for a while. Northern Virginia is one big nest of moonbats.


16 posted on 06/09/2012 4:59:19 PM PDT by wvguy
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To: central_va
Unfortunately they bring their socialist voting habits with them to VA.

We're soon to be VA residents (western part of the state which is solidly conservative) and are happy to be leaving the People's Republik of PA.

But the liberal trend in the DC metro area is very disturbing. Too many government trough feeders there who vote for the continuance of bloated bureaucracy.

17 posted on 06/09/2012 4:59:44 PM PDT by randita
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To: Grams A
I like the lobotomy idea!!

But maybe before they load up their U Hauls, we could remind them how hot is in Texas.

And the excessive bug population.

And snakes...lots of snakes.

18 posted on 06/09/2012 5:56:40 PM PDT by berdie
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To: DeaconBenjamin
Oh but I wish I could leave Montgomery County and head to Loudon County across the Potomac. Wife will not...she has all her friends and social life here. And she is a scream-at-the-tv conservative like me. But, y'know, the VA-MD animosity has been going on since colonial times, when they fought over the oyster beds in the Potomac.

She just will not leave...

19 posted on 06/09/2012 6:04:26 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: y6162
I saw O’Malley election night too. He had that crazed Howard Dean thing going.

He is crazed. He once said Dubya was a bigger threat to the world that Bin Ladin. He's so in love with himself he believes he'll be president one day, he's very wrong.
20 posted on 06/09/2012 6:07:30 PM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Like most people above I am against having libs moving to my state. OTOH I am a former Mass lib in Virginia. But I reformed before I left Mass mainly by reading Chronicles and similar magazines.


21 posted on 06/09/2012 6:08:51 PM PDT by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

great they F#*KED up their state now they are coming here to F&$K up this one.


22 posted on 06/09/2012 6:12:43 PM PDT by SouthernBoyupNorth ("For my wings are made of Tungsten, my flesh of glass and steel..........")
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To: randita

My birth town ... sad to see if fall but hey, it’s been falling. Maybe Pelosi will go home and run for Mayor.

The Inner Harbor, trashed nightly by gangs of thugs. Driving tourists right outta there.

The Snake Mayor (and yes to whoever posted how obnoxious he was/is/will always be). All he’ll do is redistribute the taxes among those who decide to
stay although about 70% of the City pays no taxes - they are recipients. As they say, Well Hon, we’re in a pickle.


23 posted on 06/09/2012 6:15:57 PM PDT by imemyself
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To: SouthernBoyupNorth

They sorta do that, but what is happening is places like Wisconsin and Mass and New Jersey and Pennsylvania are losing the liberals to Southern states and that is why they are voting in Republican Governors. However the South is getting bluer but the North is getting a bit redder. Same people, just different locations.


24 posted on 06/09/2012 6:30:36 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: FlingWingFlyer

It is funny that you mention a ham sandwich. On our conservative talk station here in the Phoenix area, one of the shows does a segment where they bring up different reasons why Obama could be beaten by a ham sandwich. LOL!!!
I do not here it anymore since I do not commute at that time anymore.


25 posted on 06/09/2012 6:33:25 PM PDT by Stayingawayfromthedarkside
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I know that Fat Ed predicted an indictment of Scott but didn’t know the Gov also did.

Fat Ed is featured in the latest Hitler rant =

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGWfgrn_VyY


26 posted on 06/09/2012 6:42:53 PM PDT by doug from upland (Just in case, it has been reserved: www.TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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To: mrsmith
Virginia has a Republican House, a Republican Senate, a Republican Governor, a Republican Lt. Governor, a Republican Attorney General, a majority of the members of the US House from Virginia are Republican.

So, mrsmith, why is it Virginia is voting so Democrat?

Is that perhaps because we had a one party state since 1876?

27 posted on 06/09/2012 6:49:59 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Having been a resident of Arlington VA for many years, I feel pretty superior to the idiot Marylanders. 8 times out of 10, whenever I see a driver around here do something idiotic, his car has a Maryland plate.


28 posted on 06/09/2012 7:11:06 PM PDT by Poundstone (A recent Federal retiree and proud of it!)
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To: central_va

Massholes did that to New Hampshire a few years ago, IIRC.


29 posted on 06/09/2012 7:11:51 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: SouthernBoyupNorth

They did it to south and middle Floriduh, too.


30 posted on 06/09/2012 7:14:34 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Great. More Maryland Marxists polluting my future adopted home state of Virginia. No wonder it is turning purple so quickly.

Tennessee here I come, I guess. Virginia will be liberal by the time I retire.


31 posted on 06/09/2012 7:26:04 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: doug from upland

What hit my “hot button” is that he smirked when he said “indicted” as though it was a sure thing. It was if he was trying to say, “I’m going to mess up the party”. It was disgusting and very childish.


32 posted on 06/09/2012 7:45:16 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Free Stuff or Freedom! You Decide 2012.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin; Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; ...

Maryland “Freak State” PING!


33 posted on 06/09/2012 8:19:39 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: berdie

Don’t forget hurricanes. As was evidenced in NOLA in 2005, government dependents don’t fare well in hurricanes, so maybe they should stay in Kalifornia, Murderland, etc.


34 posted on 06/09/2012 8:32:17 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: DeaconBenjamin; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; ..

This is a very well written editorial about my home state under Dems.

Maybe this is why I was so supportive of Walker all along, he is the anti-O Malley. He is the polar opposite of him.


35 posted on 06/09/2012 8:34:48 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Northern Va. is a lost cause.


36 posted on 06/09/2012 8:40:54 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: randita

Loudoun Co. is a fine place to call home.


37 posted on 06/09/2012 8:42:48 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: rabidralph
We left Maryland for Utah several weeks ago. We never held liberal views and (finally) decided we had enough of the liberal mess, Maryland ( THE Freak state). If you only knew of all the true insanity in Maryland...both by the moron lib politicians and by the majority of voters (who are asshats). Life is too short to be around those mental defectives.
38 posted on 06/09/2012 8:59:12 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: central_va

I know someone who sneaked out of a socialist state in the 50s. Now he wants obama to make America a socialist state. I don’t understand why he left.

I know a nurse who came here from England because of the low pay and low status nurses receive. Now he works as a nurse here in the U.S. and he’s for obamacare. Nothing makes sense when you’re dealing with a liberal. Oh, yeah. His wife complains because the hospital where they work apparently doesn’t offer a free retirement plan. They have to pay for it themselves. boo hoo And they worship obama!


39 posted on 06/10/2012 1:07:02 AM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." Peter Griffin - FAMILY GUY)
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To: berdie

And alligator gar! And lots of killer bees! They’re everywhere, I tell ya’!


40 posted on 06/10/2012 1:14:06 AM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." Peter Griffin - FAMILY GUY)
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To: DeaconBenjamin
We got ‘em here in York County Pa, they come up here to an agricultural area to avoid taxes and crime but bring their urban liberal tax-a-plenty attitudes and crime kids with them.

M-land can keep them.

41 posted on 06/10/2012 1:46:07 AM PDT by this_ol_patriot
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Maryland is 30% black, 4% “undocumented” alien — it will not elect a conservative Republican any time soon.


42 posted on 06/10/2012 4:21:08 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: Terry Mross
I know a nurse who came here from England because of the low pay and low status nurses receive. Now he works as a nurse here in the U.S. and he’s for obamacare. Nothing makes sense when you’re dealing with a liberal.

A defining characteristic of a Leftist is that he has this dream where he can vote for it to rain skittles, and has no interest in thinking through the consequences and side-effects.

43 posted on 06/10/2012 4:25:54 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: rabidralph

So is Fairfax, but you have to have a solid 6 figure income to afford a decent single family home.

Relatives are looking to buy in the area. $500,000 gets you a 3 BR home, maybe 50-60 years old, decent condition, not always with a basement, maybe a one car garage, on a 1/4 acre lot.

Even during the housing collapse, homes there held their value fairly well compared to the rest of the country.


44 posted on 06/10/2012 5:56:13 AM PDT by randita
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Tennessee is seeing our share of American ‘foreigners’ too due to all the new corporations bringing jobs here (Amazon, Wacker, Volkswagon, etc.). I see tags from all over and told my husband the other day that I hope they don’t bring their junk politics with them.


45 posted on 06/10/2012 6:02:16 AM PDT by Melinda in TN
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To: randita
Even during the housing collapse, homes there held their value fairly well compared to the rest of the country.

It says alot about the current economic unpleasantness that DC (where the federal government lives) is the one place in the country where the housing market is untouched

46 posted on 06/10/2012 6:02:42 AM PDT by Cowman (How can the IRS seize property without a warrant if the 4th amendment still stands?)
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To: rabidralph

“Northern Va. is a lost cause.”

Maybe so. If you’re honest about Virginia, you realize that Virginia has benefited, fiscally, from it’s proximity to DC. Northern VA, particularly so.

With coming DoD and Federal government cutbacks (they are coming, as hopeless as it seems now) you will have a sea-change in Northern VA.

The exodus is likely to reverse itself, for a brief time, with Maryland as former gov’t folks seek free stuff and bennies.

Maybe, just maybe N. Va will be able to be rehabilitated, at least a little bit.


47 posted on 06/10/2012 6:05:00 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Man, this blows. I’m a few months out from moving to Maryland (PCS to Fort Meade). I’m in NY now, and it looks like I’m just bouncing from one People’s Republic to another.


48 posted on 06/10/2012 6:09:42 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: RFEngineer

The sea-change begins when Moran loses his job. If jobs are the issue, the exodus may not reverse. I grew up in Maryland and throughout all my job-hunting years, the jobs I always wanted were in Virginia. After awhile, the commutes weren’t worth it.


49 posted on 06/10/2012 7:16:49 AM PDT by rabidralph
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To: randita

The DC area is recession-proof. That’s why the politicians and most residents continue to vote for spending and spenders. They don’t see what’s going on in the rest of the country.


50 posted on 06/10/2012 7:20:35 AM PDT by rabidralph
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