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What's with Wisconsin?
Chicago Tribune ^ | 10 june 2012 | Clarence Page

Posted on 06/10/2012 7:08:48 AM PDT by rellimpank

Let's give Wisconsin voters some credit. While others try to find easy right-versus-left explanations for Gov. Scott Walker's decisive victory last week, Badger State voters appeared to be more worried about their state's purse.

Their fiscal anxiety reflects a national trend. During the 1990s economic boom, state and local governments awarded generous health and pension benefits to union workers. Now the pensions and benefits are being paid from shrinking revenues in a sluggish economy. The result is a fiscal crisis in cities and states with deepening deficits and threats to public services, ranging from police and firefighters to parks and libraries.

Walker stands out among deficit-cutters only in his audacity, fortified famously by the billionaire industrialist brothers David and Charles Koch. The Kochs helped Walker get elected and become a national star among ultraconservatives opposed to unions.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: illinois; page; walker; wisconsin; wisconsinshowdown
--Clarence Page usually deserves a barf alert--not this time--
1 posted on 06/10/2012 7:08:54 AM PDT by rellimpank
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To: rellimpank
right-versus-left

No.

Ordinary Americans versus the union leftists.

2 posted on 06/10/2012 7:11:11 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: rellimpank

Even reliable lefties like Page are coming to grips with reality.


3 posted on 06/10/2012 7:16:18 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: rellimpank

“fortified famously by the billionaire industrialist brothers David and Charles Koch”

The author started out so well with his explanations of Wisconsin’s economy and Walker’s win.. until he made this statement..

“fortified famously by the billionaire industrialist brothers David and Charles Koch”

After that, I didn’t bother reading the rest.


4 posted on 06/10/2012 7:17:31 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Bigh4u2

Don’t know how that quote posted twice since I only copied it once.. after my statement...not before..

????


5 posted on 06/10/2012 7:18:57 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

—ping—


6 posted on 06/10/2012 7:19:36 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: rellimpank

During the 1990s economic boom, state and local governments awarded generous health and pension benefits to union workers. Now the pensions and benefits are being paid from shrinking revenues in a sluggish economy. The result is a fiscal crisis in cities and states with deepening deficits and threats to public services, ranging from police and firefighters to parks and libraries.

Sorry Clarence. Those pensions were unstainable in any kind of economy. This day was going to come eventually; the recession just hastened its’ arrival.


7 posted on 06/10/2012 7:22:20 AM PDT by csmusaret (I will give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.)
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To: Bigh4u2

Excessive orange ions floating aimlessly in the atmosphere is to blame. Trust me.


8 posted on 06/10/2012 7:28:10 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (This tagline for rent. Contact GeorgiaDawg32 for pricing and excellent financing options.)
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To: Bigh4u2

I stopped reading at Clarence.


9 posted on 06/10/2012 7:32:44 AM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: Bigh4u2
Yes, Clarence did the usual genuflection to the Liberal Progressives. He has hit all the Liberal/Progressive talking points. He's blamed it on outside money, the Koches, and said the Republicans are trying to kill the unions. Clarence has drunk heavily from biased well.

What he doesn't understand is that Wisconsin did not appreciate being threatened by the Union Thugs. They did not like to see the senior citizens carted around from polling place to polling place (time and time again). They did not like their democratic leaders partying unseemly in Illinois.

Clarence is right that the folks wanted their state governments finanaces to be put back in order. But Clarence has to drive away all his Republican and Independent readers with this Liberal/Progressive invective.

The Mainstream media just can't help themselves but to do this. And they don't realize they are driving Obama further to the left and over the cliff.

10 posted on 06/10/2012 7:38:46 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: rellimpank
...voters appeared to be more worried about their state's purse.

He's right. (Oh, look! My clock is stopped too!)

America is worried about medium to long term solvency.

The GOP is leading on this issue and the 'Rats are in denial.

This is why the 'Rats will be swept out in November.

11 posted on 06/10/2012 7:38:50 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Bigh4u2
After that, I didn’t bother reading the rest.

The you missed this jewel:

"The Kochs helped Walker get elected and become a national star among ultraconservatives opposed to unions."

What exactly is an ultraconservative?

12 posted on 06/10/2012 7:40:36 AM PDT by houeto (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: rellimpank

I stopped as soon as I saw the author was Clarence Page - big time leftie and supporter of The One. Not worth my time to read his trash.


13 posted on 06/10/2012 7:46:25 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: houeto

“What exactly is an ultraconservative?”

You know...That’s us conservative people that believe what the Constitution says and wants everyone else, including liberals, to live by it..

A ‘Conservative’ in their minds, is someone who is ‘flexible’ like McCain.


14 posted on 06/10/2012 7:47:23 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

I thought it was the green ones...

:0)


15 posted on 06/10/2012 7:49:16 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: rellimpank
The LDPC Community (Lib/Dem/Progressive/Commie) must continue to spin the Wisconsin result into something that keeps their heads from exploding.

In the meantime they will be ignoring the approach of an electoral earthquake.

I believe Wisconsin is reminiscent of the loss of Ted Kennedy's seat in ultra liberal Mass. It was a local election that had national implications.

The shock wave that followed the Mass. upset, was the House of Reps swing back to Repubs.

Hopefully history is repeating itself and Wisconsin is the pre-quake alert. In November the ground will crumble under President BO and his foolish destructive hold on America will end.

16 posted on 06/10/2012 7:50:44 AM PDT by Awgie (truth is always stranger than fiction)
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To: rellimpank

President Walker exposed the organized crime scam of Democrats and unions turning taxpayers into a never empty ATM.

Romney should unleash the FBI and IRS on unions leaders. Right....


17 posted on 06/10/2012 8:05:33 AM PDT by y6162
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To: rellimpank

People see the choice between...

1) Fiscal responsibility, treating all workers fairly, and sustainability, and

2) Budget blowouts, giving elevated benefits to unions, and bankruptcy.

The Democrats rely on people being too stupid to figure this out.


18 posted on 06/10/2012 8:05:49 AM PDT by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the White House)
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To: rellimpank
All these Dems suddenly worried about campaign donors were unusually quiet when Obama was getting enormous amounts of mysterious money from ??????
19 posted on 06/10/2012 8:11:07 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: rellimpank
While others try to find easy right-versus-left explanations for Gov. Scott Walker's decisive victory last week, Badger State voters appeared to be more worried about their state's purse.


20 posted on 06/10/2012 8:12:38 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (The)
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To: Bigh4u2
I thought I read Kochs put in $1 million for Walker in the recall.

How does that compare to the $21 million by unions?

21 posted on 06/10/2012 8:22:43 AM PDT by mountn man (Happiness is not a destination, its a way of life.)
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To: Bigh4u2
Well, then you missed this little lie;

"...Walker moved shortly after he took office last year to strip public employees of their collective bargaining rights."

I have found it real easy to identify the liberal leftist media when they make this statement. Walker limited collective bargaining to pay only. Leftist will claim Walker took all collective bargaining away, a distortion of the truth and a lie.

22 posted on 06/10/2012 8:24:16 AM PDT by Traveler59 ( Truth is a journey, not a destination.)
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To: rellimpank

Mr. Page makes a lot of sense for about 90% of this column. The other 10% is where he inexplicably segues off into goofball land. I guess he can’t help himself after all these years.


23 posted on 06/10/2012 8:30:22 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: houeto
What exactly is an ultraconservative?

An "ultraconservative" is somebody who not just really, but really really REALLY, believes in limited, Constitutional government.
Hope that helps.

24 posted on 06/10/2012 8:41:31 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: rellimpank
What is up with the leftwing obsession with the Koch brothers? They are simply industrialists, people who create jobs, and they give out some campaign money. Isn't that okay, like when Soros or Buffett gives to the left?

Or is it only evil when Republicans do it?

25 posted on 06/10/2012 9:09:45 AM PDT by Lazamataz (People who resort to Godwin's Law are just like Hitler.)
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To: Travis McGee

I bet the self-loathing is palpable ;-)


26 posted on 06/10/2012 9:26:04 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: sr4402

Nail on the head.... strikes home.


27 posted on 06/10/2012 9:26:30 AM PDT by Invictus (Get used to living in the USSA (ununited socialist states of america))
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To: rellimpank

Good column by a liberal who has the courage to look at reality and write about it pretty fairly. Thank you Mr. Page..(Never thought I would say THAT!)


28 posted on 06/10/2012 10:36:34 AM PDT by Shady (The undeniable truth of the Obama Administration...The numbers do not lie.)
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To: rellimpank
"...a national star among ultraconservatives..."

Now there's an oldie but a goodie. I haven't heard that scare-mongering term in too long a time to remember.

Interesting how the author makes the sensible and all-too-realistic argument that voters are struggling in this economy, and that they're voting to tighten the purse strings on their state and local governments.

True, true, but he then fails to point out that those same voters voted to retain their ultraconservative Governor in the recall election, giving him a winning edge over his Democrat opponent which was even greater than the margin Walker beat him by last time.

So Clarence, is that perhaps telling you anything about Wisconsin voters???

29 posted on 06/10/2012 9:07:45 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

I’ll bet that that one cartoon went viral across the net, and was responsible for raising the awareness of thousands upon thousands of people.

It needs to keep on circulating. It says it all.


30 posted on 06/10/2012 9:16:08 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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