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To: RedMonqey
It sure ain't your father's educational system anymore
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At first, Obamacare won't be that bad. The reason will be due to the values and ethics of those who were trained in the old system of private health care. It will take a generation or two for the full horror of socialist-entitlement and single payer health care to manifest itself.

Well...Modern Government compulsory education ( enacted into law in the mid1800s to early 1900s) has **always** been a socialist-entitlement and single payer system. It just didn't seem that bad due to the values of those running it. For example, my father ( born 1913) lived in the same household with his grandmother and grandfather who served in the Civil War. Even into the 1960s the teachers staffing the government socialist-entitlment schools carried with them the values and morals of the pioneers who tamed the land and immigrants who built this country.

My father retired from his job in 1978. It does seem that the moral and ethical environment within the government socialist-entitlement schools began to deteriorate when those of his generation began retiring in the 1960s and 70s.

By the way, my dad died when he was 96. He was 41% as old as our nation when he died. He lived almost half as long as our nation has been in existence.

40 posted on 06/10/2012 6:13:27 PM PDT by wintertime (Reforming a government K-12 school is like reforming an abortion mill.)
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41 posted on 06/10/2012 7:49:40 PM PDT by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: wintertime
I agree with everything but I will add this:

Before there was a “Department of Education,” A Teachers Union and “tenure” and education was a local affair, teachers were picked from the local population and most likely attended the same church.

People knew the morals(or lack thereof) these teachers and were quick to rid themselves of unfit teachers.

An example:
I had a couple of harsh(my opinion at the time) teachers whom we called “the old dragons.” Nobody wanted to be in their class because they were very big on disciple and quick with the paddle.

One day my grandmother took me visiting to her friends as she often did when to my horror, Mrs Win opened the door. Little did I know my grandmother knew them all. Quiet as a church mouse I entered and discovered "the dragon" didn't breathe fire and have fangs of iron but was the nicest, kindest lady who chatted, made jokes and offered us cookies(homemade of course).

I was flabbergasted!
This couldn't be the same mean old woman in the classroom and the terror of all fifth graders..

But she and the rest of the “dragons” were kindly old grandmothers and I got to know them better in the years to follow. They were the best of their generation and took their job seriously. They weren't bottomfeeders looking for a cushy job with good 'benies" and the summers off. Like most things in life, I didn't know how good I had it until it was gone.

44 posted on 06/13/2012 9:00:11 AM PDT by RedMonqey (Men who will not suffer to self govern, will suffer under the governance of lesser men.)
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