Skip to comments.BARBER: Christians should vote for Romney
Posted on 06/11/2012 7:24:16 AM PDT by jimluke01
Its no secret that I have been and remain a vocal critic of Mitt Romney. To say that his conservative bona fides are suspect is an understatement. I have tremendous respect for a number of fellow evangelical Christians who say that they will not support his presidential candidacy. I expect I will anger some of them, and may even lose a few friends. Still, in November, I am voting for Mr. Romney and suggest that any Christian - Republican, Democrat or independent - should do the same.
Jesus admonished: Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents and harmless as doves. (Matthew 10:16). It is through this biblical prism that I shine my multicolored analysis.
President Obama is a wolf. Though he purports to be Christian, his policies are decidedly un-Christian. This man eagerly advances a culture of death. He is the most radically pro-abortion president in American history. He has dutifully signed off on - and implemented at each opportunity - every extremist demand of the radical pro-abortion and homosexual activist lobbies.
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Doesn’t anger me. People can do what they want. But this Christian isn’t taking her guidance from Matt Barber.
To what degree could this be considered ‘reverse psychology’?
Christians should do what they believe is right.
BTW when do we get around to pushing Mitty to the right?
Article left out the proper barf alert.
Pray for peace, prepare for war.
No one has to take orders from anyone, except their God. As for me, I am in the same mindset as the writer. Obama appointing two more justices to SCOTUS is an unconscienable concept to me, and I will not in any way be complicit in helping the BIG ZERO get reelected.
So, I will vote for Romney. I will pray for Romney. I will continue to express my conservative opinions whenever and whereever I see it is appropriate to do so. Working with the folks in the Tea Party will help to keep the focus on the US Constitution, the economy,our eroding culture.
Beyond that, we must put our trust in the Lord.
I will pass on both of the socialist twins, and vote conservative. Sadly the most conservative candidate on the ballot is Virgil Goode.
God will not hold me accountable for who wins the next election. God will hold me accountable for what sort of person I voted for and how much effort I put into knowing who stood for what, by their actions more so than their words.
Romney isn't a possibility.
In all due respect, Mr. Barber, Christians are well able to do their own thinking.
Pulling out one or two Bible verses in an attempt to give your opinions credibility can be dangerous; I can find any number of Bible verses or parables to support an opposing argument.
Still, most of us know full well the stakes in this coming election, and what another four years of 0 will do to us. I suspect people will vote accordingly.
Choosing between the wolf and the serpent is not a good choice.
You have to vote for him to see what’s in him.
I agree. Christians fall off the wagon all the time and repent for their sins..
However, I see this one coming from a mile away. Not sure I could explain “ya, he was a baby killer and supported gay marriage and so did the other guy. So I voted for him” well enough to get through the gates of heaven.
No thanks Mitt.
After seeing the Romney court picks and how he made things even worse in Mass with his choices for the board that picks judges, I will pass on him as a savior for the SC.
The Lord put his trust in you!!!!!!! Prayer or just praying does not just fulfill the wish that the Lord put in us because faith without works will never accomplish anything. Good for you realizing that Romney is our only chance to rid America of the devil.
The guy sounds like a closet Romney fan to me. It’s pitiful that he feels the need to apologize for his beliefs, but that seems to be increasingly common for Romney supporters.
Isn’t that why he’ll lose?
Sorry. Still no sale.
I consider it a sin to support any candidate that is pro-choice. As such, I will not be supporting either Obama or Romney.
It’s not your call as to who gets the vote of Christians. Pound sand.
The election will come down to whether the group who would not vote for McCain for not being conservative is larger or smaller than the group who will not vote for Romney for neither being conservative, nor pro-life. The disillusioned over Obama will figure in some as well. Some of these Liberals may see hope in Romney.
Not this Christian, I don’t vote for pro abortion pro homosexual anyone.
I choked back my bile and wasted my vote on McCain. I’m not doing that again.
Only whining, sniveling cowards obsessed with their hedonistic creature comforts would be too stupid to at least recognize and list more choices than those two.
Pray for peace, prepare for war.
I agree wholeheartedly.
I think that’s a pretty good analysis. I voted for McCain four years ago because he picked Palin. This time it doesn’t matter who the running mate is because the nominee is a bridge too far.
Who is Matt Barber and what is his spiritual maturity that he should advise what Christians should do?
As for my vote, I have not committed to anyone yet. I’m looking for a candidate who has similar values to mine and has the courage to withstand the slings and arrows of their adversity. The two front runners do not fit the first criteria.
Sorry, not interested in listening to someone twist the Bible in knots and selectively select passages to help support a LYING, left-wing, Progressive Liberal like Mitt Romney.
I’ve never read the “Lessor of two evils” idea presented in the Bible. Maybe someone else can help me with this?
All I have to say to my evangelical brethren and everyone else is look at Obama and look at Romney. Come November, those are the only two choices that are going to matter. Muslim or Mormon, half-wit, or intelligent, someone who isn’t American at the core, or someone who thinks America is the establishment, Communist, or establishment Republican. I don’t have any tingles running up and down my leg, and the choice isn’t a joyful one, but under no circumstances do I choose an anti-American, half-witted, Muslim Communist. You can spend all day long digging up every bit of dirt there is against Romney, and I have, but it pales in comparison to the garbage Obama is, and to the damage Obama is doing to this country.
My choice will be a conservative.
Everyone should vote for my choice when I have one.
I .however, would never stoop to bringing religion into a partisan political race. Christians and people of other Judeo Christian faiths, should examine their beliefs and vote accordingly.
Matt Barber thinks too highly of his opinions and should be much more careful when he tosses out Scripture (speaks for God) to prove his opinions.
Didn’t come close to changing my decision for November.
Great info - thanks
That is your right. A Christian must decide whether Hope for Change economically overrides voting for one of the two proven wrong on moral issues. There is going to be some portion of the Christian base who will choose conscience over collaboration.
Lots of conservatives will see it the way you do; that’s absolutely your choice. I would say to look at Romney’s judicial appointments in MA, which were largely liberal Democrats.
Agree with you about putting our trust in the Lord. I’ve had numerous conversations with Him about whether I should vote for an abortion-enabler and homosexual lover, and I trust He’s been telling me no, all along. Your mileage may vary.
Matt Barber is believing the common fallacy that he must vote for one of the evils.
No thanks to both of them.
“I will not create jobs or hold jobs that kill people, and that plant, that (coal) plant kills people”......
Ditto. Yes, Romney is a Republican in name only, and a "Christian" in name only (IMHO as a fundamental Bible-believer). BUT I am going to say again:
It is about this inescapable fact, plain and simple:
1. Vote for The Marxist who is already entrenched
2. Vote for the NON-Marxist that might win
This is a WAR, not an ELECTION!
Fight for the wrong flag and you die! Stars or Sickle?
Those are the only effective choices that God (who is in control) has left us. Anything else is bluster, like breaking wind in a tornado. Have you got a better idea?
(And now, get busy on transforming Congress and state governments through the choice of a vice president and the platform -- )
“you have to vote for him to see what’s in him”
That is the funniest line I have heard in months!!! GREAT humor still
Thanks. This is a keeper.
But isnt it outrageously hypocritical of you to now be trying to drag conscientious Christians kicking and screaming into the Romney slime pit, when just a few months ago, you yourself were preaching what great evils would come from such a vote:
Liberty Counsel Action Vice President Matt Barber said Romneys appointments were constitutional living document poster children.
Many of Romneys appointments were not only liberal, not only Democrats, but were radical counter-constitutionalists. How on earth can we expect that, as president, he would be any different? Barber asked rhetorically.
Actions speak louder than words, and Mitt Romneys actions as governor scream from the rooftops that he cannot be trusted with this most important of presidential responsibilities.
Barber cites two specific examples of Romneys radical appointments.
As governor of Massachusetts, Mitt Romney not only failed in this regard, he appointed a number of very liberal, if not radical, living, breathing-minded judges to the bench, Barber said.
Two that come to mind were extreme homosexualists Marianne C. Hinkle and Stephen Abany, he said. They both had a long history of pro-gay activism, yet Romney didnt hesitate to put them on the bench.
These are people who outrageously believe the postmodern notion that newfangled gay rights trump our constitutionally guaranteed First Amendment rights, he said.
Available at http://www.wnd.com/2012/01/romney-judicial-record-liberals-running-wild/
And your use of Scripture to support this betrayal of principle is laughable.
First, you posit this passage as justification for what amounts to a consequentialist ethical decision:
Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents and harmless as doves." (Matthew 10:16).
You say Obama is a wolf, and you are right. But we should only guard against one wolf? And expose ourselves to other wolves of like propensities and equal dangers? Or we could say, that from a Christian perspective, Romney represents a greater threat than Obama. Obama wants to advance a failed economic theory called Marxism and thus destroy our constitution and our country. Very bad.
But Romney is under an oath to his Church to advance the soul-destroying falsehoods of Mormonism. Which is worse, Matt? A beat up country that can and will recover if we humbly seek Gods blessing, or the eternal loss of human souls, AND the destruction of the country and its constitution thrown in as a bonus?
In Scripture, whom did Christ and the Apostles designate as wolves. Politicians? Or was it those who try to bring false teaching into the church? What did Jesus say?
Mat 7:15-16 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
And who are these wolves? Are they evil pols doing terrible public policy? No, they are alien predators trying to blend in with the sheep, trying to make themselves look like severely conservative Christians.
But wait you say, look at their fruit? Surely Obamas fruit is worse than Romneys. Really? Matt, I was working as an intern for LC when Romney was governor. You have to know what was going on in MA with Christian health workers getting backed into a corner over abortion, by the Romney administration. They called us, but we couldnt help them. To this day I still dont know why, other than that we didnt have the resources, or couldnt see how to win, or both.
But Romney has fruit, and it aint good. You know the record. Youve preached on how bad the record was. And now you want to throw that down the memory hole.
But lets get back to wolves. What did Paul say about these wolves, Matt?
Acts 20:29-30 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.
Was Paul worried about pagan kings doing nasty things? Obey the king. Pray for the king. Maybe God will save him. No, Paul was worried about people who tried to look like Christians, gaining the confidence of Christians, and drawing to themselves disciples away from the truth of the Gospel, by perversion of the truth, by rejecting the truth of the very Scriptures Paul was then delivering to the church.
And which of our only two choices fits that description best? Tough call. Obamas Black Liberation Theology is a perversion of the Gospel that glorifies man and not God, and Mormonism is a perversion of the Gospel that makes God into a man and man into a god. Damned if you do and damned if you dont. Literally.
My dad always used to say, if you want to know what someone is going to do, look at what theyve done. You say you want to trust the word of Captain Etch-a-Sketch, despite his proven tendency to run roughshod over the truth, both in terms of his own positions and the positions and reputations of his opponents. Is it really being "wise as a serpent" to ignore signals that he cannot be trusted, as you yourself earlier had preached to us? Or is it a fool's game to trust the wolf trying to hide in sheep's clothing?
You say, Some might say I'm putting pragmatism over principle, and Id agree with you on that point. Look at your own reasoning. You posit three realistic (i.e., pragmatic) choices. Vote Romney, vote Obama, or dont vote. Thats flawed to begin with. There are other, better choices, and you are in effect voting against them by directing us to vote for one of the greater evils.
But the true masterstroke of your "pragmatism" is your claim to omniscience. You say we wont survive a second Obama term. Are you sure? Did God tell you this? Whatever happened to faith in the living God? Only God knows whether we would or should survive an attempted Marxist coup. We both know we dont deserve it as a nation. We murder our unborn and teach our children all manner of perversity. We make all our choices based on craven fear over the latest manufactured crisis rather than a steady faith in the power of God. Why should God help us?
But we know that IF God is for us, no one can be against us. Yes, that has a primarily spiritual meaning. But God has the power to help us nationally as well. We are at his mercy. And you are encouraging us, as believers, to forsake that faith and trust instead in the arm of flesh, and not just any arm, but the arm of a man whos religion is a variant of the same Gnosticism about which John warned in 2 John 1:10-11, that it is antichrist in nature, and that lending it any support, no matter how small, makes us partakers of its evil?
So pragmatically, since there is a God, and he does tell us just what to do under conditions such as these, isnt the really practical decision to stay in a place where we may expect to receive his blessing, to do the right thing as Christians and trust him for the outcome?
In the end, there arent just three choices. There are as many choices as God says there are. Our backs are up against the Red Sea, to be sure, but God exists, and He cares for us, and He can make a way where there was none before.
Do the right thing, Matt.