Skip to comments.Jeb Bush Says His Father and Reagan Would Lose Out in Today’s GOP
Posted on 06/11/2012 11:08:17 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush today said that both Ronald Reagan and his father, George H.W. Bush, would have a hard time getting nominated by the more conservative voters in todays Republican Party.
Ronald Reagan would have, based on his record of finding accommodation, finding some degree of common ground, as would my dad, they would have a hard time if you define the Republican party, and I dont, as having an orthodoxy that doesnt allow for disagreement, doesnt allow for finding some common ground, Bush said, according to Buzzfeed, which reported Bushs giving the comments at the headquarters of Bloomberg LP in New York City.
Bush, a much-discussed contender to be Mitt Romneys running mate, said he sees the ultra-conservative and partisan standards of todays GOP as disturbing, but called this dysfunction temporary.
Its just a different environment left and right, Bush said.
During his dads time and Ronald Reagans time, Bush said, they got a lot of stuff done with a lot of bipartisan support, according to the report, adding that Reagan would be criticized for doing the things that he did.
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Hey, Jeb, don’t you dare put your father in the same category as Reagan. Your father couldn’t polish Reagan’s shoes.
Please, keep out ‘da Bushes!
Going to Jeb for anything, really has to end.
Reagan would be a Tea Party darling. He is their PERFECT candidate
BTW, Last week, in his show, Mark Levin BLASTED Bush for these comments
He needs to just go away.
BTW Jebby Reagan wouldn’t have a problem, but your daddy would, OTOH people like your daddy and the rest of the GOPE never liked Reagan.
This guy’s just all over the media these days, isn’t he?
Jeb’s probably right about GHWB, since he got elected by fortune of being Ronald Reagan’s VP. But he is dead wrong about Reagan. If not for term limits and Alzheimer’s, Reagan would have been a 4-term president.
Sad Jeb is apparently too dense to know the difference.
FIrst reason, the Democrats will not do anything at all without raising taxes or spending more money.
There is no compromise available, not that any Republicans should be anxious to try it, but the Democrats just do not do compromise!
What happend to this man? He’s speaking like that McCain girl.
Jeb Bush is full of crap.
And since Reagan signed an amnesty law, they think that he would be rejected nowadays.
However, Reagan did not have past experience when he signed that law, and instead of making things better, it made things worse.
Reagan showed in his history that he learned from his mistakes.
Whereas the Bush clan demands such mistakes be repeated.
This is the second thread, but it allows us a second chance to acknowledge Jeb is an idiot.
Don’t you just love it when RINOs try to explain Conservative matters to you.
Carter, Clinton, the Bushes, folks please shut up. Better to let us just think you’re an idiot, than to open your mouth and prove it.
Then why is he plugging Rubio? The Tea Party helped get Rubio elected.
More trashing of Conservatives and The T.E.A Party by an elitist RINO Republican.
Jeb is a one issue guy and the issue isn’t “compromise”. He thinks it is his sacred duty to keep American borders open to whoever thew hell wants to cross them because he sleeps with a woman with dark skin. It really is despicable for him to deny lower and middle class Americans opportunities at jobs because of the tone of his wifes skin but that’s what he supports.
Jeb’s father rode Ronald Reagan’s coattails. Bush would never have been President if not for Ronald Reagan. Bush probably threatened Ronald Reagan (prior to election)to gain the vp job. After President Reagan was elected, Bush was probably on the level of a knat. A distraction and nothing more. Of course there was the assassination attempt. Was there a conspiracy?
No more Bushes.
Either way, how disgracegul.. He should do what his brother does, go away and shut up!
That’s really it, isn’t it?
Why are we not seeing Democrats saying that nothing can be done because the Democrats are unwilling to compromise?
Instead, buffoons from the right make these statements... playing right into the media narrative that it’s the political right that has a problem.
And yet, Mitt Romney is the presumptive nominee. Hardly makes your argument....
At $16 trillion dollars of national debt, there is no time for common ground!
The only way Reagan would “lose out” in today’s GOP is because the Rove/Bush/GOP-e crowd would be backstabbing him and smearing him to their media buddies left and right. Reagan certainly had it rough enough in 1980, but if he were around now, he’d get the Palin-style treatment of big-time movie productions portraying him as mentally ill, books portraying him as a moral degenerate, and a media accusing him of inciting murder rampages.
Based on the postings on this thread I have to agree with Jeb Bush,
too many FR people have gone off the deep end , the place is looking more and more like DU
If Reagan was on here some people would rip the hell out of him
You doubt me?
“Ronald Reagan Gives Full Support tp Romney”
You know you would read this if Reagan was alive ....and how many Freepers would be howling?
That is what Jeb is talking about
“Bush, a much-discussed contender to be Mitt Romneys running mate, said he sees the ultra-conservative and partisan standards of todays GOP as disturbing, but called this dysfunction temporary.
You betcha, if the GOP continues to diss the TEA party, it will indeed become a ‘temporary dysfunction.’ The e-GOP is very close to going the way of the Whigs. The e-GOP might as well give up the charade and show themselves to be the big government liberals that they are. I despise them.
Yes, but for different reasons, but I don’t hink it is true of Reagon.
But let’s hope we have had our fill of Bush’s....
Reagan would not make it with the GOP power heads of today. Today’s GOP is far from grand and is one and the same as the RATS. The question should be could Reagan be elected by the US citizens and the answer is a resounding YES.
Bush41 was throwback to the days of the big government Republicans and there wasn't a dimes worth of difference between him and Clinton.
Methinks Jeb s "sour-graping" after deciding that he SHOULD have run for president (and would have lost in all the primaries!).
Knowing what we know about his dad, he is correct - we would NOT be clamoring for Bush 41 (the moderate) to run, just as CONSERVATIVES are NOT clamoring for Mittens to be nominated.
HOWEVER . . . . . . . the same is NOT true about Reagan. Reagan was a true conservative (thus the reason that so many of us would crawl across broken glass to vote for another Reagan!) and IS the type of candidate that we conservatives want. IMO, the only part of the statement that Jeb got partly right was that "the GOP" wouldn't want either Bush 41 or Reagan. The e-GOP would want Bush 41, the moderate, but wouldn't want Reagan (too conservative!). CONSERVATIVES wouldn't want Bush 41 (too moderate) and would want Reagan (are you paying attention Mittens and e-GOP?).
So, it boils down to what the meaning of "is" is. Is Jeb talking about the e-GOP (yes!) or is he talking about conservatives (former GOP)??
I was not in favor of the 1986 Amnesty. That being said, it did seek to address what was considered to be one million illegals that had accumulated over the prior thirty years.
Reagan was assured there were only about one million illegals in country when he pondered this bill. Eisenhower was president the last time immigration issues were addressed. That would mean that only about 33,000 or so illegals had been coming over the border each year.
Even so, Reagan viewed this as a problem that needed to be addressed. He did sign on to legalize one million illegals, but he also saw to it that new stiff sanctions were place on private businesses, that hired illegals. There were other preventative measures implemented as well.
What Reagan couldn’t control, was the enforcement future presidents would follow through with. After Reagan, our presidents essentially turned a blind eye to illegal immigration. Starting with the Elder Bush, he Clinton, Bush, and Obama have turned a blind eye to illegal immigration. Bush the ignorant (2), actually ran on a platform of Amnesty.
Reagan’s amnesty resulted in 3.5 million people being naturalized. He was clearly lied to, about the true magnitude of illegals in the nation. Today they say we have 10 million. They’ve been saying that since shortly after 2000, when we had nine million in country.
If we legalize today, we’ll have between 20 and 35 million illegal immigrants line up to official change the makeup of this nation forever.
I’m a little tired of watching Reagan get any of the blame for what is taking place with regard to illegal immigration. We knew what the arrests were in the early 90s. We knew the implications. We knew we were being over-run. Many of us were furious about it.
Rezgan didn’t sign on to this. There is no way Ronald Reagan would have stood by and watched our nation flooded with the citizens of other nations, illegally.
When Bush ran for office in 2000, he ran on a platform of amnesty (in part). When he did that, the number of illegals exploded, with our IRS capturing over 900,000 illegals in just nine months. Traditionally, the IRS acknowledges that it only stops only 10 to 20% of the flow. The dire implications of that, were crystal clear. Did our presidents do anything about it? Essentially no.
Going back to Reagan to discuss this matter, is evidence of a major jump over absolutely traitorous people who came along after him.
Reagan did his best to plug a small hole, and those who came along behind him did their best to unplug every bigger holes. They did it for political gain. I consider that criminal in nature. There’s a big difference in trying to fix a problem, and trying to unfix one.
Jeb is all wet and just goes to show how internationalists and their thinking have become entrenched in USA society. I don’t think Reagan would ever have thought let alone espouse that ‘a new world order’ is/was coming for the viability of the USA. Reagan, I knew of him as Gov. of California, was a true USA person even though I did not agree on somethings that happened when he was in office(s).
Why does Mrs. Bush think anybody gives a damn what he says??
I call Jeb Mrs. Bush. He looks like his mother and is a spinless rino.
“Reagan would be a Tea Party darling. He is their PERFECT candidate”
I don’t think so. He authored a massive immigration bill, cooperated a lot with Tip O’Neill, and had a change of heart over abortion after signing it into legality as a governor of California in the late ‘60s.
I think many FReepers would call him a RINO were he around today, and that makes me sad.
Why all of a sudden are we hearing all of Jeb Bush’s opinions.
Does anyone really care what Jeb Bush has to say?
His Momma runs the family,if we want to ask something we will ask her. Right now we don’t have anything we care to hear from her or Jeb.
“Jebs father rode Ronald Reagans coattails. Bush would never have been President if not for Ronald Reagan.”
Bush was Reagan’s greatest mistake. Reagan should have gone with his instinct and picked Laxalt for VP. Screw the Bushes and thier “kinder gentler” bull crap.
With all due respect, Jeb, you're comparing apples and oranges. Your dad, a good man, was a solid representative of the GOP establishment--and your dad's boss was the antithesis of that same GOP establishment.
Reagan worked with Democrats but he also pushed them to his side, and your dad worked with Democrats by going to THEIR side. Big difference.
Jeb, you know better, and you ought to be honest about the history.
Your dad was a one-termer because of compromise--he was skewered by the Democrats for compromising and he had abandoned his conservative reporters for the same act.
Agree 100%. Is Jeb aware that the 2012 GOP nominee for president is going to be Mitt Romney? When numbskulls such as Jeb say thing alike this, just once I would like a follow up question like that.
The people are just “correcting” that mistake through the Tea Party.
And they DID reject your dad because he was never a conservative to begin with.
Screw you Fat Boy, Ronald Reagan would not have let a third-rate probate judge in some backwater county in Florida cut his balls off and then proceed to murder by judicial fiat, the life of an innocent disabled woman, you know like Terri Schiavo?
GTFO you RINO turd, NO MORE BUSHES!
And the reason why I am totally and absolutely against ANY form of amnesty and any form of forgiveness for family members (where ever they were born) and those who abet illegals ever again.
Doing it 'for the children' as in the dream act, or even as a reward for military service, would only be scammed or used as a back door for an invasion even larger than the one that followed Reagan's essentially humanitarian experiment.
I have no problem with his father, but the Reagan part of this statement is just silly. Reagan was a conservative’s conservative.
As for seeking common ground, that has its place but why do these politicians have to whine like babies? Waa waa, if I’m not conservative enough they won’t vote for me, boo hoo.
Your Dad coined the phrase: “New World Order”.
GHWB was also stupid enough to have had racist-progressive RINO Colin Powell as his top General in Desert Storm and let Sadam’s army retreat back to Bagdad only to have to refight the same battles under GW’s tenure.
Don’t mention RINO GHWB and Reagan in the same breath.
Would never make love with any of those bushes. Will not hide in the bushes either. Staying out of the bushes and not going to bed with any of them. Otherwise I be, you be, and the country be scr____. Well that is the word am not wanting to spell.
“Reagan showed in his history that he learned from his mistakes.”
First of all, Reagan was up there in the top 2 or 3 greatest presidents IMHO.
But, Reagan did ban the open carry of loaded guns in California (due to the Black Panther’s carrying them at parades, on the courthouse steps, etc.)
And when he was out of office after being president, he had voiced his support for the Brady Bill.
I always wonder about the internet and Reagan’s election. If people had been able to bring up all the old votes, old comments, etc. that Reagan had made over the years - especially when he was a Democrat, would he have still been elected?
It seems that with all the information we have at our hands now-a-days it is too easy to find too many opposing views about them, making it REALLY hard to find someone that we think we can agree with 80% of the time (or whatever percent Reagan said).