Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Will North Dakota be the first state to end property taxes?
Post Bulletin ^ | 6/11/12 | Josh Goodman

Posted on 06/11/2012 2:27:22 PM PDT by Libloather

Will North Dakota be the first state to end property taxes?
By Josh Goodman
Associated Press
Posted: Jun 11, 2012, 10:29 am

WASHINGTON — North Dakota voters on Tuesday will decide the fate of a ballot initiative that would make the state the first in the country to end property taxes.

If any state is going to take such a dramatic step, North Dakota would seem to be a likely candidate. North Dakota is generally a conservative state, and fiscal conservatives generally support lower taxes. The state is also experiencing a surge in tax revenue unrivaled elsewhere. The property tax is often described as the least popular of the taxes that fund state and local government.

Yet even those ingredients don’t appear as though they will be enough. The reason why is that, regardless of what interest or what party they represent, the powers-that-be in North Dakota have a preference for caution. That same preference exists in other states, which is why the most sweeping ballot measures to change or limit government have tended to fail lately.

Supporting the end of the property tax are a small group of amateur activists led by Charlene Nelson, a stay-at-home mom from Harmony Township in Casselton, North Dakota who homeschools her three boys. Nelson says she’s put 13,000 miles on her car since February traveling the state in support of Measure 2. Her husband just changed the oil for the fourth time.

(Excerpt) Read more at postbulletin.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: North Dakota
KEYWORDS: dakota; keystonexl; north; northdakota; oilshale; property; propertytaxes; taxes
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-35 next last
a small group of amateur activists

Compared to the freeloaders - a small group of professional activists.

1 posted on 06/11/2012 2:27:35 PM PDT by Libloather
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Libloather
Be prepared for an influx of citizens. No, make that a stamdpede.
2 posted on 06/11/2012 2:33:20 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Libloather

Of course, all the public gubmint unions are opposed to this.


3 posted on 06/11/2012 2:38:57 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sir Napsalot
And with the 1st REAL HARD COLD winter watch them stampede right back out! Lived there most of my life . . . it takes a strong will and a hardscrabble attitude to stay where it can go weeks without getting even above Zero.
4 posted on 06/11/2012 2:41:01 PM PDT by clifcrds (To be safe . . . get used to saying "Yes, He Cares For The Poor".)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Libloather
Will North Dakota be the first state to end property taxes?

Watch for a stampede because of a mass exodus from Minnesota.

5 posted on 06/11/2012 2:41:11 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Libloather

Rush says they don’t have the balls. I agree.


6 posted on 06/11/2012 2:42:01 PM PDT by fish hawk (Religion: Man's attempt to gain salvation or the approbation of God by his own works)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Libloather

North Dakota is part of the Spine of America. North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma and Texas.


7 posted on 06/11/2012 2:43:08 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sir Napsalot

Property tax make property ownership impossible since you essentially are renting from the county. If you don’t pay the rent, the property is returned to the county and sold to others for the back rent.


8 posted on 06/11/2012 2:43:49 PM PDT by The Old Commander (Anyone who votes for Obama is either delusional or a moron)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Libloather
Ending property taxes? You mean, ending the rental payments on the property you think you own to local government?

If you don't pay up, force will be used against you to ensure that you do. In my book, this means you don't own the property.

9 posted on 06/11/2012 2:44:08 PM PDT by bkopto (Obama and Biden merely symptoms of a more profound, systemic disease in American body politic.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Libloather
I'd bet they keep property taxes.
ND is a prairie populist kind of state...
10 posted on 06/11/2012 2:53:15 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: The Old Commander
>>> Property tax make property ownership impossible ....

How is that so? You still buy and sell real estate properties, there are still deeds for ownership.

From what I read ND had surplus revenues so they don't depend on property tax to provide citizens services. ??? (Maybe I got the Measure 2 wrong.)

Elimination of it definitely will attract more citizens and businesses to relocate to their state.

11 posted on 06/11/2012 2:59:54 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Sir Napsalot

Nobody owns any property, everyone rents from the county. Don’t pay and they evict your ass.


12 posted on 06/11/2012 3:03:01 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Libloather
a small group of amateur activists

For a second there I thought this might be a story about the Obama Administration.

13 posted on 06/11/2012 3:05:14 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Eric in the Ozarks

You are exactly right.

Rural population fears loss of services and the swells in the bigger towns like having somebody else’s money to spend.


14 posted on 06/11/2012 3:13:20 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Sir Napsalot
And in New Hampshire:
Constitutional amendment banning income tax will go to voters in November


15 posted on 06/11/2012 3:14:17 PM PDT by ex91B10 (We've tried the Soap Box,the Ballot Box and the Jury Box; one box left.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Libloather
The property tax is often described as the least popular of the taxes that fund state and local government.

No wonder! Unless a person is super wealthy, it forces him either to become a working farmer or cattleman, so that he can afford the taxes on his spread. Or to forgo the dream of ever owning a spread in the first place and moving into some urban ghetto where the government and other busybodies can keep an eye on him. The dream that was America really died with the institution of the property tax. It makes everyone an indentured servant of the state.

16 posted on 06/11/2012 3:17:10 PM PDT by LibWhacker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: The Old Commander

Yup. It’s criminal. There are other ways to raise revenue than to drive folks from their homes. No government should be able to tax you out of your house (or other property/wealth, for that matter). Personally, I’m definitely taxed enough ... however ... given the choice, I would pay higher income tax to get rid of the property tax. That way, when I’m no longer earning, I don’t have to fear being homeless thanks to my ‘benevolent’ government.


17 posted on 06/11/2012 3:18:45 PM PDT by JustSurrounded (Repeal it all.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: EGPWS

“Will North Dakota be the first state to end property taxes?

Watch for a stampede because of a mass exodus from Minnesota.”

Count me as a MN resident that would highly consider such a move.


18 posted on 06/11/2012 3:23:30 PM PDT by lquist1
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Libloather
I'm actually thinking that ending property taxes is a bad idea, as it takes away people having skin in the game.

Its much easier to raise someone else’s taxes than your own, and property taxation if flat and fair.

Lower the millage rates, but don't get rid of them.

19 posted on 06/11/2012 3:54:03 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Libloather
"Will North Dakota be the first state to end property taxes?"

No. The overpaid government and government-linked parasites will be less politically active after the needed economic collapse. Then property taxes will probably be abolished in most other states.

Residential real estate will be declining for at least another 20 years. Good riddance to the legalized robberies from those rackets.


20 posted on 06/11/2012 4:27:43 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-35 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson