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Jeb Bush Says His Father and Reagan Would Lose Out in Today’s GOP [Bushes Please Go Away!]
ABCNews ^ | June 11, 2012

Posted on 06/11/2012 11:07:08 PM PDT by Steelfish

Jun 11, 2012 Jeb Bush Says His Father and Reagan Would Lose Out in Today’s GOP

Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush today said that both Ronald Reagan and his father, George H.W. Bush, would have a hard time getting nominated by the more conservative voters in today’s Republican Party.

“Ronald Reagan would have, based on his record of finding accommodation, finding some degree of common ground, as would my dad, they would have a hard time if you define the Republican party, and I don’t, as having an orthodoxy that doesn’t allow for disagreement, doesn’t allow for finding some common ground,” Bush said, according to Buzzfeed, which reported Bush’s giving the comments at the headquarters of Bloomberg LP in New York City.

Bush, a much-discussed contender to be Mitt Romney’s running mate, said he sees the ultra-conservative and partisan standards of today’s GOP as “disturbing,” but called “this dysfunction … temporary.” “It’s just a different environment left and right,” Bush said.

During his “dad’s time and Ronald Reagan’s time,” Bush said, they “got a lot of stuff done with a lot of bipartisan support,” according to the report, adding that Reagan “would be criticized for doing the things that he did.”

Bush railed against both sides, but blamed President Obama for much of the clashing.

“His first year could have been a year of enormous accomplishment had he focused on things where there was more common ground,” Bush said, arguing that he believed Obama made the “purely political calculation” to run a more partisan administration.

This is the latest in a series of comments Bush has made recently either criticizing his party or expressing policy points openly breaking with the presumptive GOP nominee. Bush separated himself from Romney on the issue of illegal immigrants already in the United States.

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1 posted on 06/11/2012 11:07:13 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

Id prefer the Bush family stay...whatever happened to freedom of speech anyway? Freepers dont seem to like it at times

I think this has been posted plenty however, so maybe you can get it to leave


2 posted on 06/11/2012 11:13:31 PM PDT by woofie (It takes three villages and a forest of woodland creatures to raise a child in Obamaville)
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To: Steelfish

Knowing what we know now, Ronnie would win; Bushes would lose. F’ the new world order and future Bush politicians.


3 posted on 06/11/2012 11:16:43 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: Steelfish

Knowing what we know now, Ronnie would win; Bushes would lose. F’ the new world order and future Bush politicians.


4 posted on 06/11/2012 11:16:53 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: Steelfish

It is just another way to mock and insult the conservatives.

Here at FR, the same insult is always thrown by our more liberal members as a mocking dig at the Reagan/Palin conservative part of the GOP.


5 posted on 06/11/2012 11:19:25 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP now goes for it's Presidential candidates.)
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To: Steelfish

those were different days,,the days before we were absolutely railroaded by pelosi and reid and obama,the days when everyone panicked at 100’s of billions instead of not blinking an eye at trillions upon trillions!the days before the regulatory and taxation demons were somewhat subdued,instead of nurtured.etc,,it goes on far more than I want to write,,,but Reagan would win now easily.


6 posted on 06/11/2012 11:19:44 PM PDT by coalman (survived carter ,disco and clinton,just holding on till 2012)
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To: Steelfish

I must admit that when I hear Jeb B talking about matters politik, I throw up a little in my mouth.


7 posted on 06/11/2012 11:20:33 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: Steelfish

Your dad was accommodating? Fk that.

Your dad bent over, smiled and happily pissed away all the good will he engendered from whomping Saadaam....


8 posted on 06/11/2012 11:20:33 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

If tomorrow RR was able to propose the amnesty program that he passed into law you would boil him in oil.

Jeb spoke the truth

Hating the Bush family is a sickness....seek help


9 posted on 06/11/2012 11:21:33 PM PDT by woofie (It takes three villages and a forest of woodland creatures to raise a child in Obamaville)
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To: woofie

If this is true, then why was a moderate nominated?

The Bushes are pure garbage, trash, all of them. Curses on them, forever.


10 posted on 06/11/2012 11:30:42 PM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (they all stink)
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To: Tea Party Terrorist

Gee remind me never to be your President

If you are for real you have gotta be under the pond scum.....

Are you what has become of the tea party? sad


11 posted on 06/11/2012 11:34:11 PM PDT by woofie (It takes three villages and a forest of woodland creatures to raise a child in Obamaville)
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To: Steelfish

His comments aren’t achieving anything other than hurting the Republican party. I guess he’s out of the game now and has gotten old and cranky.


12 posted on 06/11/2012 11:34:24 PM PDT by 92nina
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To: woofie

Must be some money involved. What does he do for a living now? Where’s Neil? What does he think? I think we all want 5% unemployment and $1.86 a gallon gas. The GOPE strikes again!


13 posted on 06/11/2012 11:35:14 PM PDT by DISCO
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To: woofie

I can guess you’re not a liberal or else you’d never praise Bush. I can also guess you are not a conservative or else you’d never praise Bush.


14 posted on 06/11/2012 11:40:19 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: woofie

For one, Reagan did not have a Republican Congress. He had to work with what he had. Secondly, Reagan’s amnesty is a good reason why we don’t want another one. I think Reagan even later said he regretted it. It’s called learning from mistakes. Finally, government today, is far more intrusive and way more expensive now than then. None of us really know what a Reagan would do in today’s environment, so it’s a big stretch to say we’d “boil him in oil.”


15 posted on 06/11/2012 11:41:22 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: 92nina

Rick Scott is turning out to be a better governor than Jeb Bush ever was, maybe this is his idea of sour grapes as he knows Scott is way more fiscally conservative than even he was, and I will give Jeb credit there at least he was fiscally conservative as governor.


16 posted on 06/11/2012 11:42:38 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: Steelfish

As I have posted before, I have met 41 twice and I would rather meet him again more than any other famous living human.

I’d bet money that he would remember my name ... (he did the last time, and it freaked my buddies in the Navy out)

Great Man, Hero and all round Good Guy ... may not agree with his politics 100% but I will forever be grateful for his Service.

GW is right up there with his Dad (although I have not met him) and like his Father I will always be grateful for his Service.

Both have EARNED my respect, neither one asked for it and I served in Uniform under both. (actually from Nixon to GW)

I’m sure Jeb is a good guy but he needs to go do something in the Private Sector and STFU, Politics is not a Career... it should be treated like an affliction.

JMHO

TT


17 posted on 06/11/2012 11:49:21 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (Radical islam is islam. Moderate islam is the Trojan Horse.)
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To: Blue Highway

That pretty much sums up the issue.


18 posted on 06/11/2012 11:50:33 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Steelfish

Jeb Bush Says His Father

Mark my words, more new taxes.


19 posted on 06/11/2012 11:54:02 PM PDT by Varsity Flight (Phony-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: Steelfish

Why do Republicans, like the Bushes, feel it necessary to bash the right as much if not worse than the left? We conservatives are constantly accused of being purists. Why in the world is it considered “purist” to expect the so-called small government party, aka Republicans, to actually produce smaller government?

People who agree with us 80% of the time are supposed to be our friends, right? Well, you’d never know it. BTW, I very rarely ever read about Nancy Pelosi or other Democrats attacking their left. It appears they reserve all their ire for the right. Even if the moderate Republicans disagree with the right 20% of the time (it actually seems more like 80%), wouldn’t it make political sense to mend broken fences and make peace with your 80% friends, like the Democrats do with their voters?

I have often written against third parties, but I can’t vote for people, like Jeb Bush or Romney, who apparently oppose me on so many key issues.


20 posted on 06/11/2012 11:58:46 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: woofie

Candidate Reagan would be running as the conservative he was, and the people would respond to him as they did.

Reagan would be far ahead today as a candidate than he was in 1980.


21 posted on 06/12/2012 12:04:09 AM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP now goes for it's Presidential candidates.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I guess I now realize that I cannot stomach what has happened to FR lately

I would expect that with what will be the an extremely important election coming up people would be doing more than whining about their hurt feelings because ‘BAD” Jeb Bush dared to criticize the state of the Republican party.
Even if he is wrong surely its a good thing that he can say what he wants.

Not here
Here its :
I hate Bush
I hate Rove
I hate Romney
I hate the elites

There is barely enough time to hate Obama.

Does anyone really care about this kind of stuff ?

I vaguely remember interesting debates in the past.
Or maybe it was my imagination.

The level of discourse now is pathetic.

And some of the left over old timers are the worst,

Tonight I had a guy from 1998 tell me the Bushes were Masons and therefore evil.
Wow! At least your mods cleaned up some of the nasty stuff he said to me

....but do you really think you need nuts like that around ?

Maybe they provide some flavor....I dont know

I’ve watched some good people leave over the years and its time for me to join them

I guess the world changes...things change
I see no point in discussing things at this mindless level anymore

Thanks for FR ......It meant a lot to me
Please remove me from active participation


22 posted on 06/12/2012 12:08:12 AM PDT by woofie (It takes three villages and a forest of woodland creatures to raise a child in Obamaville)
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To: woofie

Pretty Lame OPUS

Most folks start a thread so they can get some feedback

You come in on the end of a thread, late .. no fun at all.

TT


23 posted on 06/12/2012 12:13:14 AM PDT by TexasTransplant (Radical islam is islam. Moderate islam is the Trojan Horse.)
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To: woofie
“It’s the one thing that separates us from the rest of the world, is to say embrace our values, learn our language and work hard and dream big and create what you want to create because it helps all of us,” Bush told Charlie Rose.

MILLIONS of illegals in this country have absolutely no interest in embracing our values or learning our language. If Jeb, or any Bush for that matter, really gave a damn about what we have to deal with in the Southwestern US, he would understand this basic fact.

“You have to deal with this issue, you can’t ignore it and so either a path to citizenship, which I would support and that does put me probably out of the mainstream of most conservatives or … a path to residency of some kind.”

Call it whatever you want Jeb....it's amnesty. Amnesty has and will always fail, because it just encourages more illegal immigration. EITHER you are completely clueless about this basic fact, and thus are incompetent to serve in any position of influence in national politics, OR you are a closeted open borders advocate who has no respect for national sovereignty.


Jeb can talk all he wants. He's free to do that. His timing here is quite questionable though, and smells to high heaven of long term electioneering. Why now, after the nomination is Romney's? And why is it that Conservatives are too extreme, when in fact it's moderates like the Bushs who have helped democrats get the country into the deep hole that it's in?

Jeb can talk all he wants...but I just wish he'd be honest and call himself a democrat. Otherwise, STFU Jeb!
24 posted on 06/12/2012 12:15:05 AM PDT by rottndog (Be Prepared....for what's coming AFTER America...)
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To: woofie; Jim Robinson

Sorry ... should have included Jim in that last post... so I repeat myself ...

***** “Pretty Lame OPUS

Most folks start a thread so they can get some feedback

You come in on the end of a thread, late .. no fun at all.

TT “ *****


25 posted on 06/12/2012 12:18:38 AM PDT by TexasTransplant (Radical islam is islam. Moderate islam is the Trojan Horse.)
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To: TexasTransplant

Maybe you can do better


26 posted on 06/12/2012 12:20:41 AM PDT by woofie (It takes three villages and a forest of woodland creatures to raise a child in Obamaville)
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To: Steelfish
Bush, a much-discussed contender to be Mitt Romney’s running mate, said he sees the ultra-conservative and partisan standards of today’s GOP as “disturbing,” but called “this dysfunction … temporary.” “It’s just a different environment left and right,” Bush said.

Not much difference between slavery and freedom, eh John Ellis?

27 posted on 06/12/2012 12:24:34 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: woofie

Never been a very good quitter ... so probably not

Too stubborn I guess.

I’ll loan you a little thick skin if ya promise to hang around awhile, you will be missed

TT


28 posted on 06/12/2012 12:32:37 AM PDT by TexasTransplant (Radical islam is islam. Moderate islam is the Trojan Horse.)
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To: Steelfish

Jeb Bush’s comments reveal that he is not taking the time to understand what’s at stake


29 posted on 06/12/2012 12:33:41 AM PDT by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: Steelfish

I really am sick of the Bushs. Especially this one. The party just nominated a Mass moderate and this dumb bast@rd is out there saying the party is too conservative. Brainless twit.


30 posted on 06/12/2012 12:38:26 AM PDT by SoDak
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To: CitizenUSA

“Why do Republicans, like the Bushes, feel it necessary to bash the right as much if not worse than the left?”

Government Lifers


31 posted on 06/12/2012 12:45:06 AM PDT by Varsity Flight (Phony-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: Steelfish

I’m just wondering who really gives a flip about what Jeb Bush says about anything?

I surely don’t.


32 posted on 06/12/2012 12:45:28 AM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: jonrick46

“Jeb Bush s comments reveal that he is not taking the time to understand whats at stake”

They sure do, Government Lifers, they’re all behind Hillary Romney.


33 posted on 06/12/2012 12:48:56 AM PDT by Varsity Flight (Phony-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: woofie
I see it here on FR and hear it on talk radio. There is a great divide in our country and it's dividing conservative groups. Fear of socialism sweeping our states and federal government has us drawing lines in the sand on each other. We need to unite or we will be swallowed individually by what we seek to defeat. We can fight our own little battles once the war is won.
34 posted on 06/12/2012 12:50:02 AM PDT by liberty or death
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To: liberty or death; woofie

100% Agreement


35 posted on 06/12/2012 12:54:36 AM PDT by TexasTransplant (Radical islam is islam. Moderate islam is the Trojan Horse.)
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To: Varsity Flight

I do not credit Jeb with knowing much of anything when it comes to our nation’s train ride to disaster. Jeb’s punching of the RINO ticket tells me he is living in the past, out of touch, and needs to find himself a cane and a rocking chair on the front porch.


36 posted on 06/12/2012 1:02:48 AM PDT by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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Jeb Bush sounds like a Republican without any core principles. Reagan compromised with the Denocrats and the Democrats lied to him. Bush Compromised with Democrats and government grew. When did accomadating with democrats lead to government getting smaller?


37 posted on 06/12/2012 1:03:22 AM PDT by RginTN
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To: Steelfish

This is quite the lame, back-handed attempt to equate Romney with Reagan.

The Bushes turned out to be two of the worst presidents on record, as far as Republicans go. Don’t dare compare yourselves to Reagan.

Makes me all sorts of sick, and a reason the GOP hasn’t gotten a dime out of me in years.


38 posted on 06/12/2012 1:04:02 AM PDT by risen_feenix
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To: RginTN

**** “Jeb Bush sounds like a Republican without any core principles. Reagan compromised with the Denocrats and the Democrats lied to him. Bush Compromised with Democrats and government grew. When did accomadating with democrats lead to government getting smaller? “ ****

You know the answer... next question,

When will eating our own defeat Obama?

Sorry folks ... ANYBODY BUT OBAMA is how my card is punched

TT


39 posted on 06/12/2012 1:20:21 AM PDT by TexasTransplant (Radical islam is islam. Moderate islam is the Trojan Horse.)
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To: Steelfish

I liked George Sr, was disappointed when he let the Dims trick him into raising taxes.

Liked W. just fine.

For me, character is the deciding factor. If you want to run around unzipped, lying and stealing, forget it.

The Bushes seem to me of good character, unlike most of the Dims I have observed


40 posted on 06/12/2012 1:25:54 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: RginTN

Jeb actually showed he had no core principles when he didn’t rescue Terry Schiavo.


41 posted on 06/12/2012 1:30:03 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: risen_feenix

The Bushes were NOT “two of the worst Presidents on record” Billy Clinton was awful, Kennedy was awful, Jimmah Carter was awful, Obama is dismal, FDR was awful, the first Communist President.


42 posted on 06/12/2012 1:32:22 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: woofie

Yes, of course people can and should exercise the 1A rights... but how many times is Jeb going to run that knife in the backs of the people trying to make a stand vs. Obama. How about he direct some of that fire at the dems???


43 posted on 06/12/2012 1:36:12 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: Steelfish

J Bush is full of $h!t.


44 posted on 06/12/2012 1:51:04 AM PDT by RonnG
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To: Steelfish

J Bush is full of $h!t.


45 posted on 06/12/2012 1:51:14 AM PDT by RonnG
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To: Steelfish

J Bush is full of $h!t.


46 posted on 06/12/2012 1:51:31 AM PDT by RonnG
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To: woofie

I HATE the Bushes. George Senior betrayed the Reagan Revolution and did his damn best to try and shore up the collapsing Evil Empire. Bush II spent money like a drunken sailor and got us bogged down in a fruitless nation building catastrophe in Iraq and Afghanistan.

And now THIS idiot! The Bush people on this poll were saying was THIS jerk was a real CONSERVATIVE Bush - and NOW he is making statements which can only HELP Obama - and to a left wing media organ no less.

I wish all the bushes would go to hell. Every last one of them.


47 posted on 06/12/2012 2:03:17 AM PDT by ZULU (See: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=D9vQt6IXXaM&hd)
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To: woofie

Bush I’s legacy was a Bill Clinton victory and Bush II’s legacy was an Obama Presidency.

None of this family from Barbara the Gun Hater on down to Jeb and his offspring would be fit to clean Reagan’s shoes.

They are a clan of Northeastern Yankees masquerading as real Texans.


48 posted on 06/12/2012 2:15:49 AM PDT by ZULU (See: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=D9vQt6IXXaM&hd)
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To: woofie

Hasta la Vista. I’m a Mason and I can’t stand the Bushes.


49 posted on 06/12/2012 2:18:26 AM PDT by ZULU (See: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=D9vQt6IXXaM&hd)
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To: risen_feenix

AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!


50 posted on 06/12/2012 2:21:48 AM PDT by ZULU (See: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=D9vQt6IXXaM&hd)
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