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Zogby: Disillusioned young voters dropping out
Washington Examiner ^ | 6-11-2012 | Paul Bedard

Posted on 06/12/2012 4:59:45 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot

Nearly four years after enthusiastic younger voters poured into polling booths to help push Barack Obama over the finish line and into the Oval Office, their hope has turned to fear and pollster John Zogby says that they are ready to give up on politics.

“I truly am worried about today's twenty-somethings,” he frets. “They are our global generation and I have seen them move from hope and grand expectations for themselves and their world to anxiety and disillusionment. We can't afford to lose them,” he adds.

Zogby previewed his remarks to the League of Women Voters 50th anniversary convention Monday night with Secrets. His worry: that younger voters will stop voting.

(snip) “You are needed more than ever,” he says of the group. “I see from your mission that you 'encourage' and I think we all need to move into crisis mode and use the word 'engage'. Especially young women.”

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


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Zogby urged political activists (League of Women Voters) to use youth-friendly social media to target first time voters, esp. impressionable young women.
1 posted on 06/12/2012 4:59:49 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot
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To: Sir Napsalot

GOOD,

their “illusionment” is why we have the 0bamanation that we have today.


2 posted on 06/12/2012 5:00:47 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Sir Napsalot

How about trying the conservative side?

Just saying...


3 posted on 06/12/2012 5:05:17 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (America doesn't need any new laws. America needs freedom!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

won’t get fooled again


4 posted on 06/12/2012 5:05:54 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Sir Napsalot
1. Mindlessly embrace socialism.

2. Blame others for the failures of socialism.

3. Become disillusioned with socialism.

4. Enter life, and learn factual lessons of economics and human dynamics.

5. Reemerge as a conservative voter.

5 posted on 06/12/2012 5:07:28 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Absolutely good. Whose bright idea was it to bump the voting age from 21 back to 18 anyway? That was stupid from the start.


6 posted on 06/12/2012 5:07:47 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (What if there is no tomorrow? There wasn't one today.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Great news.... They should just sit the election out. This will kill Jug Ears election chances


7 posted on 06/12/2012 5:07:58 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

my soon to be 18 yo daughter [her birthday is next month and she will have already voted in two primaries by then] is going to begin a volunteer internship at the Fairfax County VA GOP HQ tomorrow. the internship info was distributed by her HS [private] via email the last week of school. some lib parent must have gotten their panties in a twist because the school immediately sent out another email saying they were going to contact the Dem party HQ to seek internship opportunities there.


8 posted on 06/12/2012 5:09:14 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: SampleMan

>>> 5. Reemerge as a conservative voter.

Most of them won’t be that until much much later in life.

Unfortunately.


9 posted on 06/12/2012 5:10:24 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: yldstrk

Of course I could be wrong...but this cycle reminds me SO much of 1980...at this point in the cycle Carter was ahead of RR by 12-15 percent...look what happened.

I smell a Romney landslide.


10 posted on 06/12/2012 5:11:06 AM PDT by kjo (+)
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To: yldstrk

meet the new boss, worse than the old boss


11 posted on 06/12/2012 5:12:00 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: xsmommy

Lol!


12 posted on 06/12/2012 5:12:36 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (America doesn't need any new laws. America needs freedom!)
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To: Sir Napsalot
Nearly four years after enthusiastic younger voters poured into polling booths to help push Barack Obama over the finish line and into the Oval Office, their hope has turned to fear and pollster John Zogby says that they are ready to give up on politics.

If they voted in droves for 0bama, then the world will be better off without them or their help.

13 posted on 06/12/2012 5:14:41 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Our global generation?

What is he talking about?


14 posted on 06/12/2012 5:19:17 AM PDT by ILS21R (John Locke: When the social contract is broken, the people must revolt.)
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To: Past Your Eyes
Whose bright idea was it to bump the voting age from 21 back to 18 anyway?
How about the 18, 19 and 20 year olds who were sent off to Vietnam by politicians they never voted for.
15 posted on 06/12/2012 5:19:31 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Sir Napsalot

I’m not sure that I think the youngest voters necessarily “need” to vote. It doesn’t hurt for the young to observe a while (and gain some life experience). They need to understand that politicians talk the talk, then do the Etch-a-Sketch. Then there’s the law of unintended consequences. And so on.
JMHO.


16 posted on 06/12/2012 5:19:31 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: Clara Lou

Yeah, I think Zogby should get over it if some young people don’t vote this year.


17 posted on 06/12/2012 5:25:22 AM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Clara Lou

If conservative parents are doing their jobs properly, their youngest voters will be perfectly competent to vote. All three of mine (18, 21, 24) will be reliable conservative votes in VA this fall, and so will their friends. they have heard their father and i discuss politics from the time they were born. They are informed, they know WHY we believe what we do, and they are able to discern which teachers/professors are liberal etc. If they don’t know anything about a particular issue, they will ask/research it. My son came home last fall from Syracuse University, asking about HYDROFRACKING, because there’s a huge uproar against it in upstate NY. My brother is a petroleum engineer who works for a well services company. My husband and i filled my son in, the best we could and then we passed him on to Uncle Michael for the rest.


18 posted on 06/12/2012 5:26:23 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: MrB

“their “illusionment” is why we have the 0bamanation that we have today.”
_______________________________________________

And it comes from today’s educational system K thru Grad school, as well as the MSM.
America in no way resembles the country that I grew up in,
50s and 60s.
I am now retired overseas and have no intention of returning.


19 posted on 06/12/2012 5:26:40 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: Sir Napsalot

Weren’t they poling ‘drop outs’ to begin with?

They surveyed a minority OF a minority... and we’re supposed to be concerned with THAT element?!

That is what Liberalism has become.... innumerable indolent, disaffected and ill-informed elements who pool together and decide they hate the ‘Government’.... from which they obtain and demand ever more benefits!!!

When did the Government change into something which is NOT a reflection of the people who put it into place? The American ‘Government’ is populated by Americans! For good or ill, that’s what we may praise or blame according to our own understanding and, I hope, honesty!


20 posted on 06/12/2012 5:27:58 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: oh8eleven

“How about the 18, 19 and 20 year olds who were sent off to Vietnam by politicians they never voted for.”

Excellent response. In my opinion, 55,000 men were murdered by the politicians during the Vietnam era.


21 posted on 06/12/2012 5:27:58 AM PDT by Kratos
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To: Kratos
In my opinion, 55,000 men were murdered by ...
LBJ. In just a few years, he did more damage to America than the commies did in the preceding century.
22 posted on 06/12/2012 5:36:26 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: ILS21R

“Our global generation?

What is he talking about?”

You know...our global generation, the ones who could soon be wearing “Made In The World” labels in their clothing - if the morons have their way.


23 posted on 06/12/2012 5:42:40 AM PDT by Heart of Georgia
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To: Sir Napsalot

Good, let the grown-ups take over. The young were among those fooled by the great deceiver, 0bama.


24 posted on 06/12/2012 5:49:08 AM PDT by Tigercap
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To: SampleMan

So true. My story (i’m not proud to admit)


25 posted on 06/12/2012 5:50:02 AM PDT by Tigercap
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To: Past Your Eyes
Absolutely good. Whose bright idea was it to bump the voting age from 21 back to 18 anyway? That was stupid from the start.

When we were drafted at 18 to go overseas in the 50's and 60's and get our asses shot at, we thought it might be fair to allow us to vote.

They got rid of the draft, maybe they should have changed the law to allow only military to vote at 18.

26 posted on 06/12/2012 6:01:21 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages, start today.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

That was my first thought too. Apparently they can see that the libs are clueless buffoons, but won’t look at the other side. At least partially (I would assume), because conservatism has been vilified for so long and it’s not “cool.”


27 posted on 06/12/2012 6:17:06 AM PDT by mykroar (October race riots bring November martial law.)
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To: xsmommy

Not that you need it anymore, but here is a short video on hydrofracking put out by one of the ND oil companies: http://www.northernoil.com/drilling


28 posted on 06/12/2012 6:31:54 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: SampleMan
that pretty much describes my 20s.
29 posted on 06/12/2012 6:34:22 AM PDT by Jeff Vader
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To: Sir Napsalot

Zogby previewed his remarks to the League of Women Voters 50th anniversary convention Monday night with Secrets.

&&&
What in the heck does that sentence mean? And this is Paul Bedard!

Re the apparent Zogby message: Sounds like his bias is really showing; the League of Women Voters is just another Rat group.


30 posted on 06/12/2012 6:34:52 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: Past Your Eyes; USS Alaska; oh8eleven

I never did agree with the draft - aside from filling the ranks with people who didn’t want to be there, it is my opinion that 18 is to young to be in combat.

Certainly I do not agree with high school kids voting.
Never did, even when I was a teen in the 60s & early 70s.

If recruitment of teenagers is needed, then perhaps a tiered system would be better, where, except in cases of real emergency, you may not serve in combat units, but be relegated to other support duties with pay and benefits reflecting such.

In WWII the average age in the military was higher - in the mid 25s I believe.

Returning the voting age to 21 would, at least, improve the maturity of the average voter...


31 posted on 06/12/2012 6:37:05 AM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: mykroar

Well that one is over.

Four years of selling off America’s assets to pay for ever bigger government must STOP.

Along with that, the buying up of the rest of the world’s stuff, made in assembly lines elsewhere.

America for America. Period.


32 posted on 06/12/2012 6:37:41 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (America doesn't need any new laws. America needs freedom!)
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To: dennisw

Great news.... They should just sit the election out. This will kill Jug Ears election chances

***
The ObaMao campaign doesn’t need to worry; there are many, many illegal young people who will vote for him again.


33 posted on 06/12/2012 6:38:01 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Now if we can just get women to stop voting. (56-43 for O’blamer in 2008).


34 posted on 06/12/2012 6:39:06 AM PDT by BO Stinkss
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To: BO Stinkss

How about convince them to vote, for a Republican?

They vote for Democrats every four years.

Every four years, we get deeper in debt.


35 posted on 06/12/2012 6:41:45 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (America doesn't need any new laws. America needs freedom!)
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To: Balding_Eagle

that is really well done, clear and easy to understand. Thanks. my brother spends a fair amount of time in ND, though his company is headquartered in OH/PA.


36 posted on 06/12/2012 6:48:35 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

“How about convince them to vote, for a Republican?”

It will never happen. Too many single mothers looking for a daddy (government) to take care of their babies.


37 posted on 06/12/2012 6:52:39 AM PDT by BO Stinkss
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To: USS Alaska
They got rid of the draft, maybe they should have changed the law to allow only military to vote at 18.

This.

38 posted on 06/12/2012 7:06:28 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: Sir Napsalot

Reason #2,742 why the words “I will forgive your student loans” shall pass Obama’s lips before Halloween.


39 posted on 06/12/2012 7:14:45 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: bill1952
Returning the voting age to 21 ...
Teenage skulls are full of liberal propaganda and there isn't one Dem in this country who would vote for that.
Hell, they won't even pass Voter ID laws ... and we all know why. Feckin' commies.
40 posted on 06/12/2012 7:36:51 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Looks like that old 1967 Timothy Leary phrase,

“Turn on, tune in, drop out,”

is becoming popular once again but I’m hoping it is in a conservative direction.


41 posted on 06/12/2012 7:43:25 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
I will forgive your student loans

If Obama says those words, he will make his defeat in November. even more resounding.

It will turn off the many who either did not use the student loan program or who faithfully paid their loans off. Plus, most voters would quickly call it a phony desperate campaign ruse.

42 posted on 06/12/2012 7:48:34 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I really doubt Zogby ever really sampled young conservatives. They are universally shunned in most areas
where one like Zogby would sample - liberal college campuses and universities.

I’d be willing to be there is no disillusionment with Obama with them. They KNOW what he is and they are energized, but not to vote for him.

I’m glad to hear Obama’s 99%ers aren’t going to get out and vote - they don’t need to be voting anyway.


43 posted on 06/12/2012 7:53:30 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Sir Napsalot
We can't afford to lose them

Gloves, masks and in 0h0m0's world, briefs are off!

Zogby, a commie bastard who lost his "polling" credibility a long time ago.

He ain't polling any more; he's "polluting" Americans' brains by misleading the younger “global” generation to the 0kaka’s Promised Utopia.

44 posted on 06/12/2012 7:55:59 AM PDT by melancholy (Professor Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist, Ph.D in L0w and H0lder)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Yes Mr. Zogby. It it is very impotant to have the youngest and women engaged because the former are largely uneducated and the latter are so in touch with their feelings, with a nominal percentage voting for the liberal America hater.

Didn’t you know that Occupy Wall Street and the liberal’s claim of a republican War On Women were attempts to get both women and “the young”.....”engaged?”


45 posted on 06/12/2012 8:36:49 AM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: oh8eleven; USS Alaska

Let’ em vote. When I got drafted at age 22 into the Marine Corps I had recently voted for the man whose name was on my draft notice. There’s always going to be a “How about....?” but that shouldn’t stop you from doing the right thing. I absolutely believe in the draft. There are now two generations growed up that didn’t have the advantage of having the draft hanging over them and I say that in all seriousness.
Funny thing about us draftees - we seemed to be the best damm qualified recruits in the platoon. Those are the ones you didn’t get any more when the draft went away.
Thanks for your service, 0811. I was a 4111 in the Marine Corps but a 13 Bravo in the National Guard. Same thing as an 0811.


46 posted on 06/12/2012 10:39:05 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (What if there is no tomorrow? There wasn't one today.)
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To: Past Your Eyes
I was a 4111 in the Marine Corps
"MOS 4100, Basic Marine Corps Exchange"
You got drafted by the MC and ended up in the PX? Gheeze, talk about skating.
Must have been in the late 50s - early 60s?
47 posted on 06/12/2012 10:54:23 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven

You dang right I skated!!! I made E5 in 21 months and never left the East Coast. I was a REMF to beat all REMFs! They knew a good man when they saw one! “;^)
1970 was the year. Well, I got drafted in ‘69 but didn’t go in until January of ‘70. Never actually worked in the PX. I was a bookkeeper/accountant @ Quantico. But not at the PX. I’ll explain it all to you some day.
Did spend about 13 years in the Field Artillery; first M114 and later M198. Battery B, 2/197th FA, NHARNG. Loved it. Especially the last couple years when I was an FO.


48 posted on 06/12/2012 8:31:02 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (What if there is no tomorrow? There wasn't one today.)
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To: Past Your Eyes
I was a bookkeeper/accountant
Thanks for your service and Semper Fi ... even if your most difficult task was right shoulder ledger-book :)
CSMO
49 posted on 06/13/2012 5:42:52 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Great news! Stay at home November 6th. Don’t vote


50 posted on 06/13/2012 5:13:14 PM PDT by dennisw
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