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Feds to set critical habitat for endangered frog
WJTV.com ^ | 11 June 2012 | JANET McCONNAUGHEY

Posted on 06/12/2012 5:21:40 PM PDT by smokingfrog

NEW ORLEANS --

NEW ORLEANS (AP) The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service is designating nearly 6,500 acres in Mississippi and Louisiana as critical habitat for the endangered Mississippi gopher frog the only endangered or threatened frog in the Southeast. About 100 live in the wild, and nearly 900 in zoos.

The land includes about 1,540 acres in St. Tammany Parish, La., and in Mississippi, about 3,500 acres of federal land, 264 acres owned by the state and the rest private.

Edward Poitevent, whose family owns most of the Louisiana land, has been fighting the designation. He says he cannot comment until he reads the full notice to be published Tuesday in the Federal Register.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: fishandwildlife; frogs; lacombe; sttammany

Edward Poitevent is fighting plans by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service to expropriate this family-owned timberland along Louisiana 36 northeast of Lacombe.

The Mississippi gopher frog is stocky, is about three inches long, and ranges in color from black to brown or gray, according to the Fish and Wildlife Service. It is covered with dark spots and warts. And it needs protection, the service says.

1 posted on 06/12/2012 5:21:50 PM PDT by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog

control


2 posted on 06/12/2012 5:25:10 PM PDT by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: smokingfrog
finally, a thread worthy of your screenname.

Smoke 'em if you got 'em!

3 posted on 06/12/2012 5:25:23 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (they have no god but caesar)
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Yes, but how do they taste?


4 posted on 06/12/2012 5:25:43 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

I thought all of Louisiana was overrun with decendants of the Frogs.


5 posted on 06/12/2012 5:25:54 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (Da Bro' Gotsta Go!)
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To: smokingfrog

The last time I was in New Orleans I ordered a seafood platter. It came with frog legs. Mmmm.


6 posted on 06/12/2012 5:26:19 PM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: smokingfrog

The people of Mississippi and Louisiana need to round up all of these goofyass frogs, herd them up to Capitol Hill and then demand that all those goofyass buffoons on Capitol Hill leave the premises. It’s frog country now!


7 posted on 06/12/2012 5:31:05 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Free Stuff or Freedom! You Decide 2012.)
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To: Doogle

http://nationalatlas.gov/printable/fedlands.html#list


8 posted on 06/12/2012 5:31:25 PM PDT by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: smokingfrog

Incredible. I’m still looking for the words ‘Mississippi gopher frog’ in our Constitution or Declaration of Independence.

Can’t the feds just leave people alone?


9 posted on 06/12/2012 5:32:30 PM PDT by laweeks
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To: smokingfrog
D E F U N D !!!!
10 posted on 06/12/2012 5:33:25 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: smokingfrog

What makes me think this has more to do with the BP spill than any frog?


11 posted on 06/12/2012 5:33:57 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

” and then demand that all those goofyass buffoons on Capitol Hill leave the premises. It’s frog country now! “

Well, 535 randomly selected frogs couldn’t do much worse...


12 posted on 06/12/2012 5:35:02 PM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Uncle Ike

LOL! Bingo!


13 posted on 06/12/2012 5:37:13 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Free Stuff or Freedom! You Decide 2012.)
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To: smokingfrog
They're really scarce here now. The Gopher frog is Rana Capito. My favorite yard frogs, Florida Bronze Frogs, are Rana Clamitans. I'm hoping that the recent rains will help them, they've all been hurting.

The skeeters and yellow flies would really get out of control without frogs and other predators. I know that some of you city folks don't take it seriously, but when you live in the woods you get to see what's really going on.

Bronze Frog Rana clamitans clamitans

14 posted on 06/12/2012 5:37:32 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: smokingfrog
UN Agenda 21 disguised as endangered species protection.

The purpose of Agenda 21 is to zone all private property out of existence and herd all you inconvenient human beings into high-rise containment compounds where you will be easier to inventory and track until the time for the Final Solution arrives.

Then the big-government/big-corporate global elite get to build their dachas in the Walden paradise they deserve.

15 posted on 06/12/2012 5:37:51 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: Uncle Ike

good one unk


16 posted on 06/12/2012 5:37:58 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Did you take that photo with an Olympus C2100UZ at F/8 for 1/60ths of a second on December 24th, 2007 at 12:59 PM?


17 posted on 06/12/2012 5:44:01 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Better frog country than multi thousand acre gated communities.

I spent half my life trying to get out of town but the city limits are chasing me.

18 posted on 06/12/2012 5:45:35 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: smokingfrog

Take two frogs to a lab. Have one lay eggs, have the other, well, however it takes place, fertilize the eggs. Don’t monkey with the eggs, and later turn the pollywogs loose. Sheesh, even a prepubescent boy can figure that one out.


19 posted on 06/12/2012 5:46:06 PM PDT by healy61
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To: smokingfrog
They stole the guy's property under color of law.

That's a hanging offense.

20 posted on 06/12/2012 5:47:23 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Sure did. The old UZ1 still works although the viewfinder only shows black and white now.

That was the first superzoom. The lens is a Canon, the optics are superb.

21 posted on 06/12/2012 5:49:33 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: healy61

They need soil conditions suitable for burrows.


22 posted on 06/12/2012 5:51:49 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: smokingfrog

I see no reason to spend money or effort to protect a species that cannot adapt to the industrialized world. If it cannot survive on its own we do not need it.


23 posted on 06/12/2012 5:59:17 PM PDT by Woodsman27
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To: smokingfrog

Great; use a “cool” fire, hickory stick, with bark still on, and a shake or two of Zaterain’s....;-)


24 posted on 06/12/2012 6:11:33 PM PDT by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
Here is a photo of a pair of broadheaded skinks I found on my patio one night after work last month.

Just a little Canon point and shoot, but digital cameras these days are pretty amazing, even the cheap ones. I have four Canons with CHDK on them. I use it to capture RAW files, do some HDR photos, and to do some time-lapse photography.

25 posted on 06/12/2012 6:14:28 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Poitevent sounds like he’s not going to back down.

Edward Poitevent is of counsel in the New Orleans office of Baker Donelson Bearman Caldwell & Berkowitz, PC. His practice focuses on all phases of domestic and international energy/mineral law and natural resources law.


26 posted on 06/12/2012 6:15:04 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I’d reply with a photo of a pair of skinkheaded broads I met in the pub last week, but propriety forbids it.


27 posted on 06/12/2012 6:33:42 PM PDT by Humble Servant
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To: smokingfrog
I hope he can stop them.

Somebody has to.

28 posted on 06/12/2012 6:36:37 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: smokingfrog

Cute little bugger (the frog, not Mr Poitevent). Were I he (Mr Poitevent, not the frog) I would begin taking extended walks about my property carrying a frog skewer.


29 posted on 06/12/2012 7:26:12 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (The instinct toward liberalism is located in the part of the brain called the rectal lobe.)
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To: smokingfrog

Because of course animals are more important than people.


30 posted on 06/12/2012 10:23:24 PM PDT by Crucial (Tolerance at the expense of equal treatment is the path to tyranny.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Cameras really are getting better. I still like to play with the old ones but they are a lot of hassle.


31 posted on 06/13/2012 2:05:40 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

These frogs may be beneficial, but does the FedGov really have to steal hundreds of acres of a private citizen’s land to protect them?


32 posted on 06/13/2012 2:34:46 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: smokingfrog
If you own timber, and the area is designated critical habitat, you will likely never get to harvest that timber so long as you are saddled with that designation. Imagine millions of dollars worth of trees rotting on the root, and you can't cut any of them down because of a frog. But you still have to pay taxes on your land, or lose it.

Agenda 21 continues...

33 posted on 06/13/2012 10:54:01 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

I fully understand that some critters are necessary to the way things work in the boonies. However, half of the land they want to designate as critical habitat is already Federal or State owned. The frogs would likely survive many uses of the private land, including timbering operations, although it is likely a few would get killed. Not every one of those frogs would have missed out on being part of the food chain anyway. Let the Government decide what it will do with the land it already has in its possession, and let the rest on private land be strictly voluntary.


34 posted on 06/13/2012 11:05:57 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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