Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Washington Post: Remember that Mormon massacre?
Washington Examiner ^ | May 20, 2012 | Charlie Spiering

Posted on 06/12/2012 9:45:20 PM PDT by WilliamIII

The Washington Post published a story last night examining a massacre carried out by Mormons nearly 200 years ago, and examines whether or not it will affect Mitt Romney's support in the deep South.

"On Sept. 11, 1857, a wagon train from this part of Arkansas met with a gruesome fate in Utah, where most of the travelers were slaughtered by a Mormon militia in an episode known as the Mountain Meadows Massacre. Hundreds of the victims’ descendants still populate these hills and commemorate the killings, which they have come to call “the first 9/11.” "

So why is the Post examining old Mormon history?

... After reporting the details of the massacre, writer Sandhya Somashekhar concludes that "none of that history, including the massacre, may make much of a difference in the polls."

(Excerpt) Read more at campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: lds; mormon; mountainmeadows
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-56 next last

1 posted on 06/12/2012 9:45:25 PM PDT by WilliamIII
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: WilliamIII

I thought blaming all of the world’s troubles on President Bush was goofy but blaming Romney for the Mountain Meadows Massacre is REALLY over the top. People need to lighten up on the recreational drugs.


2 posted on 06/12/2012 9:50:45 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Free Stuff or Freedom! You Decide 2012.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: WilliamIII

Here we go!


3 posted on 06/12/2012 9:52:26 PM PDT by Rennes Templar (No matter how cynical you get, it's never enough to keep up.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: FlingWingFlyer

It’s the Washington Post.
Consider the source.


4 posted on 06/12/2012 9:55:21 PM PDT by WilliamIII
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: FlingWingFlyer

They can dig this stuff up, but cannot seem to dig up a damn thing about Obie. Amazing!!!


5 posted on 06/12/2012 9:55:27 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: WilliamIII

President Obama claims to be half-white and a Christian - they had slaves!!


6 posted on 06/12/2012 9:55:51 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: WilliamIII

I can see it now. “Mormanism Is a Made Up Cult” as a headline on Friday before the Tuesday election. Spare us, we know.


7 posted on 06/12/2012 9:56:30 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: WilliamIII

Out of control government killed over 100 million people in the 20th Century.

I wonder how that will impact 0bama’s support?


8 posted on 06/12/2012 9:58:47 PM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Rennes Templar

Indeed. This and every single bit of dirty laundry they can dig out on Mormons is going to be plastered over every MSM new outlet in the run up to the election.

I saw this coming a long while back. In fact, I am convinced that one of the reasons the Democrats wanted Mitt as the nominee is because they planned on using his Mormon belief against him — along with other things, of course.

Will it work? Don’t know. However, i do know we are all going to learn things about the Mormon church that we never knew, and that most Mormons never knew, either.


9 posted on 06/12/2012 9:58:47 PM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: WilliamIII

Out of control government killed over 100 million people in the 20th Century.

I wonder how that will impact 0bama’s support?


10 posted on 06/12/2012 9:59:23 PM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Rennes Templar

Well that settles it...I’m switching to Obama.


11 posted on 06/12/2012 10:09:14 PM PDT by des
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: WilliamIII
The Washington Post published a story last night examining a massacre carried out by Mormons nearly 200 years ago,

Since when is 155 years rounded up to 200?

It must be the new method, like when the media rounds Palin's 32 months of being Governor down to "2 years" or "her half term".

12 posted on 06/12/2012 10:10:27 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP now goes for it's Presidential candidates.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: WilliamIII

hmmm, and yet I wonder. How does the Mormom religion stack up against the saintly black liberation theology....

With the new numbers out today and the mind numbing amounts, I give a rats a** about Mitt’s religion.


13 posted on 06/12/2012 10:11:21 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 (Fluck this adminstration of misfits.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: WilliamIII
"writer Sandhya Somashekhar"

Is that an Amish name? Baptist? Methodist? Catholic? Quaker?

14 posted on 06/12/2012 10:17:42 PM PDT by tdscpa
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: WilliamIII

Wow. The economy is doing fine.

Obama’s ancestors on one side are related to the folks that dropped the atomic bombs on Japan in WWII some nearly hundred years later. This could cost him the election.


15 posted on 06/12/2012 10:19:58 PM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Comment #16 Removed by Moderator

To: dead

Arab slave traders on the East coast of Africa which includes today’s Kenya, Tanzania, and Mozambique traded, bartered and sold blacks into slavery.

If you use the same logic of the New York Times relative to Romney and a 200 year old murder of innocents, then Obama is also guilty of the acts of slavery committed by his 50% Muslim heritage.


17 posted on 06/12/2012 10:30:48 PM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: WilliamIII

This desperately over-reaching article is beyond pathetic. Dredging up the Mountain Meadow Massacre of EIGHTEEN-FRIGGIN’-FIFTY-SEVEN and suggesting that ultra-conservative Arkansans might hold it against Romney? This is dirt-digging with a vengeance, Cloud-Cuckoo-Land political analysis. It may be an issue for a few throwbacks in the back of beyond but it is not even a state-wide concern, let alone something for a national campaign to fret over. Beyond that, the implication that the descendants would continue to blame an entire religion, rather than the long-dead perpetrators, is a condescending insult to the Ozark hill people.


18 posted on 06/12/2012 10:32:26 PM PDT by atomic conspiracy (Victory in Iraq: Worst defeat for activist media since Goebbels shot himself.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: WilliamIII

Some say that anyone who works for the Washington Post is a pedophile.


19 posted on 06/12/2012 10:33:24 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: WilliamIII
...Hundreds of the victims’ descendants still populate these hills and commemorate the killings, which they have come to call “the first 9/11.” "

Mark Twain wrote in the Appendix B his book "Roughing It":

The men were almost all shot down at the first fire from the guard. Two only escaped, who fled to the desert, and were followed one hundred and fifty miles before they were overtaken and slaughtered. The women and children ran on, two or three hundred yards further, when they were overtaken and with the aid of the Indians they were slaughtered. Seventeen individuals only, of all the emigrant party, were spared, and they were little children, the eldest of them being only seven years old. Thus, on the 10th day of September, 1857, was consummated one of the most cruel, cowardly and bloody murders known in our history."

The number of persons butchered by the Mormons on this occasion was one hundred and twenty.


20 posted on 06/12/2012 10:35:47 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: cpdiii

CORRECTION!

Washington Post, not the New York Times.


21 posted on 06/12/2012 10:38:03 PM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: Ronin

“I am convinced that one of the reasons the Democrats wanted Mitt as the nominee is because they planned on using his Mormon belief against him — along with other things, of course”

Spot on. They always politic for the weakest Stupid Party candidate.


22 posted on 06/12/2012 11:16:44 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: WilliamIII

Was Romney involved ? :)


23 posted on 06/12/2012 11:17:29 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: WilliamIII
What say that famous Mormon from Searchlight Nevada, Harry Reid?
24 posted on 06/12/2012 11:24:38 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The only good Zombie is a dead Zombie, oh wait...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: WilliamIII
.After reporting the details of the [155 year old] massacre, writer Sandhya Somashekhar [of The Washington Post] concludes that "none of that history, including the massacre, may make much of a difference in the polls."


25 posted on 06/12/2012 11:27:17 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: tumblindice

Dude, get a grip. This is Free Republic, and this crap doesn’t belong here.


26 posted on 06/12/2012 11:38:27 PM PDT by umbagi (ABO, y'all)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: WilliamIII

I thought the lamestream media would bring this up for an “October surprise”?


27 posted on 06/12/2012 11:43:01 PM PDT by ReformationFan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: antceecee
They can dig this stuff up, but cannot seem to dig up a damn thing about Obie. Amazing!!!

Not only do they not dig, but they refuse to even ASK simple questions. Like "Hey Mr. President, why won't you release your college records?:

28 posted on 06/13/2012 1:43:30 AM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: WilliamIII
Years from now people will be saying, "Remember that Mormon massacre on November 6, 2012?"
29 posted on 06/13/2012 1:50:42 AM PDT by Daaave ("You see, but you do not observe." S. Holmes)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: des

lolol


30 posted on 06/13/2012 2:21:14 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 (How's that change treatin ya now?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: AAABEST

This was before the Civil War! Yea Gods! Can’t you get something newer? Look at how Mormons were treated! The killings! No wonder they became paranoid!


31 posted on 06/13/2012 2:47:35 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: WilliamIII

Well our president has a Kenyan heritage....where is the article on the Mau Mau killings?


32 posted on 06/13/2012 3:22:59 AM PDT by databoss
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: WilliamIII
And how many millions of people have been massacred for Marxism, Obama's apparent religion?

Is the WaPo indicting religions for massacres? Do they really want to go there?

33 posted on 06/13/2012 3:29:42 AM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: WilliamIII

It will stick to Mr. RomneyCARE as this played
endlessly (with two new movies?) in October.


34 posted on 06/13/2012 3:43:16 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: WilliamIII

Washington Post?
You mean the Democrat Post Gazette?


35 posted on 06/13/2012 3:49:56 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: WilliamIII
The Mau-Mau did some truly ghastly things, the movement became a verb, to Mau-mau. Obama's father was at least a Mau-mau fellow traveler. Wonder how that will affect the election?

My great-great-grandfather was a police captain in New York during the Civil War, and fought Irish mobs during the July riots. He harbored deep anti-Catholic sentiments which he passed down to my grandfather. Who married an Irish immigrant, and whose grandchildren were raised Catholic.

The Civil War riots were in 1863 and my grandfather died in 1958. How are the Civil War riots, in which many more people were killed than in the Mountain Meadow Massacre and much more recently, going to affect the election? I do not care to identify myself with the party whose antecedents have been rum, Romanism, and rebellion.

36 posted on 06/13/2012 4:29:15 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The Democratic Party strongly supports full civil rights for necro-Americans!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Forward the Light Brigade; All

I don’t approve in what they did, but they where treated like s**t..


37 posted on 06/13/2012 4:59:26 AM PDT by KevinDavis (In order for the human race to survive, Space is the final frontier.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: WilliamIII
I'm sure this will warm the cockles of the hearts of the few (thankfully) HATE-ROMNEY-MORMONS, Freeps who keep trying to scare us into believing that Mittens is TEN TIMES worst and TEN TIMES more dangerous than the Fascist, Neo-Commie, Islamic-Jihadist-Appeasing/Supporting, Dear Leader.

Heck there are even some who equate voting for Mitt as being "Anti-Christian."

Right!!!

38 posted on 06/13/2012 5:24:41 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet (l)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: WilliamIII

save for later


39 posted on 06/13/2012 5:27:01 AM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: WilliamIII

Remember when Bill Ayers, Barack’s best friend, tried to blow up the Pentagon?


40 posted on 06/13/2012 5:27:37 AM PDT by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: WilliamIII

Remember when Jeremiah Wright, Barack’s “spiritual advisor” for over twenty years, told his congregation to “God Damn America!!”?


41 posted on 06/13/2012 5:29:31 AM PDT by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Ronin

“Will it work?”

I’m thinking they just can’t do too much with this because of Harry Reid. And Mitt should remind them all the time that Reid has always been a Mormon - the double standard should be glaring.


42 posted on 06/13/2012 6:18:38 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (No matter how cynical you get, it's never enough to keep up.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: FlingWingFlyer
Yeah!

I challenge anybody to show me a spotless family tree. No doubt most of us have the blood of murderers, rapists, & thieves running in our veins.

IIRC, Kenya was a major slave trading area. Perhaps we should talk about that. Or, we could talk about Africa's long history of bloody tribal wars, cannibalism, polygamy, & brutal dictatorships/monarchies, most of which continues today.

43 posted on 06/13/2012 6:20:00 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: WilliamIII
Hmmmm....I remember the Waco Massacre - and the filthy criminals who carried it out are still walking around free. Some even got medals for it.

I also remember the 9/11 Massacre. As of this writing, our tax dollars are now being used to provide aid and comfort the muslim terrorist organizations that carried it out, while our own Freedoms have been curtailed and the Constitution shredded.

Maybe the WaPo will actually report on current news, or do we have to wait a century and a half for that?

44 posted on 06/13/2012 6:31:40 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (Goode or Evil, that's the choice.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: WilliamIII

That was a bloody era. There were attacks by all faiths on other faiths. In the late 1700s, some Baptists burned an convent in New England, killing several nuns and children. The Catholic versus Protestant violence erupted all throughout the New York area. And let’s not even go into how Jewish or Chinese Buddhist immigrants were treated by some groups in the early 1800s.

It was a violent time, but if we hold someone of today responsible for what happened then, we will be holding a big weight of responsibility on our own shoulders as well if we set that standard.


45 posted on 06/13/2012 6:40:28 AM PDT by mnehring
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: WilliamIII

..don’t forget to mention the Haun’s Mill massacre of 1838, the the Missouri militia 147 Mormon settlers including children.

Like I said before, it was violent times.


46 posted on 06/13/2012 6:49:58 AM PDT by mnehring
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: WilliamIII

Do not be surprised when the move “September Dawn” gets theatrical re-release this Fall. It’s Hollywood’s take on the Mountain Meadows Massacre and it is very harsh on Mormons.


47 posted on 06/13/2012 7:21:12 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Not Romney - Not ever!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: higgmeister
The Sand Creek Massacre in Colorado Territory in 1864 may have killed more people--and it was led by a Methodist minister (Hillary's church).

I wouldn't be surprised if next October Obama comes to the site of the Mountain Meadows Massacre and makes a speech about the massacre, to make sure everyone in America has heard of it.

If Romney wins, this event will suddenly get a lot more play in US history textbooks. Clearly it deserves more attention than any of the other events of the 1850s (Compromise of 1850, Gadsden Purchase, publication of Uncle Tom's Cabin, the creation of the Republican Party, Bleeding Kansas, the Dred Scott decision, the Lincoln-Douglas debates, John Brown's raid).

48 posted on 06/13/2012 7:59:50 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: mnehring

My great-grandmother’s future brother-in-law went on a wagon train to Salt Lake City in 1865 and as an old man many years later wrote or dictated his recollections of the trip and of Salt Lake City. He was not a Mormon but seemed to have a generally favorable attitude towards what he witnessed. He went to some of their meetings but didn’t tell anyone that he was from Missouri—”if I had told them I was from Missouri, my hide wouldn’t have been worth shucks.”


49 posted on 06/13/2012 8:07:11 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies]

To: tdscpa
"writer Sandhya Somashekhar"

Is that an Amish name? Baptist? Methodist? Catholic? Quaker?

I'm guessing Presbyterian. Name was originally McSomashekhar but they dropped the "Mc" because the name was too long.

50 posted on 06/13/2012 8:12:45 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-56 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson