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Grand jury to get case of Texas dad who beat alleged child molester to death
Fox News ^ | June 12, 2012 | Joshua Rhett Miller

Posted on 06/13/2012 6:01:37 AM PDT by Texas Fossil

A Texas prosecutor said the case of a rancher who beat to death a man he caught allegedly molesting his daughter will go to a grand jury to decide whether the killing was justified, or an act of excessive force.

The father, whose name has not been released by authorities, claims he caught the man trying to molest his 4-year-old daughter on his ranch Saturday. Although Lavaca County Sheriff Micah Harmon said the girl’s father is unlikely to be arrested, District Attorney Heather McMinn told FoxNews.com the case remains under investigation and that the Texas Rangers have joined the probe.

“Once completed, [results of the investigation] will be forwarded to the district attorney’s office and it will be taken to a grand jury,” McMinn told FoxNews.com. “They’re still investigating what happened at this point.”

The grand jury will ultimately decide what charges -- if any -- the girl’s father will face, McMinn said.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/06/12/texas-district-attorney-to-present-beating-death-case-to-grand-jury-after-probe/#ixzz1xg4AnrWN

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: grandjury; lavacacounty; molestation; texas
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James Harrington, director of the Texas Civil Rights Project, an Austin-based nonprofit group, questioned the father’s decision to “summarily execute” the alleged molester without due process.

Why is it necessary for Fox New to involve idiots at some Austin Non-profit group? I have total confidence in the Texas Rangers finding the facts and the grand jury delivering a no-bill.

1 posted on 06/13/2012 6:01:53 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

“District Attorney Heather McMinn”

Why do I have an ‘uncomfortable feeling’ about that name? I hope I’m wrong, but Angela Corey comes to mind, right away. Sorry; can’t help it after yesterday’s GZ/SZ persecution stories.


2 posted on 06/13/2012 6:07:39 AM PDT by carriage_hill (All libs & most dems think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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To: carriage_hill

UCMJ Opening statement: “Bring the guilty b****d forward for a fair trial.”

Corollary for TX Grand Jury: “Bring the innocent father forward for a fair trial.”


3 posted on 06/13/2012 6:13:25 AM PDT by Makana
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To: carriage_hill

http://seguingazette.com/news/article_18caca60-1e87-11e1-bc65-001871e3ce6c.html

McMinn seeking another term as district attorney

Do you think it is possible she is grand standing before the election?


4 posted on 06/13/2012 6:15:23 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Texas Fossil

Should be a matter of about 30 seconds to declare this killing “justifiable homicide.” The father should be nominated for the Medal of Freedom.


5 posted on 06/13/2012 6:16:37 AM PDT by Sudetenland (Member of the BBB Club - Bye-Bye-Barry!!!)
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To: Texas Fossil

James Harrington, director of the Texas Civil Rights Project, an Austin-based nonprofit group, questioned the father’s decision to “summarily execute” the alleged molester without due process.


Duh. It wasn’t an execution. It was a lawful use of deadly force to prevent the crime of rape from being committed on a 4 year old girl.


6 posted on 06/13/2012 6:18:13 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Makana

With so many POS-libs running things in Austin & Houston et al, I am thinking Texas is becoming more and more corrupted/liberal, despite all the friends and family I have in that great state. Hope I’m wrong and he walks, quickly.


7 posted on 06/13/2012 6:19:09 AM PDT by carriage_hill (All libs & most dems think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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To: Texas Fossil

Sure sounds like a ‘re-election ad’ in the works, to me, TF.


8 posted on 06/13/2012 6:22:29 AM PDT by carriage_hill (All libs & most dems think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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To: Texas Fossil

It was an llegal alien. That’s why they are going to this trouble.


9 posted on 06/13/2012 6:24:28 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: carriage_hill

Now GZ’s wife may serve 5 yrs. This whole case is going to hell in a hand basket..


10 posted on 06/13/2012 6:27:37 AM PDT by goseminoles
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To: Texas Fossil

If I were on the jury and the evidence was exactly as stated in the article it would be the quickest jury deliberation ever for me.

If there was some stuipid law that they were accusing this man of who defended his daughter from the molester he killed I would be pushing for jury nullification of it besides pushing a nonguilty verdict.

Child molesters are ALWAYS sociopath type people who put the P in Predator Perverts. This predation aspect is a very dangerous thing as they seem to lack any sort of remorse and are usually repeat offenders.

I would say that the father could always claim the “mammal protecting it’s offspring defense”, as you NEVER WANT TO GET BETWEEN ANY MAMMAL AND IT’S OFFSPRING. Growing up on a farm I can tell you the good lord made all warmblooded animals more protective of their children than even themselves!


11 posted on 06/13/2012 6:37:26 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: goseminoles

[Now GZ’s wife may serve 5 yrs. This whole case is going to hell in a hand basket.. ]

THAT IS INSANE! When the law is used against good men and women the system is completely broken! Especially when the multitude of laws are so plentiful and nebulous that they can be enforced selectively leading to their usage as political tools.


12 posted on 06/13/2012 6:42:44 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Texas Fossil

Lavaca County, the molester was more than likely an illegal alien..


13 posted on 06/13/2012 6:45:33 AM PDT by richardtavor
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To: goseminoles

Oh boy. And the racists/race-baiters are trying to get the ‘stand your ground/castle doctrine’ laws overturned/revised etc. This isn’t going to end well, for any of us.


14 posted on 06/13/2012 7:02:41 AM PDT by carriage_hill (All libs & most dems think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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To: carriage_hill

This isn’t even a stand your ground case. I hope Gov Scott realizes this..


15 posted on 06/13/2012 7:06:14 AM PDT by goseminoles
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To: Texas Fossil; All

Our local talk radio folks have been giving this a LOT of time on air...

Discussions ranging from erecting a statue, have a parade, a holoday in the name of this father who defended his daughter have been put on the table...

Personally, I am not a father, but if I witnessed a person, regardless of sex, creed, color of their skin, sexual orientation, religion, whatever...

That is a dead person who was in an upright position only a nanosecond before I get done with them...That is not a threat, that is a promise...

God and I will have a discussion on the issue and my actions later...

Texas Penal code does afford the use of deadly force to stop a person(s) from continuing their criminal act upon a minor (child)...


16 posted on 06/13/2012 7:19:46 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: goseminoles

They’re certainly going to take it to that point:

http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/01/justice/florida-stand-your-ground/index.html?iid=article_sidebar


17 posted on 06/13/2012 7:24:16 AM PDT by carriage_hill (All libs & most dems think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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To: Texas Fossil; All

BTW, the Texas Civil Rights Project can go pound sand...

The civil rights of the little girl come first before the person (scumbag) was beaten to death to stop the attack from continuing...

I would say letting them (TCRP) needs to be called and reminded of that fact...There is no equality or demoting of the little girls rights in this case...

There was also a question to who the scumbag was, in relation to their status in this country, IIRC...That right there has been summarily left out of the media accounts of this incident...

I wonder why??? hmmmmmmm...


18 posted on 06/13/2012 7:24:32 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: Texas Fossil

besides the molestation, was there a crime committed?


19 posted on 06/13/2012 7:26:47 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: GraceG

Lester and Corey are extorting GZ for a lesser plea.


20 posted on 06/13/2012 7:29:14 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: longfellow

Not IMHO. My kids are grown now. Had anything like that happened to them as children I’d have done the exact same thing. The phrase “beaten to a pulp” comes to mind. Would have needed DNA to ID the pervert, not even dental records would do.


21 posted on 06/13/2012 7:46:01 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: longfellow

Not IMHO. My kids are grown now. Had anything like that happened to them as children I’d have done the exact same thing. The phrase “beaten to a pulp” comes to mind. Would have needed DNA to ID the pervert, not even dental records would do.


22 posted on 06/13/2012 7:46:26 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Texas Fossil
I would vote to acquit. No matter how much the judge threatened me.

Civilization is built on many things, but at the core is you protect your kids. I admire this father's restraint.

23 posted on 06/13/2012 7:55:56 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Texas Fossil

Anyone who did that to my child find themselves without any equipment to do that kind of evil ever again. Courtesy of my rage.

It used to be that society took care of the fetid cancers in their midst.


24 posted on 06/13/2012 7:56:25 AM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! REMEMBER NEDA)
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To: Sudetenland
Should be a matter of about 30 seconds to declare this killing “justifiable homicide.” The father should be nominated for the Medal of Freedom.

I agree. The little girl was only 4 years old. If he'd had sex with her, it could have killed her. She would have had serious internal injuries. The father saved her life.

25 posted on 06/13/2012 8:02:38 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Texas Fossil

At first, I assumed the dad was in the right. Upon reflection, since the accused would-be molester is dead, and originally I read he was caught in the act, I have my doubts. Was the guy in the process of molesting the child or not?


26 posted on 06/13/2012 8:04:45 AM PDT by PghBaldy (I eagerly await the next news about the struggles of Elizabeth Sacheen Littlefeather Warren.)
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To: Texas Fossil

I would have done the same and damn the consequences.


27 posted on 06/13/2012 8:05:27 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: carriage_hill
Why do I have an ‘uncomfortable feeling’ about that name?


Heather McMinn District Attorney for Guadalupe, Gonzales and Lavaca Counties

Endorsed by:
Arnold Zwicke — Guadalupe County Sheriff
Glen Sachtleben — Gonzales County Sheriff
Micah Harmon — Lavaca County Sheriff

Heather McMinn has been the DA since 2009 and won the GOP primary for that position in May.

28 posted on 06/13/2012 8:07:01 AM PDT by deport
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To: deport

GOP-e RINO or Conservative, I’m wondering. Those 3 guys look like Conservatives, but looks alone can be deceiving. I’ll wait to see how she plays-it-out, legally. I hope I’m wrong, the GJ refuses to indict, and he walks, quickly. The father deserves a *medal* for killing that POS molester, IMO.


29 posted on 06/13/2012 8:13:13 AM PDT by carriage_hill (All libs & most dems think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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To: AppyPappy

Correct. They are protecting political correctness.


30 posted on 06/13/2012 8:15:53 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: carriage_hill

That is possible.

And I read elsewhere that she was sued for another action related to the death of a child. Jury found her not guilty, but she probably does not want that mess again.


31 posted on 06/13/2012 8:19:00 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Texas Fossil

The headline should read “....dad who allegedly beat child molestor” instead of “.....dad who beat alledged child molestor”.


32 posted on 06/13/2012 8:20:32 AM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." - Peter Grifin, FAMILY GUY)
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To: carriage_hill
I know nothing about them either, but I suspect they/she are playing it safe and hoping to diffuse any claims of legal leniency. There is much we don't know yet such as what the medical examination contains of the girl or deceased. I personally don't see a railroad job, but I don't know that either.
33 posted on 06/13/2012 8:22:11 AM PDT by deport
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To: Texas Fossil

I hope they find the two were fighting and one major blow killed the perp. It would be bothersome if the dad knocked him unconscious and then kept pummeling him until he died.


34 posted on 06/13/2012 8:22:18 AM PDT by doug from upland (Just in case, it has been reserved: www.TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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To: longfellow

From what I have read, NO.

I restate: I have total confidence that the Texas Ranger investigation will reveal the facts in the case.


35 posted on 06/13/2012 8:23:22 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Sudetenland

Should be a matter of about 30 seconds to declare this killing “justifiable homicide.” The father should be nominated for the Medal of Freedom.


And, a Nobel Peace Prize. He’s certainly more deserving than that loser occupying the WH.


36 posted on 06/13/2012 8:27:55 AM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the Statist)
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To: deport

I agree.

Law enforcement in Texas is generally pretty sane. Especially in rural areas of TX.

The case has taken on a national interest because of the coverage. She is probably acting defensively as you suggested.


37 posted on 06/13/2012 8:28:37 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: deport; Texas Fossil

Time will tell all the details, in this case.


38 posted on 06/13/2012 8:30:46 AM PDT by carriage_hill (All libs & most dems think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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To: doug from upland

A lot we don’t know at this point that at some time we’ll hopefully know. The medical examination of the girl and deceased will provide some answers.


39 posted on 06/13/2012 8:30:50 AM PDT by deport
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To: doug from upland

In my opinion, it would make no difference.

If he was molesting the child and the father saw it, I cannot see a grand jury true billing the father under any circumstances. I am not totally sure he only used his hands. That has gone unsaid. One article mentioned hitting him on top of the head.


40 posted on 06/13/2012 8:32:43 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Texas Fossil

This is a good move, and what should have been done in the Zimmerman case.


41 posted on 06/13/2012 8:34:44 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: Jedidah

Yes, I agree. Quickly determine the facts and disarm the bomb the left would like to make of this.

The Texas Rangers are “no bull” guys. They will determine the facts and this will be quickly resolved.


42 posted on 06/13/2012 8:37:04 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Texas Fossil

I agree that the perp should no long waste oxygen, but it does make a difference to me if he was beaten to death after lying there unconscious.


43 posted on 06/13/2012 8:43:10 AM PDT by doug from upland (Just in case, it has been reserved: www.TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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To: Texas Fossil

Grand jury to get case of Texas dad who beat alleged child molester to death


So the child molester is “alleged” but the Texas dad is...already guilty? I do not know every detail of the case - did he confess? If not, why is he not also “alleged”?


44 posted on 06/13/2012 8:52:56 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Behind enemy lines in the city where it's illegal to buy a Big Gulp)
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To: Texas Fossil

In other parts of the country, I think this Grand Jury would properly be called a “BBQ kegger”, with the father the guest of honor. And rightfully so.


45 posted on 06/13/2012 9:41:14 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Good luck finding anywhere else in America that is more conservative or country than Shiner, TX.


46 posted on 06/13/2012 11:02:55 AM PDT by Eaker (When somebody hands you your arse, don't give it back saying "This needs a little more tenderizing.")
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To: doug from upland
...but it does make a difference to me if he was beaten to death after lying there unconscious.

Not to me! Why leave him around to molest some other child. The dead don't molest, can't sue, don't run up hospital bills, eat food or use up valuable oxygen.

47 posted on 06/13/2012 12:03:16 PM PDT by Tonytitan
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To: Eaker

Well, you have to be over 21 to consume alcohol in Lavaca County, so they’ll have to card the grand jurors before the BBQ/kegger. At least it’s not a dry county.


48 posted on 06/13/2012 12:12:55 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: stevie_d_64

Just put an *A* between the *R* and the *P* and you will get a acurate title for this “civil rights” group.


49 posted on 06/13/2012 12:27:17 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: GraceG

The term “civil rights” have come to mean that some people are more valuable than others.


50 posted on 06/13/2012 12:30:10 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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