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Gang wars at the root of Chicago's high murder rate
CBS News ^ | June 12, 2012 | Dean Reynolds

Posted on 06/13/2012 6:34:33 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012

(CBS News) There are 228 dead: That's the number of murders this year in Chicago. It's nearly twice as many as the number of Americans lost on the battlefields of Afghanistan over these last six months. And the number of deaths is up 35 percent over the same period last year.

There was a time it was called "gangland" Chicago and maybe that time has returned.

Chicago teen on living amid violence: "I don't expect to have a future here"

The cops tell us it's the gang members who have turned some neighborhoods into free-fire zones. More people were cut down today.

Across Chicago, nine people were killed between Friday and Sunday, and two more were gunned down just hours ago - a murder rate of two a day.

"It's tragic," Pastor Robin Hood told CBS News. "This is like Beirut was in the 70s. It's war."

Hood lives in Chicago's North Lawndale neighborhood, where three of the victims were killed.

"People are scared to come outdoors," Hood explains. "They're scared for their kids to sit on the porches and play in the playground. It's total fear."

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: blackcrime; blackviolence; democrats; gunfreezone

1 posted on 06/13/2012 6:34:38 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

We will soon be told that if we would just put more money into solving these problems, things would improve.


2 posted on 06/13/2012 6:38:29 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: NEMDF

The article doesn’t mention the breakdown of the black family. I would think that has made the problems worse.


3 posted on 06/13/2012 6:41:18 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

I’ve said it for years: kill a known gang member on sight and you save multiple innocent lives.


4 posted on 06/13/2012 6:42:34 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Gang wars? who knew?

Where is captain obvious when you need him?


5 posted on 06/13/2012 6:44:23 AM PDT by cableguymn (If your policies are pushing the economy in to headwinds.. TURN YOUR POLICY AROUND!)
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To: ilovesarah2012
Better they kill one another than one of them kill one of my family members or anyone else for that matter..
6 posted on 06/13/2012 6:46:59 AM PDT by PLD
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To: ilovesarah2012

The “root” is not what they’re claiming.
Gangs didn’t propagate out of the natural laws of the universe.

Gangs form because the family structure, ie, FATHERS IN THE HOME, was destroyed by the liberal welfare system, PURPOSEFULLY.


7 posted on 06/13/2012 6:48:03 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: PLD

Innocent adults and children are being hit in the crossfire. Sad this can happen in America.


8 posted on 06/13/2012 6:49:11 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: PLD

Innocent adults and children are being hit in the crossfire. Sad this can happen in America.


9 posted on 06/13/2012 6:49:14 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: PLD

Innocent adults and children are being hit in the crossfire. Sad this can happen in America.


10 posted on 06/13/2012 6:49:14 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

Here’s a solution:

1.) Place a $500 bounty on any known gang member. Bring in an arm with a Four Corner Hustler or Latin King tatto and get a no questions asked debit card. Personally I’d double it to $1,000 if it was one of those stupid neck tattoos.

2.) Open the National Guard Armory to any honest citizen with a clean record who lives in one of these neighborhoods. Hand them a Remington 870 and 50 rounds of buckshot or an M4 and 5 full magazines.

3.) Tell the recipients of these weapons that the bounties are doubled.

Here’s the dirty little secret about the killing that’s happening in Chicago. EVERYONE knows who’s doing it. EVERYONE knows where they live. But because it’s only happening in “those” neighborhoods to “those” people, nobody gives a damn.

Once the violence spreads to Hyde Park, the Gold Coast, or the North Shore you’ll see a crackdown like you won’t believe. If it stays localized in Lawndale it’ll go on and on and on and on....


11 posted on 06/13/2012 6:57:25 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

The article does not mention whether if they are black, white, Asian, or whatever. I think you may be jumping to conclusions.


12 posted on 06/13/2012 6:58:56 AM PDT by MNDude ( Victimhood is the Holy Grail of liberalism)
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To: MNDude

I saw it on CBS last night. I am not jumping to conclusions.


13 posted on 06/13/2012 7:02:04 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

chicagotribune.com

Victim: ‘They were enjoying frightening people’
Mob attacks wound Streeterville’s sense of security

John Kass

June 13, 2012

All the young doctor wanted to do was walk home from the hospital after work to his wife and child.

That walk, one he’s taken for years, takes him through the quiet and wealthy Streeterville neighborhood.

“It’s only four blocks from the hospital to my home,” the 36-year-old doctor told me. “But now I have to take a cab. Do you believe it? A cab for four blocks? I’m never going to walk it again, not after what happened to me Sunday night.”

He works at Northwestern Memorial Hospital as an attending physician. After work on Sunday, close to 10 p.m., he began his walk home, and along the way became a victim.

He crossed Chicago Avenue, then went north on the pathway through the park, past the people playing tennis on the courts to his right, then out to Dewitt Place.

“I saw the mob of them ... young teenagers, tweeners between 13 and 15 years old, like young kids you’d see at the mall,” the doctor said. “The thing I remember clearly was that they were enjoying frightening people. They went after a food delivery man on a bike. Then they went after me. It was like ‘Lord of the Flies.’

“And then they hit me with something, a hard blunt object on the back of the head, and I went down,” the doctor said.

Taken back to the hospital, he received treatment for facial wounds and received three deep stitches.

“My wife’s upset,” he said. “There was blood, but it could have been worse.”...

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/ct-met-kass-0613-20120613,0,5899407,print.column


14 posted on 06/13/2012 7:03:56 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Lurker

Here’s a cheaper solution: Stop paying women to have babies out of wedlock.


15 posted on 06/13/2012 7:09:09 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: ilovesarah2012

“I believe myself that the secretary of state, secretary of defense and — you have to make your own decisions as to what the president knows — (know) this war is lost and the surge is not accomplishing anything as indicated by the extreme violence in Chicago yesterday,” said Reid.


16 posted on 06/13/2012 7:11:40 AM PDT by oncebitten (Obama: couldnÂ’t get a clue if he were covered in clue musk and standing in a field of horny clues.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Mogadishu with a lake.


17 posted on 06/13/2012 7:15:44 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: ilovesarah2012

“Gangs”...another way to say “Obama’s base.”


18 posted on 06/13/2012 7:15:53 AM PDT by RavenATB ("Destroy the family and you destroy the country!" ~Vladimir Lenin)
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To: ilovesarah2012

What liberals have done to the black family is despicable. It should outrage everyone to see John Lewis and the black caucus lauded as heroes.


19 posted on 06/13/2012 7:19:46 AM PDT by Baynative (REMEMBER: Without America there is no free world!)
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To: ilovesarah2012

This is what happens when you try to live with and ignore evil. It is a cancer.


20 posted on 06/13/2012 7:20:17 AM PDT by vpintheak (Occupy your Brain!)
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To: KeyLargo; Condor51

CW2 coming soon to a neighborhood near you.


21 posted on 06/13/2012 7:21:07 AM PDT by TheRightGuy (I want MY BAILOUT ... a billion or two should do!)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Gangs are a problem in Chicago?

Don’t they teach prosecutors how to use RICO laws anymore?


22 posted on 06/13/2012 7:21:47 AM PDT by RavenATB ("Destroy the family and you destroy the country!" ~Vladimir Lenin)
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To: ilovesarah2012
Gang wars at the root of Chicago's high murder rate

And?

I just love the euphemisms that are used for black/ethnic crime.

23 posted on 06/13/2012 7:24:01 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: ilovesarah2012
It's interesting to see how the media is so willing to report on the outcomes of Romney's leadership at Bain, but at the same time ignores the results we've seen in Chicago and Illinois after Obama’s time in political leadership in that state.
24 posted on 06/13/2012 7:27:16 AM PDT by RavenATB ("Destroy the family and you destroy the country!" ~Vladimir Lenin)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Gang members killing gang members in a ghetto. What’s the downside? Every one of them that gets killed is one less criminal on the streets, one less criminal we have to support in our prison system, one less criminal to possibly rob or kill you or me, and one less welfare recipient. I ask again what’s the downside? As long as people who don’t live in the ghettos where these “wars” are going on don’t frequent these parts of town who the hell cares if they all kill each other. It’s their choice, so why should anyone throw money at this? It’s a good thing. It should be encouraged.


25 posted on 06/13/2012 7:29:21 AM PDT by bullcricker
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To: ilovesarah2012

This is the Blue world that they want us all to live in.


26 posted on 06/13/2012 8:00:09 AM PDT by denydenydeny (Admiration of absolute government is proportionate to the contempt one has for others.-Tocqueville)
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To: bullcricker

“Gang members killing gang members in a ghetto. What’s the downside? Every one of them that gets killed is one less criminal on the streets, one less criminal we have to support in our prison system, one less criminal to possibly rob or kill you or me, and one less welfare recipient. I ask again what’s the downside? As long as people who don’t live in the ghettos where these “wars” are going on don’t frequent these parts of town who the hell cares if they all kill each other. It’s their choice, so why should anyone throw money at this? It’s a good thing. It should be encouraged.”

Yeah. Well. Except the disease of black flash mob THUGS is moving around to more “profitable” areas. You might want to read Kass’ article linked upthread for more information.


27 posted on 06/13/2012 8:35:51 AM PDT by battletank
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To: ilovesarah2012
The Preezee's hometown overrun with gangstas??

Call Ricky and the Sinolas!

28 posted on 06/13/2012 9:06:57 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: Dr. Ursus

Very good.

In the 50s & 60s, my family lived in Arl Hts (NW Suburbs), we had some family friends who lived near the lakeshore. We’d go snorkeling in Lake Michigan. South side was a no-no, but the rest of the city was safe. We moved in ‘67. All hell broke loose in ‘68 assassination riots.


29 posted on 06/13/2012 9:18:46 AM PDT by carriage_hill (All libs & most dems think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Imagine the rumor that Holder had also been smuggling F&F guns to the Chicago gangs, but of instead of using them for “the revolution”, they are using them against each other.


30 posted on 06/13/2012 9:27:58 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: ilovesarah2012
Gang wars Democrats on the payroll of gangs at the root of Chicago's high murder rate

Fixed.

31 posted on 06/13/2012 11:34:46 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo (Support hate crime laws: Because some victims are more equal than others.)
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To: Thane_Banquo

I believe you are correct. The entire community leadership what it is is corrupt. I don’t think you can absolve the “Reverends” the politicians or the gang leaders they are all one big group of violent fanatics living out some race war fantasy. Small miracle they turn upon other gang members then.


32 posted on 06/13/2012 11:55:12 AM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

The black population in Chicago fell over 16 % in the last census. I bet the vast majority were decent law abiding folks who wanted to work and raise a family. They likely left because they were sick and tired of living in a WAR ZONE, like what is playing out now.


33 posted on 06/13/2012 12:45:23 PM PDT by TMA62 (Al Sharpton - The North Korea of race relations)
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To: battletank

I have read every article about black flash mobs that I can find and if you are mobbed by blacks and don’t drop a few with your concealed or openly carried weapon, then shame on you. I have mine always ready and if you don’t have one, you better get one while you still can. There is absolutely nothing to be ashamed of in firing at a group of flash mobbers with the intent of protecting your life. It’s not even racist if that word means anything to you. Protect yourself white men and women. Don’t expect help from the police.


34 posted on 06/13/2012 1:07:42 PM PDT by bullcricker
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To: TMA62

The black population in Chicago fell over 16 % in the last census. I bet the vast majority were decent law abiding folks who wanted to work and raise a family. They likely left because they were sick and tired of living in a WAR ZONE, like what is playing out now.”

Your thinking sounds like the usual line that liberals would use.

No the factual reason was that Mayor Daley leveled the housing projects and distributed housing vouchers to those people to encourage them to move to the suburbs. The suburbs have been seeing the resulting rise of gangs and drugs along with high black crime.

Did the Destruction of Chicago’s Public Housing Decrease Violent Crime, Or Just Move It Elsewhere?
Posted Apr 5, 2012 at 03:23 PM
By Whet Moser

http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/The-312/April-2012/Did-the-Destruction-of-Chicagos-Public-Housing-Decrease-Violent-Crime-Or-Just-Move-It-Elsewhere/


35 posted on 06/13/2012 1:44:53 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

Chicago will soon join Detroit in becoming a third world city. Once their benefactor is removed from the White House, what other options will the Windy City have to pay for their wasteful spending habits?


36 posted on 06/13/2012 2:05:18 PM PDT by littleharbour
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To: littleharbour

Hey I thought Mayor Daily didn’t want his citizens to have guns> What the Hey...Cordon off the area. Do not let anyone out of the cordoned off zone, furnish them with all of the guns and ammo, they request, and let them have at it.It would be no great loss to anyone, and rid the city of Gangs and Gang Bangers...


37 posted on 06/13/2012 2:29:31 PM PDT by BooBoo1000 ("The plans I have for you are plans to prosper you.,not to harm you, Plans to give you hope)
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To: Lurker
Saw on today's news that two doctors from Northwestn Hospital, located in the Gold Coast neighborhood were attacked by a group of eight or so thugs....the hospital put out a notice to their employees on how to protect themselves. Hit Rahm where it hurts...don't go to the Michigan Avenue area, and don't shop...and tourists should consider cities other than Chicago to visit. It is not safe. There are not enough police to cover the needs of a city this large. Rahm will not hire more cops... he'd rather give the money to his voter base..the gime-gime blacks who always have their hands out for more entitlements. Rahm also turns his back on these thugs when they commit crimes, and ties the hands of the Chicago Police Department to do the kind of police work they were trained to do. And the courts give them light to no sentences and out the door they go. And the thugs feel more empowered to commit more crimes ‘cause obozo, rahm, jesse jackson give them the green light to do so.

That's it in a nutshell in Chicago. Corruption, greed, pandering, all for the damn demo-socialist/communist/marxist vote..

38 posted on 06/13/2012 3:42:08 PM PDT by itssme
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To: ilovesarah2012

See? Obama’s community organizing DID make a difference! How dare you attack his record of accomplishment!


39 posted on 06/13/2012 5:13:52 PM PDT by cookcounty ("We're all born idiots, and we only get over that condition as we get less young." -J Goldberg)
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To: bullcricker

All fine and good. This is the People’s Republic of Chicago, Illinois. The only people with guns are the black flash mobs......and the protectors of our corrupt politicians.


40 posted on 06/13/2012 5:33:13 PM PDT by battletank
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To: ilovesarah2012

Black gangs are nothing new to Chicago. I sat through major Senate hearings on the Black P Stone Rangers in 1970. Lots of clergy gave the gangs the benefit of the doubt, only to be buttfucked by them.

See the Senate Permanent Investigations Subcommittee 25 volume+ hearings, 1970.

Liberals gave the gangs tons of money and cover. Saul Alinsky was in there somewhere. Lots of drug money also involved.

Nothing has changed and will not change until every Democratic politician in Chicago is put in jail or shot, and this includes the significant communist influence there (Don Rose, Rep. Danny Davis, Rep. Bobby Rush, the Chicago Peace Council, Alliance Against Repression, National Lawyers Guild, the Axelrod network, etc).


41 posted on 06/13/2012 8:23:46 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: NEMDF

Yeah, how bout some ingenuous idea like “midnite basketball”?


42 posted on 06/13/2012 9:22:32 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Free the Zimmermans. . . end this political, racist travesty of a "prosecution")
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To: ilovesarah2012

Yet the “solution” will hardly be a “Dirty little secret”

“Representatives” of both the black and Asian “Communities” will eventually call for a summit in which each side will try to come to some sort of “understanding”

The culprits will of course be, white racism, corporations failing to provide “good jobs” and “giving back” lack of government spending for “job training” and so forth.

And naturally, their apologists in the MSM will be there covering all the excuses and not questioning a thing.

Meanwhile, the violence will escalate, and then the cycle will repeat itself in perpetuity.


43 posted on 06/13/2012 9:31:41 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Free the Zimmermans. . . end this political, racist travesty of a "prosecution")
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To: Lurker; sportutegrl; itssme
"Hyde Park, Gold Coast..."   "a crackdown like you won’t believe"

Can you say planned excuse for martial law?

Where gang member bounties would be effective, Rahm/Dim solutions (e.g., paying for unfathered babies) are not meant actually to solve problems, but rather accelerate "reparations" and reinforce Dim political power.

Gang activities are, in effect, being subsidized for political purposes, just as are Holder's non-prosecution of NBPP voter intimidation and anti-voter ID initiatives.

When the government subsidizes something, we inherently get more of that which is subsidized.

HF

44 posted on 06/14/2012 7:52:39 AM PDT by holden
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To: itssme
maybe there's no MONEY for more cops...cops are expensive...so our firemen....ALL public employees are expensive due to excessive pay, benefits and those outrageous pensions....

you can't afford present cops and firemen if the past ones are taking all the money....

we should go back to the days of a sheriff and a volunteer posse....

heck...hire the Guardian Angels to be enforce.

45 posted on 06/14/2012 12:40:42 PM PDT by cherry
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To: TheRightGuy
*** CW2 coming soon to a neighborhood near you. ***

That's why I listen to the CPD Radio calls. My MIL still lives in our old neighborhood. Once nice and middle class, now a below poverty Barrio (98% Mex). So I listen close for the District she's in, the 8th, and the one that borders it, my old area though close was the 9th Dist. [South Kedzie Ave divides the 9th from the 8th]

Ditto for the wife's cousin, he's still in Marqeutte Park, also in the 8th Dist (long story why). A while back at a local Gas Station some punk Homie said to him: Whatcha doin' here white boy (he's well over 50, some 'boy'). And in the past little punks pulled guns on him when he was in his own GD yard. But he's 'stuck'. And his area is all black, a few blocks away West and North its brown, its a mini war zone. (I've told him a gazillion times to GET SOME GINS!)

If the section 8 maggots in my Burb ever get 'itchy' they'll be in a world of hurt. From both our PD and us residents (many many many gun owners).
Village is very firearm friendly.

46 posted on 06/14/2012 1:59:18 PM PDT by Condor51 (Never mess with an old man. He won't fight you he'll just kill you.)
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To: MNDude
The article does not mention whether if they are black, white, Asian, or whatever. I think you may be jumping to conclusions.

LOL! Really? That the article doesn't mention it is the strongest evidence of who they are.

47 posted on 06/14/2012 2:22:38 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Condor51
(I've told him a gazillion times to GET SOME GINS!)

I try to do that nightly, preferably with a little ice, twist of lemon, and a large olive.

48 posted on 06/15/2012 8:22:51 AM PDT by TheRightGuy (I want MY BAILOUT ... a billion or two should do!)
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To: TheRightGuy

“GINS”

LOL. The problem is that the I is next to the U and ‘someone’ keeps moving my keyboard :-)


49 posted on 06/15/2012 9:09:00 AM PDT by Condor51 (Never mess with an old man. He won't fight you he'll just kill you.)
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